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"Captivating. A strong amalgam of nostalgia, feminist history, astute insight, beautiful music and irresistible gossip. Weller's grand ambition winds up fulfilled." -- Janet Maslin, The New York Times

"Let's get one thing clear right from the start -- this is a fabulous book...Girls like Us unfolds with drama and panoramic detail. Written with a keen journalistic and, more importantly, female eye, [it] works as a healthy, long overdue counterweight to the endlessly repeated, male-sided version of rock 'n roll. Before these women broke the cultural sod during the rock 'n roll years, there were no girls like us. Now there are millions." -- Caitlin Moran, London Sunday Times

"Even at 500-plus pages, the book goes down as easy as a Grisham yarn on a vacation flight... The only flaw to Girls Like Us is that it comes to an end. Few people lead lives as action-packed and spiritually opulent as Carole King, Joni Mitchell and Carly Simon did during such intensely interesting times. And few writers are able to impart so much freight with such vigor. The towering triumvirate got what it deserves." -- The Toronto Sun

"A page-turner of the first order....a must read." -- The Boston Globe

"As an avid music reader, sometime reviewer, and teen of the '60s myself, I was sure I knew just about everything there was to know about Carole, Joni, and Carly.... But Girls Like Us, an ambitious collective biography by six-time author and magazine journalist Sheila Weller, showed me exactly how much I didn't know. This absorbing, well-reported book chronicles a time when women in all walks of life were exercising new-found freedom. And as icons of that era, nobody did it better." -- Christian Science Monitor

"Both scholarly and dishy. A superb journalist, Weller has managed to uncover a trove of unreported facts on her subjects." -- People **** (Pick of the Week)

"When we were little, and someone said, `I love chocolate pudding," there was always some nutball who'd ask, "Do you want to marry it?' Well, I love Sheila Weller's Girls Like Us so much that I would marry it. This lush, beautifully-researched and lyrically written biography of the three women whose music was emblematic of the generation who pioneered the way for me and so many others is literate, bold, charming and ... cuddly....[E]very page brought a fresh surprise. Weller raised the bar for this book above even a classy celebrity bio... This book probably gave me more pure enjoyment than any but a handful I've read in years. If you're passionate about music -- and about passion -- you'll have to hand it to Sheila Weller for a bravura composition of her own." --Jacquelyn Mitchard the bestselling author of Still Summer, Cage of Stars, and the first Oprah Book Club selection, The Deep End of the Ocean, on WritersAsReaders.com

"Incisive, painstakingly researched...Any woman who grew up during the late 1960s and '70s will fall head over heels for Sheila Weller's Girls Like Us." -- Ladies Home Journal

"A sharp-eyed vision of the worlds which nourished these ambitious, determined and singular artists...Weller digs deep into [Joni Mitchell's] complex psychology and provides as close to an understanding of this difficult figure as anyone is likely to ever offer. An unfailingly entertaining read...a riveting story." -- Mojo

"Juicy... I doubt I'll listen to Mitchell's songs again without considering the child she gave up for adoption... and her subsequent bouts with depression or hear the oft-married King's music without thinking of her tumultuous relationships. As for Simon, Weller captures fully both the richness and glamour of her romantic life and the profound sensitivity that made her especially vulnerable to ex-husband James Taylor's drug abuse and the cavalier charm of Warren Beatty." - USA Today

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Sheila Weller is a New York Times bestselling author and award-winning magazine journalist. She is the author of five previous books, most recently her 2003 family memoir, Dancing at Ciro's, which The Washington Post called "a substantial contribution to American social history." She is the senior contributing editor at Glamour, a contributor to Vanity Fair, and a former contributing editor of New York. To learn more, visit www.girlslikeusthebook.com.

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Dimensions ‏ : ‎ 6.12 x 1.7 x 9.25 inches

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Sheila Weller is a best-selling author and award-winning magazine journalist specializing in women’s lives, social issues, cultural history, and feminist investigative.

