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Index of Chapter Titles
  • Chapter 1 Summary Argument
  • Chapter 2 Jesus, Messiah of Levi
  • Chapter 3 Luke's Genealogy
  • Chapter 4 Mary the Mother of Jesus (Mariamne bat Antigonus)
  • Chapter 5 Mary Magdalene (Mariamne bat Aristobulus)
  • Chapter 6 Crucifixion of Jesus
  • Chapter 7 Paul of Tarsus (Phasaelus ben Timius)
  • Chapter 8 The Jesus Movement, Origins and Theology
  • Chapter 9 Antipater ben Herod (Father of Jesus)
  • Chapter 10 Josephus, Jewish Traitor
  • Chapter 11 Paul, Speculative Theories

About the Author

Joseph Raymond was raised in a devout Roman Catholic family in St. Louis, MO USA and educated in Catholic schools. He received degrees from two Jesuit universities graduating law school in 1986. Thereafter, he served as a Department of Justice lawyer in Washington, DC but later left the practice of law to found an internet company. In 1988, he began a spiritual journey of study and reflection largely focused upon the origins of Christianity. Once started, the journey is never complete.  In January of 2012, Joseph Raymond gave an on-camera interview in Los Angeles with Karga Seven Pictures regarding theories contained in Herodian Messiah for a documentary on the Discovery Channel called "Jesus Conspiracies".  I appeared in episodes 1 and 3 of the series.
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Product Details

  • Paperback: 278 pages
  • Publisher: Tower Grove Publishing (February 14, 2010)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0615355080
  • ISBN-13: 978-0615355085
  • Product Dimensions: 6 x 0.6 x 9 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1.1 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.1 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (16 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1,865,224 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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Herodian Messiah is one of the most fascinating books I've ever read.

The story of Jesus, or at least that of his family, is vitally important to our understanding of the modern world, especially the tensions among the three religions at the heart of today's conflicts. This is a key point of understanding: that the life of Christ is central to understanding politics and power discourse in Western history. He is important as narrative certainly, but more invisibly his life is important because of little understood connections to the development of Imperial Rome at its brith. Jesus' family was instrumental in developing events leading to the The Great Revolt, and the effects of that war still resonate today in important yet unseen ways. Its importance translates into the shaping of the moral outlook of a significant piece of the world's population. The better we understnd who Jesus was, the more likely we are to deal intelligently with our global political realities. Raymond's Herodian Messiah is one of the most insightful contributions there is in aiding this understanding. Historians and Biblical scholars concerned with tradition, people like Bart Ehrman, Robert Eisenman, Elaine Pagels, James Tabor, and Robin Lane Fox, to name a few, are controversial precisely because they investigate the impact of altered power discourses on modern society, and they attempt to answer where so many refuse to question. Raymond's book is a very important contribtuion to this body of work that attempts to answer the riddles of our discursive heritage. Because he draws out conclusions from meticulously compiled evidence, Raymond is able to venture where few others have been able to do so. His training as a lawyer has equipped him with the tools (and the attention to detail) that others perhaps lack.
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I found this book while doing research on the genealogies of Christ, as written in Matthew and Luke's gospels. It gave me an entirely different feel for the era, and a new insight into the life and time of Christ.
Even among Bible scholars, these two genealogies are not only difficult to reconcile, but 36 out of the 45 names listed in Luke's genealogy of Christ are unaccounted for in the Old Testament.
In "Herodian Messiah," the author introduces the concept that perhaps 5 of the names listed in Luke actually point to the Hasmonean Dynasty. He then brings to light all of the intrigue surrounding the politics of Rome and the Kingdom of Judea, including the historic religious and social upheavals, leading up to and converging at the time of Christ.
As the Hasmonean Dynasty gave way to the Herodian Dynasty, it may very well be that the last Hasmonean Princess (the daughter of Matattayah Antigonus) gave birth to a son, who was Jesus the Christ.
While we tend to focus our attention on his future role as "King of Kings"(at his second coming) the Hebrews of his day once welcomed him into Jerusalem crying out;

Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord. John 12:13

There is more to this story than you know.
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This is a fascinating book. If you're at all interested in the facts behind Christian canon (and mythology), you will find them here in abundance. Terrifically researched, dense but digestible, iconoclastic without irreverence, Herodian Messiah challenges you to think critically about the factual basis of ancient scriptures. This is not a book about faith, it's a book about fact, with some very interesting theories to fill gaps left in the contemporary record. Highly recommended, just be sure to read it with an open mind.
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TO BE Honest i'm not Really religious & Not at all an Atheist ! even though i was once a Roman Catholic. But I was always seeking the true story of a Man born of a women named Yeshua Ben Yoseph aka Jesus the Christ . Ever since i was a young child and attended Catholic schools i always had Doubts that Christian Story of Jesus was True. and had the feeling that Jesus was a Fable with no Real Family History. Its really a shame the church has covered up and twisted the life of a Man who only wanted people respect eachother . Help and love our fellow man. and do no harm to anyone. & What he also wanted was his Kingdom that was his Birth Right as a King after all he was of Royal Blood throught his Mother Mary --aka Mariamne Bat Antigonus Her Father was King Antigonus . Mariamne was first married to Antipater Herod who was a son of King Herod. Jesus True Earthly Father. Jesus real Family name was Antigonus Ben Antipater . & Jesus was the Great Grandson of King Herod. This book is a real eye opener of what the World should know But has been Suppressed By Corrupt Religious Christian Leaders. Jesus was a King not a Man Created God ! he was Human as the New Testament states 81 times Jesus said i'm the Son of Man ! Buy and read this Book there is something in it for everyone
I Give it a 5 STAR
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Ok, I first contacted the author when I started reading his book and had some areas I though he could throw more light on. He never responded on his website nor at the discussion board topic that I started here in the hopes that he might reply here when he came to check how his book was faring with the public.

Firstly, the issue was never about Crucifixion of this particular person who the author purports was legally a Roman Citizen, in which case the Sanhedrin had no Jurisdiction over him and as with Paul punishment for treason was beheading. Check the dialogue with Pilate.

The author began by asking why the Sanhedrin, had issues with crucifying Jesus claiming they had no right to pass sentence but....

---"Pilate said to them, "Take Him yourselves and judge Him by your own laws."

They said to him, "It is not lawful for us to put any man to death;" and they began to accuse the Savior saying, "We found this man perverting our nation, and forbidding us to give tribute to Caesar, and saying that He Himself is Christ the King."

So actually they didn't say they couldn't put this particular man to death because he fell under Roman jurisdiction as opposed to James and Stephen whom they did obviously prove they had authority to execute, so their authority to carry out death sentences was obviously one they were allowed but this Jesus was an issue because the author posits that his lineage led to him having the legal standing of a Roman Citizen. I claim that this proves only that the way this Gospel was written was more to blame the Jews and exonerate Pilate.
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