|Item Weight||6.25 pounds|
|Package Dimensions||20.8 x 15 x 3.7 inches|
|Item model number||RB-1000|
|Item Package Quantity||1|
GenieBidet Seat - Self Cleaning Dual Nozzles. Rear & Feminine Cleaning - No wiring required. Simple 20-45 minute installation or less. Hybrid T with ON/OFF Included! (ROUND)
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- ✔ Adjustable soft to strong spray (For Round toilets ONLY does not fit "One Piece" French Curve Models).
- ✔ Ambient temperature for refreshing wash.
- ✔ Separate, SELF CLEANING nozzles for feminine and rear cleansing.
- ✔ Modern low profile sleek design & 90º hose for a neat and clean installation.
- ✔ Soft Close Seat & Chromed Brass Hose Fittings. Also includes a Chromed Brass T adapter with ON/OFF Valve.
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|Item Dimensions||—||20 x 22.25 x 6 in||3.35 x 14.37 x 18.7 in||14.25 x 19.75 x 2.4 in||14.25 x 19.75 x 2.4 in||19 x 22 x 6 in|
NOTE: Will not fit Elongated toilets: Ellegantz GenieBidet Seat - Natural Fresh Water Spray - Sleek Style - Toilet Bidet Seat. Non-electric for safety - No wiring required enables simple 30-45 minute installation or less.
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I have included a video that shows how simple this is to install. It really is fast and easy and all I needed was a Phillips head screwdriver. I did end up removing the water regulator because the flow was not strong enough. To do that I just turned the water off, removed the hose from the seat and took out a piece of plastic. The diagram for it is in the instruction book. After removing it the water pressure what correct for what I am used to.
My favorite part is how it snaps on and off in seconds. It will be so much easier to clean now that I can remove it. Also it just looks like a normal toilet seat. It is nice not to have the controller on the side. Plus just about every kid that comes over and uses my restroom comes out soaking wet because they always had to pull the handle. This seat doesn't have that big controller on the side so I'm sure it won't get noticed (or played with) as much.
The seat I removed was very hard and solid and this new seat is much thinner and plastic. I can feel the difference for sure. It feels odd to sit on but I am sure I will get used to it. I do wish it has a more solid seat though. I can live with it because of how easy it is to remove and clean. Compared to my old bidet this one doesn't hit the same spot when I sit down. I believe this is due to the new seat being different and it will just take some getting used to. So far I really like this bidet and have had no leaks or issues. I will update again if anything changes. Feel free to ask me any questions.
Why I returned the Luxe Bidet Neo 110 and ordered the GenieBidet:
First, I will talk about the Luxe Neo 110 which I tried before ordering the GenieBidet. I ordered the Neo 110 after reading the thousands of excellent reviews. The Neo 110, is an under-the-seat add-on bidet that is installed underneath the rear of your current toilet seat. In the short time I had the Neo 110, it appeared to be a quality product. It was made of durable plastic, had excellent water pressure, a metal braided hose, and worked as intended. I was very happy with it after I first installed it. I then realized the inherent problem with the under-the-seat design, and this was enough for me to return it and try the GenieBidet.
The problem with the Luxe Neo 110 design, is that it raises the back of your current toilet seat up, causing the seat to slope downward from back to front. This created a situation where the front of my toilet seat was the only part contacting the toilet bowl, and created a fairly significant gap between the middle of my seat and the underlying bowl. Sitting on my plastic seat would forcefully close this gap by flexing the seat in the middle until this gap was closed. Removing weight from the seat would cause it to flex back into the suspended position. Most of the flexing occurred in the middle, because the front of the seat was always contacting the bowl, and the rear of the seat was attached to the Neo 110 frame. Because of this, I worried the seat would eventually break from these repeated stress cycles. In an effort to correct this issue, I bought rubber toilet bumpers and attached them to the middle of the seat, to fill the gap. This was a partially successful solution, however the bumpers kept falling off, didn't fill the entire gap, and just felt like a very imperfect solution. To address the issue of the bumpers falling off, I considered sanding the bottom of the toilet seat and using epoxy to permanently attach the bumpers, but I eventually gave up and started looking for alternatives. Although the Neo 110 appeared to be a quality product, I just couldn't accept the seat-gap issues, and decided to try the GenieBidet. I would like to see Luxe offer a complete bidet seat design similar to the GenieBidet.
Now that you've read about my experience with an under-the-seat add-on bidet, I will talk about my experience with the GenieBidet Seat. I finished installing it a day ago, so these are my initial observations. I will amend my review later if warranted.