Her latest book, "The News Sorority: Diane Sawyer, Katie Couric, Christiane Amanpour – and the Triumph of Women in TV News," is a lively and detailed story of three very particular lives and a testament to the extraordinary character of women everywhere.

Her sixth book was the critically acclaimed "Girls Like Us: Carole King, Joni Mitchell, Carly Simon -- And The Journey of a Generation." On the New York Times Bestseller list for 8 weeks, it has sold over 170,000 copies, is featured in numerous Women’s Studies programs at major universities, and was chosen as one of the Best Books of 2008 by Library Journal, The Christian Science Monitor, Amazon.com, and Tina Brown’s DailyBeast.

Her previous books, including the New York Times bestseller "Raging Heart," have included well-regarded, news-breaking nonfiction accounts of high profile crimes against women and their social and legal implications.

She is a writer for Vanity Fair, a Senior Contributing Editor for Glamour, a former Contributing Editor for New York, a reviewer for The New York Times, and has written and writes for numerous other magazines.

She has won nine major magazine awards, including six Newswomen’s Club of New York Front Page Awards and two Exceptional Merit in Media Awards from The National Women’s Political Caucus, and she was one of three winners, for her body of work, for Magazine Feature Writing on a Variety of Subjects in the 2005 National Headliners Award.

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While this book addresses three different musician/songwriters, the chapter layout is definitely "different". I imagine the author's concept was to "intertwine" the stories of the three women vs. dividing the book into 3 distinct parts (one part for each of the women) While that "sort of" works, it DOES make the book a bit more "confusing".

I WAS very disappointed at some of the "gossip magazine" style entries, including unsubstantiated "stories" told by those that supposedly "knew" the musician in childhood/youth or other aspects of life etc.

With those things in mind, the book is an "interesting read", and it "MIGHT" provide some new/different insights vs. other interviews, stories and books. I would certainly not consider it to be a "definitive" study on any of these 3 amazing women, NOR would I consider anything in it to be "factual" without substantiation from some other (and fully reputable) sources.

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Girls Like Us: Carole King, Joni Mitchell, Carly Simon, and the Journey of a Generation
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I rarely read celebrity bio's, but this one was irresistible. I'm a long-time Joni Mitchell worshipper--you know, one of those women who hung on her every word to find out what was really happening deep within my psyche. It began with her first album and the song "Marcie" -the spelling's different, but the sentiments, even "Marcie's" circumstances, rang uncannily true. This went on year after year, decade after decade, with a hiatus between Hejira and Wild Things Run Fast, during which Joni experimented with jazz and other musical styles, letting the personal lyrics get lost in the mix. At first I was a little put off by Weller's categorizing these musicians together: Joni Mitchell is far and away the best of the trio--the best of her generation, right up there with Bob Dylan and the Beatles. In terms of Weller's book, however, and the sociological point she's making, it doesn't matter: Carly and Carole have had at least as strong of a cultural influence.

Pre-Joni, Carole King's songs provided the backdrop to my furtive groping in cars--only I didn't know they were Carole King's, since they were sung by The Shirelles, The Drifters, and every other doo-wop group played by Alan Freed and Murray the K. And "That's the Way I Always Heard It Should Be," Carly Simon's profound anti-marriage ballad, hit the airwaves at the exact moment that I was struggling to break free of my marriage and suburbia. Thus, when I saw Girls Like Us, connecting these three as representative of my generation of women, I was blown away.

Ditto when I read that King's "Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow?" was about a girl puttin' out for her boyfriend, hoping he'd still respect her in the morning. I was thirteen when that song came out, still a few years from catching its real meaning, and during all this time it never once dawned on me. This was just one of many delicious tidbits I learned about the lyrics I've been hearing and singing all my life. Even juicier is all the dish on these women's relationships, and the incestuousness of their interactions with others in the music world. You'd have to call it celebrity gossip, and I'm as guilty as anyone of eating it up. In my defense, these women, the men who surrounded them, their music, and their lives have been crucially important-- to me and to a generation. They've accompanied me on my life's journey, from 45's, LP's, tapes, and disks, right up to my iPod. The dish in this book is more than just dish: reading it deepened and enriched my appreciation of the music.

