Though my review is the most-upvoted critical review, and the only one shown on the front page, it keeps being removed. Stop Amazon censorship, stop Amazon purges, stop Amazon book-burning (every book contrary to Painter's thesis has already been purged: a list of over 57 volumes, including one work of the luminary Solzhenitsyn).
Without further ado, the quince-banned review:
Imagine a White author writing 'The History of Black People', and you have the inverse of this book, if he were an ill-informed racist with a complete inability to use and weigh the literature and scholarly sources, unless those sources be of 'critical theory'. Not even just American blacks, but all blacks all over the world! The very attempt would be considered racist, and would in truth be terrible ethnography: that hypothetical author would examine American blacks (under the delusion that race is purely a social construct) and then use his 'findings' to condemn East Africans, West Africans, !Kung, Xhosa, Kalahari bushmen, and Aborigines. The author takes the concept of 'White' developed to describe European-Americans and then retrojectively forces it upon European Europeans and Western civilization itself.
The author advocates a one-sided theory of race which is pretty much the Augustinian theory of evil in the key of sociology and anthropology: Whiteness [evil] is the privation of coloredness [good]; White people don't exist; White people are evil.
More social constructionist nonsense - race doesn't exist but somehow Whites are the embodiment of evil and exploitation and the Holy Minority are the embodiment of all that is good and true.
An irremediably racist diatribe against White folk brimming with hatred for Western civilization and its accomplishments, no different than the genocidal Tommy Currys or Noel Ignatievs of the world.
For a corrective, read Duchesne on 'The Uniqueness of Western Civilization'; Frank Salter, 'On Genetic Interests'; and Nobel Prize-winning biologist Sarich and Miele's 'Race'. As to why Amazon bans other viewpoints, read 'The Culture of Critique' (banned from Amazon on 19 March 2019)
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The History of White People Paperback – Illustrated, April 18, 2011
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[I]ntriguing and well researched. This is an important addition to the nascent academic field of whiteness studies, which examines the social construction of whiteness with particular attention to the American experience. It should be read by all historians and anyone with an interest in cultural studies. "
An insightful and lively exposition from a distinguished scholar. --Linda Gordon"
Compelling, energetic, [and] highly readable. --Alan Nadel"
One of the most important books ever on the social construction of the notion that there is a white race. "
Compelling, energetic, [and] highly readable.--Alan Nadel
An insightful and lively exposition from a distinguished scholar. --Linda Gordon"
Compelling, energetic, [and] highly readable. --Alan Nadel"
One of the most important books ever on the social construction of the notion that there is a white race. "
Compelling, energetic, [and] highly readable.--Alan Nadel
About the Author
Nell Irvin Painter is the award-winning author of many books, including Sojourner Truth, Southern History Across the Color Line, Creating Black Americans, The History of White People, and Standing at Armageddon. She is currently the Edwards Professor of American History, Emerita, at Princeton University and lives in Newark, New Jersey, and the Adirondacks.
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- Publisher : W. W. Norton & Company; Illustrated edition (April 18, 2011)
- Language : English
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- Item Weight : 1.11 pounds
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Extensively documented history that will teach you something on almost every page.
Reviewed in the United States on December 19, 2018Verified Purchase
I have to admit that I was skeptical of such a book and didn't believe it would teach me much that I didn't already know. I have a pretty good background in history, especially western civilization, from classical Greece to modern U.S. history. I have been a skeptic on the subject of race almost since I left high school. But Nell Painter won me over almost from the first page of this remarkable book. She did her homework, and she knows how to tell a story. She shows that notions of race are both ancient and also socially and culturally constructed. She also reveals how this conception of a "white" race emerges and becomes so important in Europe and the U.S. She reveals the silliness of race science but also places it in historical context that helps readers understand why otherwise intelligent individuals might be seduced by such notions as skull measurements, cranial capacity, skin tone, facial features, intellectual capacities, etc. She demonstrates how famous and respected figures likeThomas Carlyle and Ralph Waldo Emerson were seduces by a common desperate desire to be on the superior side of a perceived "racial" and class divide, and how someone like Franz Boas could stray from the received opinions of his day when the evidence became less and less convincing. In short, the book is an education in a subject that many of us thought we knew something about. This really is a fresh look at race and notions of "whiteness" that deserves a wide audience, and it looks like that's what's happening. First you have to understand how something came about before you can really see how truly disturbing and misguided it is. She might have called her book the myth of white people, but that would have given away too much of the payoff of discovering all the foolishness that lies behind the very conception of a "white" race of humans.