Ellegantz GenieBidet Seat:
The installation of the GenieBidet took me about 45 minutes. I did need to read the instructions. Step one of the instructions makes reference to attaching rubber pieces, but I think they come already attached. I installed it using the "second method" which uses screws on top of the toilet and nuts on the bottom of the toilet to attach what the instructions refer to as the plastic "adapter plate." The adapter plate is the docking station that the seat locks into. There are expansion nuts included which are identified as the "recommended method" of install in the instructions, but I'm not sure if or why using the expansion nuts is better? Anyway, when I screwed down the GenieBidet adapter plate, I was careful to not over-tighten the bolts, as I'm sure it would have been possible to break the plastic adapter plate with enough force.
Attaching the water hose is easy, and it runs from the GenieBidet to an included plastic T-adapter that attaches to the toilet tank fill line. Make sure you use all of the rubber gaskets, or it will leak. The rubber gasket fell out of the bidet side of my hose during shipping. I found it in the bag. I am not currently having any leaks. Also, for good measure, I replaced the old gasket in my fill line with a new one from the hardware store, as my old gasket was deteriorating and I didn't want pieces of it to clog my new bidet. Hopefully the included water screen on the GenieBidet inlet hose would have prevented this though.
GenieBidet Seat Quality:
This product, because it is an entire seat replacement, eliminates the seat slope issue I had with the Neo 110 (described above). There is a very small gap between the rear built in seat bumper of my GenieBidet and my toilet bowl, which I wish wasn't there, as the GenieBidet seat does in fact flex very slightly to close this gap, but let me be clear, this is nothing close to what I described on the Neo 110 above, and I don't think this will cause product failure or seat fracture. I think this "issue" could be corrected by Ellegantz if they made the rear seat bumper slightly longer, but I'm not sure. This small gap is no reason to avoid this product, and I would have never noticed it had I not previously dealt with the seat slope issues on the Luxe Neo 110.
The seat quality itself seems pretty good, and it is surprisingly comfortable, more so than my old cheapo toilet seat. One thing that concerned me before ordering were the reviews that mentioned the seat being slightly too short in the front and leaving a small gap on the front of the toilet. There are photos of this in some of the other reviews. I guess I have this "issue" but let me say if it is too short, it is only by about 1/4 inch (6.35 mm). This does not bother me at all, and I would have never noticed it had I not read about it in the other reviews. It does not appear to create any functional or seat support problems and is not an issue for me. Nobody else would ever notice it.
The GenieBidet looks very nice. It also looks conservative, and doesn't shout bidet. The control lever on the right side is small and reminds me of a second flushing handle. In contrast, the Luxe Neo 110 (different product) is definitely not discreet, having a big control panel protruding from the toilet (which could be bumped). That being said, the control panel on the Neo 110 didn't bother me personally.
So far I am pleased with the GenieBidet's sprayer functions. I did need to increase the water pressure by adjusting the pressure regulator (read your instructions). The GenieBidet, after adjustment still has less maximum pressure than the Neo 110, but this may actually be a good thing, as the water pressure on the GenieBidet is plenty adequate, and the Neo 110 is probably too much pressure for a lot of people on high. Without taking scientific measurements, I'd subjectively say the Genie on high is similar to the Neo 110 on "low" (still quite a bit). The Genie Bidet also has a second sprayer for the the front that the Neo 110 does not have. I have on good authority that this second sprayer makes a big difference and is a must have feature.
Both sprayers on the GenieBidet are located just below the back of the seat where they are well elevated from the toilet bowl water. The Neo 110 sprayer sits lower in the toilet bowl, closer to the toilet water (but not in it). I'm not sure if this makes any real world difference, but I like that the sprayers on the GenieBidet are farther from the toilet bowl water.
Why you don't want hot water on your bidet:
The GenieBidet is cold water only. I was originally concerned about a cold water bidet, but after reading countless reviews, I felt it was the better option. It doesn't feel cold, and the fact that it doesn't require a hot water line (or an electric heater), makes it much simpler to install. If considering a hot water line option, you need to consider how long hot water takes to reach your faucet. Also, consider the potential dangers that hot water can present.
Why you don't want electric on your bidet:
I've never owned one of the thousand dollar electric bidets, but the idea of having electric motors, electric heater(s), an integrated circuit board, and a wireless remote control seems unnecessary to me.
I originally started looking for a bidet because I got tired of spending so much money on toilet paper. Quality toilet paper is quite expensive. Assuming the GenieBidet lasts, it will pay for itself pretty quick in toilet paper savings. If it saves me a dollar a day in toilet paper, that will be a $365.00 return in one year. The ROI (return on investment) is potentially huge. The more household members you have, the greater your potential ROI will be.
Bidets are great for the environment. Don't worry about the water use, manufacturing toilet paper uses more. Manufacturing toilet paper also consumes wood, chemicals, energy, and the petroleum involved in transport. Flushed toilet paper also goes to the waste water treatment plant (or septic tank).