James Taylor plays almost as big a role in this book as the women: he was romantically involved with all three, while they themselves barely know one another. As Weller says, "the tortured boy was the only one worth having," and man, was JT tortured. He only got off heroin for good in the eighties, and I'm sorry to have discovered that he wasn't as nice a guy as his high-minded lyrics might suggest. He was cold, emotionally withholding, barely present as a father (of Carly's kids) and even, on occasion, downright cruel. But hell, the guy was a dyed-in-the-wool junkie who only got off the stuff after divorcing Carly, a point the author deems significant--but he was a junkie for years before they even met.

The "You're So Vain" mystery is settled once and for all: its subject is neither Warren Beatty nor Mick Jagger, but a composite of several men that Carly slept with during a particularly busy season. I was going to say "promiscuous" rather than "busy," but it would ring false in the context of the book and the era it chronicles. These women slept with the best and the brightest, some of them, like JT, overlapping, especially between Carly and Joni. By contrast, the girl who worried musically if respect flew out the window once she gave it away, married half the men she took to bed, starting at seventeen with Gerry Goffin, her first and perhaps most prolific writing partner, ultimately racking up four or five husbands. (I lost track. Also, these ladies, now well into their sixties, are still doin' it. Rebels and role models to the death.)

That's one of Weller's points--that King, Mitchell, and Simon were products of their time, as well as role models who led the way for the rest of us. In the sexual arena, sure--but more significantly, by wanting, and pursuing, their own ambitions, and paying the cost as the first generation of women to stare down the conflicts inherent in female rebellion. For Joni, the cost was high: she suffered long and deeply for giving up her daughter ("Little Green"), with whom she is now reconciled. For Carly, a hopeless romantic who read Anna Karenina ten times, the cost came in her relationship with James Taylor, an all-consuming obsession that drained and devoured her. Carole was the most out of control; she married men with whom she felt she had to minimize her accomplishments, diminishing herself to keep their fragile egos intact (these Peter Pan creatures continually failed despite her sacrifices; one husband even killed himself.)

Was the cost worth it? Were Joni's years of guilt, the loss of so many years with her daughter worth it for Blue? Was Carole's abuse at the hands of men a small price to pay for Tapestry? Was Carly's bleeding heart no big thing in view of "Life is Eternal," "You're so Vain" and dozens of other hit songs? Easy for me to say it was. I owe these gals a great big thank you. Also thank you Sheila Weller for your book. My gratitude is vast.
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Everything in GIRLS LIKE US will be amazingly familiar to those of us born in the bay boom, and yet Sheila Weller, a talented if erratic prose stylist, brings us to emotional places that will be new to all but those most intimate with the trio of songwriters whose lives, she declares, form a "journey of a generation." I don't know if I'd go that far, but I'm not a woman, and Weller's argument is that King, Simon, and Mitchell pushes back the barriers for women specifically, "one song at a time."

The cryptic one remains Carole King, whom Weller just can't illuminate in any meaningful way. Her life was amazing--up to a point, then it stopped being of any interest at all, which is a shame. We hear again and again how she wrote all those Brill Building masterpieces before she was 21, and broke down under the strain of a troubled marriage to a high-stakes husband and lyricist, Gerry Goffin, coming out the other end with an LP. Tapestry, that everyone loved. Then what happened? Bad men galore, attracted to her wealth. She once estimated that every time she divorced a man, it cost her a million dollars. Weller gives us all the facts ad nauseam but we always wonder, why did King do this to herself?

