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  • Hardcover: 224 pages
  • Publisher: Convergent Books (April 22, 2014)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 1601425163
  • ISBN-13: 978-1601425164
  • Product Dimensions: 5.7 x 0.8 x 8.5 inches
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  • Average Customer Review: 4.2 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (414 customer reviews)
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5.0 out of 5 starsIf you're a Christian with an opinion on gay marriage, you need to read this book
By Tom Braun on July 2, 2015
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As controversy has swirled in the wake of the Supreme Court's decision upholding gay marriage I wondered if anyone had managed to write a rigorous, Biblically-grounded defense of gay marriage. The answer is: yes, this book is it, and boy is it a doozy.

For author Matthew Vines, the issue is personal: he was raised in a loving, Christian, Bible-believing home, but realized when he was 19 that he was gay. What to do? After coming out to his dad, the two of them began an in-depth reexamination of scripture that would ultimately change both their minds on the subject.

If you've studied what the Bible has to say on the topic of homosexuality at all you probably know two things: one, 'homosexuality' is not a word in either ancient Hebrew or Greek and indeed not something they had a cultural concept for (relevant Biblical passages tend to relate to specific acts); and two, there are six 'clobber passages' strewn across the Old and New Testament which have generally been used to show that the Bible comprehensively condemns gay sexuality.

Vines of course digs into those six passages, but before he does so he spends several chapters laying some important conceptual groundwork. He examines the tools scripture gives us to judge whether a doctrine is good or bad, he delves into the history of the church changing its mind when presented with new information, and then he presents some new information: to wit, the church has only known about sexual orientations for about 200 years.

What follows is one of the most fascinating parts of the book, an examination of the framework within which ancient peoples actually understood homosexual practices. It was a radically different one than we have today.Read more ›
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3.0 out of 5 starsNot as convincing as advertised
By James Pyles on May 12, 2014
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Matthew Vines is an Evangelical Christian who is seeking to not only establish that the Bible does not actively condemn loving, monogamous, homosexual relationships, but actually supports them, and he’s going to try and do that using a high view of the Bible.

I’ve seen other resources, primarily online, from various progressive churches that are inclusive of the LGBTQ community by taking a low view of the Bible, that is, by not accepting that the Bible is inerrant and ultimately the authoritative Word of God. It’s more of a set of “guidelines” and therefore, the sections of the Bible condemning homosexual behavior are not to be taken literally or, they were social norms that were once valid in ancient societies but have no application in the modern world of faith.

Vines, by contrast, embraces the full authority of the Bible but believes it has been misinterpreted and misapplied, resulting in the Evangelical Church’s long condemnation of homosexual behavior and of gay people, including the gay Christians in their (our) midst.

Dirst, let’s take a look at the reasons Vines believes Evangelicals should re-evaluate how they read the Bible relative to LGBT Christians:

1. First, we saw that a categorical rejection of same-sex relationships has been deeply damaging to gay Christians.

2. …we saw that the concept of same-sex orientation did not exist in the ancient world. Prior to recent generations, same-sex behavior was widely understood to be the product of sexual excess, not the expression of sexual orientation.

3. …the church has an established tradition affirming that lifelong celibacy should be voluntarily chosen, not mandated. Maintaining a condemnation of same-sex relationships would require us to revise that teaching.Read more ›
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5.0 out of 5 starsA must-read for modern times
By JustReading2008 on October 29, 2014
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Regardless of your own personal feelings about gay marriage, you can't help but agree that the Church's position on homosexuality has alienated droves of people, gay and straight alike. Having been raised in a conservative area of Florida, this is something I have struggled with since high school. When I was in college, I met both gay and straight people that were driven completely away from Christianity and anything to do with God, out of hurt and/or anger. I also met people that were gay Christians. One even said to me, "I know that this is a sin, but it's not worse than anyone else's sin."

The fact that so many churches have said, "You can be gay OR Christian but not both" has never sat well with me. We all have sins we struggle with, whether its pride or greed or whatever. So why was homosexuality singled out? That was my first red flag. My next red flag was that I could understand Biblical prohibitions against other sins (such as greed, adultery, etc.), but didn't understand why God would prohibit a loving relationship between two consenting adults just because they happened to be the same sex.

This is where Matthew Vines comes in and explains the historical reasoning for the Bible's apparent condemnation of same-sex behavior. For example, the practice of pederastry, a sexual relationship between an adult man and a pre-pubescent boy, is inherently wrong for obvious reasons. Men raping other men to assert dominance -- clearly wrong. The verses in the Bible speak to specific things that were happening in the culture at the time. Additionally, the idea of sexual orientation didn't even exist back then. No one was "gay" or "straight." People were just people that happened to engage in sexual activity.Read more ›
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1.0 out of 5 starsAn Intricately-Argued Rationale of Sin

Vines uses the same old arguments (the Old Testament doesn't apply to Christians, Paul wasn't talking about monogamous gays, etc.) and wraps them in new paper. Read more

Published 3 hours ago by Kristi Shepherd
5.0 out of 5 starsAn exhaustively researched and vetted book that should not be...

It would be easy to dismiss this book as "a gay man trying to justify his lifestyle." But it's pretty clear that's not the case with this book. Read more

Published 5 hours ago by NLeigh
3.0 out of 5 starsGood Read Needs More

This book is well written and researched by Matthew Vines. Having been involved in this discussion since the late 1980s it is clear that a greater emphasis on engaging the Biblical... Read more

Published 21 days ago by Ron Clark
5.0 out of 5 starsWell=written

A really good book for those struggling with biblical principles surrounding homosexuality and what the bible really says about it.

Published 22 days ago by L. Sackman
5.0 out of 5 starsA good explanation of the circumstances under which passages in the...

A good explanation of the circumstances under which passages in the Bible were written. It is eye opening to understand that submissiveness in homosexuality was viewed as weakness... Read more

Published 23 days ago by MK
4.0 out of 5 starsGreat perspective offered in a respectful way

Great perspective offered in a respectful way. Definitely worth the read for anyone struggling to understand homosexuality from a Christian perspective, and to see how an affirming... Read more

Published 1 month ago by Amazon Customer
5.0 out of 5 starsVery argumentivly compelling! A must-read!

Pretty good arguments, considering its one of the very first (if not the first) to take this stance on Christianity and homosexuals. Very smooth read too, definitely recommend! Read more

Published 1 month ago by Chety
5.0 out of 5 starsSo grateful for this book!

I've been waiting my whole life to read everything that was in this book and I've been talking about it nonstop with my family and friends. Read more

Published 1 month ago by John Thomas Cecil
5.0 out of 5 starsFive Stars

So timely, such a necessary voice in Christianity.

Published 1 month ago by Amazon Customer
5.0 out of 5 starsAnother way of looking at things

Interesting book and easy read. Matthew gives us many things to consider in regard to the Bible and the subject of being gay. Read more

Published 1 month ago by Michael Donahoe

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