You will never get this clean with toilet paper.
Recommendations to Ellegantz:
1. Look into the small seat gap issue I mentioned
2. Maybe make the seat a tad longer for those that care (as long as this doesn't hurt compatibility)
3. The locking latch that is controlled by the seat release button is plastic and somewhat small, I would like to see something more substantial used, but I'll know more about its durability as time passes. If this little latch breaks, the product is useless. I personally would prefer a seat that doesn't detach at all. I know the detachable seat is a cleaning feature (and it works), but I'd personally prefer if there was an option for a seat that permanently bolted to the toilet without using the risky plastic locking latch.
4. I would also like to see a "luxury" model with
a) metal braided water house
b) metal T-connector
c) brass water connector on the seat, instead of plastic
d) metal control handle
I am giving the GenieBidet the full five stars. I will know more about its long term durability in the months, hopefully years to come. I am concerned that the seat mounting system may be the product's future point of failure, but it is working great so far. I personally want the option for a super heavy duty permanently mounted seat that doesn't detach. If I encounter any issues with my mount breaking, I will update my review, and I hope my concerns are unfounded.
Finally, I will never buy an under-the-seat add-on (Luxe Neo 110) again. I do believe the Luxe Neo 110 is a quality product for what it is, but I'm very happy to have eliminated the inherent problems of the under-the-seat design by going to a full seat replacement (GenieBidet). I would like to see more companies produce an affordable cold water, non-electric, full seat replacement similar to the GenieBidet. Are you listening Luxe?
One Year Update:
I have now had the GenieBidet Seat an entire year. As promised, I will update my initial thoughts. Let me start by saying that this is one of the absolute best things I have EVER purchased. It is definitely worth the $80.00 they are currently charging for it, and I think that is a fair price.
Quality-1yr: The quality is very good for the price. It still feels sturdy, and I have not had a single issue with it during my year of ownership. I believe the synthetic water hose and plastic t-connector have proven themselves, and now wonder if the "metal braided hose and metal t-connector" offered by other brands are actually of any benefit to the buyer, or are simply marketing hype. Regardless, I have had no leaks and no problems of any kind from the product, and no longer feel a "luxury model" is desirable. In my earlier review, I also said that I wanted a non-detachable seat, because I was worried that the small plastic "mounting hook" that locks the seat to the base might break. This still worries me a little bit, and I am careful to not stress the hook. However, I have not had any problems with it breaking over the last year, and I will admit being able to detach the seat is in fact extremely helpful for cleaning (which is why they designed it this way). I have also not had any problems with the sprayers deploying from their retracted position, which is something I thought might happen after repeated cycling. Overall, for the price, I give this a quality rating of 5/5. I would still like the mounting hook to be beefed up, but unless there are people having hook failure, I don't guess it's a problem, because it hasn't failed me after a year. As long as the product continues to last several more years without breaking, I will consider it a very reasonable quality to price compromise. Finally, the very minor "seat gap" on this product does not bother me at all or cause me any problems, and I didn't expect it to. It simply isn't a problem like it is on the "under seat" attachments from other manufactures.
Economics-1yr: The GenieBidet has substantially reduced toilet paper use. I estimate a 90% reduction, and this has saved me a lot of money, plus been beneficial to the environment. Although I have not kept track of the numbers, I would not be surprised if I have saved more money on toiler paper over the last year than the GenieBidet cost, giving me a positive ROI (return on investment). I also no longer buy the expensive premium toilet paper, and I instead buy the cheapest paper I can find. After a year, I do genuinely consider this product to have been a legitimate and profitable "investment."
Thoughts on non-electric-1yr:
I did not find the cold water to be a real problem, even on the coldest of winter days. I don't have to worry about electric motor failure, wireless remote failure, heater coil failure, computer failure, or any other such thing. The GenieBidet also worked fine during a power outage, as it should, since it uses no power at all.
Again, this is one of the best products that I have ever bought. I believe it has also been unique in that I have not found similar products in this price range sold by other companies. I really want to see other companies also offer products like this, because it would drive the market and ultimately benefit the consumer. This is something that every household should have, and after owning one for a year, I don't understand why the adoption rate is so low in my part of the world. If you are torn between the GenieBidet and an "under-seat attachment" like the Luxe Bidet Neo 110, I believe you will be much happier with the GenieBidet. I know I am.
PS: Don't buy the rubber bumpers that Amazon is suggesting you purchase with the GenieBidet Seat. They are not needed for whole seat replacements like GenieBidet.
Two Year Update: Still working great. Not a single problem in two years. One of my best purchases ever. Has saved me lots of money on toilet paper. I see Ellegantz is now also offering an under-the-seat type bidet. I haven't tried it, but I still believe the whole-seat-replacement is a much better design concept.