Carly Simon, on the other hand, who cooperated with Weller extensively or so it seems, comes off as nearly normal. Of the upper, upper middle class, Simon was to the manor born and the icy, plangent chords of her first song, "That's the Way I Always Heard It Should Be," gave notice that the old New Yorker fiction writers of the 40s and 50s hadn't died, they had just rolled over and told Carly Simon the news. Though obviously spoiled and cosseted by her own wealth, Simon doesn't seem spoiled; her reactions throughout, even meeting and marrying the drug-zombie James Taylor, are always understandable and sympathetic.

Joni Mitchell isn't sympathetic per se, but she has the integrated personality of the genius totally in love with herself and obsessed with her own reflection, so she's great in a special way. Weller pokes amused fun at Mitchell's vanity and enormous self-esteem, but we get the picture that, in her opinion at any rate, Mitchell actually is pretty f--ing amazing. Does our society have it in for women who want to be artists? Mitchell's encounter with the aged, reclusive Georgia O'Keeffe seems like a emblem of a certain baton-passing, as is Carly Simon's relationship with former First Lady Jackie Kennedy. Weller is OK about male-female relationships, but in this book at any rate she's more interested in the ways women deal with each other.

It's nearly a biography of five people, not just three, as there is so much about James Taylor you will never need to read another word about him if you have this book on your shelf; and for some reason there's tons of material about Judy Collins. I wonder if Weller proposed a book with King, Mitchell, Simon, and Collins, and some editorial board nixed the addition of Collins--but there was so much good material about Collins, Weller kept it in anyhow. She is the Vanity Fair writer supreme, whose motto is that no sentence is complete without some action and punch, and the best way to get that is to string along many words with hyphens to invent new forms of adjectival excitement. You won't be able to read for more than a few minutes without being hit on the head by Weller's mad stylings--here's a typical hyphenfilled sentence about the Eagles: "Their at-home-in-Death-Valley image and bleating-lost-boy-in-expensive-boots sound had become era-definingly successful." (Ten hyphens in a mere 20 words! Sheila Weller is era-definingly successful at inventing a new form of writing--like the classic circus act when a small VW would pull up to center ring and then clown after clown would prance out. Then more clowns--then still more. She's pretty amazing and GIRLS LIKE US is a book that, for all its flaws, convinces us roundly in its larger arguments and dazzles with its wide-ranging portraits of artistic life in the 50s, 60s and 70s.

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Looking forward to reading these. Bought because I love all three of these brilliant singers.

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Scott A. Anderson

Sisters are doing it for themselves

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A very entertaining and sophisticated bio of three women who blazed trails through the music industry. By putting King, Mitchell, and Simon in apposition, you get a snapshot of the times and the music industry. But it's the storytelling that keeps a reader enthralled. Lives more dramatic than even their music. Three fierce, uncompromising women who strove to do it their way. Elegant prose.

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the author appeared to have considerable access to close friends or family in order to provide readers with in depth details abo

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Interesting series of biographies; the author appeared to have considerable access to close friends or family in order to provide readers with in depth details about the private lives of these amazing women. There was a dizzying amount of information about who slept with who; sometimes such details appeared to impact on the resulting music but other times, no..it was spurious and the wording made it sound unnecessarily smutty. Attending concerts by all of these fabulous muscians was/is on my bucket list, but don't expect to be able to do that now...

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Great subject matter done badly.

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I was disappointed. I feel it's badly written. Goes oif on tangents & really seems to ramble.

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Barbara Scorcia

Super interessante

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Per chi vuole saperne un po' di piu' sulla beat generation questo libro è molto utile. Inoltre parla di tre donne interessantissime e per me importantissime nella storia della musica e della cultura pop. Ci sono dei momenti che scade un po nel gossip, pero' da' sia uno sguardo di insieme e va anche nel dettaglio di singole canzoni, descrivendo quando e perchè sono state scritte. Per me un viaggio in un mondo sconosciuto e affascinante.

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