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Great... another double dip.


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Initial post: Nov 3, 2008, 3:09:52 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 25, 2008, 3:00:47 AM PST
Not only is this yet *another* double dip Bond release, but it's apparently the first Blu-ray double dip as well! They could have put all these features on the release the first time around (*especially* considering that the standard DVD was already bloated to a 2-disc set). If you are a fan, chances are you own this already. I'm tired of loyal followers of films getting screwed every time they make a purchase, not knowing if a re-re-re-release is around the corner. We have to do internet research before buying anything anymore-- quite ridiculous.

And if there is indeed an "unrated international cut" of Casino Royale, and that version is NOT being released with this greedy dip #2, it's even more of an insult. And if someone says, "Well you don't have to buy it!", I am going to scream. That's not the point. I *already* bought it. I am a Bond fan. I would like all the stinking features, instead of only getting a smattering of content and then see a THREE-disc re-release. When will this madness end? Why should anyone have to put up with this? How many movies (and now, sadly, TV shows) have to be put out multiple times so a fan must either wait indefinitely, or purchase the film they love only to be slapped by the studio again with another version? Ultimate Edition. Collector's Edition. How about Fed-Up Edition? I know the reason it's done is "because they can"-- doesn't make it any less crummy of a routine. And it unfortunately now has become a routine.

And how many times can the Bond films be repackaged? They were rereleased again in 2-disc editions [only in shrewdly mixed actor box sets, Connery + Brosnan together, how cute], and now *those* are coming out separately, with different (and even poorer) cover designs. Put out the freaking "Ultimate Once and For All Editions", and use the great Bond poster art instead.

And if the marketing strategy of this is to include "Movie Money" (which rarely covers the whole cost of a movie ticket anyway), I already bought the movie, so give me the movie money. I've spent a lot of money on movies and have seen countless DVD's that I've purchased be repackaged, rereleased, rehashed, added to, subtracted from (i.e. the new version doesn't contain quite all the features from the previous one, yay)-- I don't think it's out of line to be angered by these practices.

With the ongoing Bond re-releases and repackagings (with the 2-disc box set editions now coming out as individual releases), can a triple-dip be that far behind? Maybe "Casino Royale: The Texas Hold-'Em Edition"!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 13, 2008, 3:11:33 AM PST
AMP says:
I'd hope the "Texas Hold-Em Edition" comes with playing cards and that rumored international cut.

Wait, what am I saying? I don't want to buy this again. You're right, this marketing strategy sucks!

Posted on Mar 25, 2009, 5:58:48 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Mar 25, 2009, 5:59:56 PM PDT
AH-1Z says:
Remember, they're in the business to make money. As long as people keep going for it, they'll keep doing it.

P.S. The Audio/video quality of the Ultimate Editions was much better than what was released before, so they have to cover the cost of those restorations

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 6, 2009, 1:30:28 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 6, 2009, 1:37:31 PM PDT
Maverick says:
It's not a "restoration" at all - it's simply not compressing the film down so as to allow for multiple special features, including audio tracks. The DVD that they're using is 8.5gb at most. The more special features crammed onto that single-disc edition, the more that the film has to be compressed to allow for the special features. The Ultimate Editions didn't have better sound and video quality because of any "remastering;" they had better sound and video quality simply because that sound and video weren't compressed as harshly as in previous editions.

This theory is also at the heart of Blu-Ray (and HD-DVD). The films have to be "dumbed down" (compressed) to fit on DVD. Period. If it's on DVD, it's been compressed down - the various editions (usually) infer how much they've been compressed down to fit on that DVD. With the high-definition formats, the storage space is available to virtually eliminate that audio/video compression, and we the public finally get a "master" copy similar to what is distributed to theaters, etc, albeit in a different medium. Does this mean that ALL Blu-Ray and HD-DVD releases are uncompressed? Probably not. Especially those single-disc releases that now give us 20+ hours of "special features." But it IS safe to say that every Blu-Ray and HD-DVD release is LESS compressed than their DVD counterparts, and is therefore at least marginally better. My rule of thumb? If it's only a few bucks' difference between the high-def format and DVD, I get the high-def. Otherwise, my upconverting Blu-Ray player does a great job of making regular DVDs look better. And since my sound system is only a 5.1, then the extra sound quality of a Blu-Ray makes little difference to me.

Posted on Apr 12, 2009, 9:50:14 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 12, 2009, 9:53:00 PM PDT
M. Gaudet says:
Buddy your completely wrong they spent millions of dollars to have lowry digital restore the films from their original camera negatives. There is a big difference between that and the special edition releases which used the same video masters they used for the laserdiscs years ago albeit in anamorphic form. They restored every film except the non canon bonds the comedy version of casino royale, the tv version in black in white or never say never again. The only bonds not restored from the Ion series were casino royale and quantum of solace.
Not all the dvd ultimate editions are perfect however, there are different color choices than originally theatrical released, and they misscropped goldeneye which will hopefully be fixed on the delayed blu ray release.

Until they put out another real 007 adventure in theaters i am not buying. This Jason Borne Lite nonsense has to end. Even Craig thinks they need q and money penny, the gadgets and some humor in the next film to lighten things up.

Posted on Sep 6, 2015, 2:01:18 PM PDT
E. H. says:
I have been waiting for the right price point to purchase 'Casino Royale' - I already own 'Quantum of Solace' (for better or worse) and 'Skyfall' (tremendous).

That said, for those who own one of the many versions of the Casino Royale blu-ray, which one is recommended?

many thanks

Casino Royale [Blu-ray + DHD]
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