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This is a dense read, and it's important to remain aware that the book is ultimately about whiteness in the US. If you aren't in it for the long haul, don't start it. Even as a lover of history, geography, and politics (all discussed in this book), my mind would get overwhelmed and I'd have to take breaks. Chapter 27 is OVERWHELMINGLY relevant to the last 10 or so years of racisl justice fights, and is certainly still relevant. After that chapter, the last few seem to be a little rushed or incomplete (likely because she is speaking about the present). It ends with looking forward, and assumptions people have made about the future of the United States as it becomes more brown, but doesn't give the concluding feeling that people generally want from a book. This should honestly be treated like a textbook, and be included in curricula.
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I wish I had read the intro online before buying this book. The writing style is very juvenile. It reads more like a high school student or college student term paper than a scholarly book by a Princeton historian. The title caught my attention, but sadly the book doesn't deliver.
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Reviewed in the United States on November 6, 2018
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What's most important to know can be summed up in the author's YouTube lecture, 'Why are white people called Caucasians?' She delves into the history of identity more than their travail from antiquity. Which seems to be a more palatable approach for the masses.
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Reviewed in the United States on December 31, 2018
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This careful, scholarly, proBlack book tears up the poison that whiteness inflicts on Black Women's lives.
Is painful necesary work in this struggle to remove whiteness, and its genociding,
from our daily lives and future.
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Is painful necesary work in this struggle to remove whiteness, and its genociding,
from our daily lives and future.
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The text explains, in detail, American policies and practices in regard to volunteer immigrants from (what I considered) white countries. Nell Painter reveals the deep research she conducted of this history (white people in America) in a way that reads almost like a novel. As such, it allows self-educators to benefit from traceable truth (not opinion) that was previously available only to researchers, academics, or the oral histories of the specific groups discussed.
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I hate racism, I didn’t like this book either.
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on January 5, 2020Verified Purchase
I didn’t like this book at all. Unfortunately I share that opinion with every white race-hater in the world :-( . Hm. I hate racism.
In an effort to disentangle myself from the ranting of aforementioned white race bigots about Ms Painter’s work, could I state that I was hoping for a book which might get to the real nitty-gritty of race in the Classical World. Why and how did Romans fetishize Germans, for example. How did the Byzantines view Western Europeans. How did the Greeks view their Mediterranean world, and how did they express their European aspect of it. How did ethnicity as opposed to religion play a part in the anti-Jewish pogroms of the Middle Ages. What about Islam, heresy and the New World. The list is endless. A vast subject.
Instead I got lots about slavery (abolished in England for centuries after 1066, but you wouldn’t know that from here), the Scythians (at best semi-European but good for bloodthirsty anecdotes) and the myth of white female beauty, a subject which obsesses Ms Painter as she describes it in paragraph after painful paragraph until she uses a black and white photo of an anonymous Armenian woman from a Soviet-era travel magazine to prove that not all Armenian women are beautiful.
Ouch. I guess her editor was on holiday that Armenian picture passed. It was horrid and made me feel ashamed to look at it. There was other stuff I could mention too. I don’t care to describe black people as entitled because they’re not as a rule, but it was the word that came to mind for Ms Painter when I gave this book up halfway through. Rubbish.
In an effort to disentangle myself from the ranting of aforementioned white race bigots about Ms Painter’s work, could I state that I was hoping for a book which might get to the real nitty-gritty of race in the Classical World. Why and how did Romans fetishize Germans, for example. How did the Byzantines view Western Europeans. How did the Greeks view their Mediterranean world, and how did they express their European aspect of it. How did ethnicity as opposed to religion play a part in the anti-Jewish pogroms of the Middle Ages. What about Islam, heresy and the New World. The list is endless. A vast subject.
Instead I got lots about slavery (abolished in England for centuries after 1066, but you wouldn’t know that from here), the Scythians (at best semi-European but good for bloodthirsty anecdotes) and the myth of white female beauty, a subject which obsesses Ms Painter as she describes it in paragraph after painful paragraph until she uses a black and white photo of an anonymous Armenian woman from a Soviet-era travel magazine to prove that not all Armenian women are beautiful.
Ouch. I guess her editor was on holiday that Armenian picture passed. It was horrid and made me feel ashamed to look at it. There was other stuff I could mention too. I don’t care to describe black people as entitled because they’re not as a rule, but it was the word that came to mind for Ms Painter when I gave this book up halfway through. Rubbish.
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Another brilliant read. Very informative.
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Reviewed in the United Kingdom on April 9, 2019Verified Purchase
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Not what I was looking for
Reviewed in Germany on October 18, 2020Verified Purchase
I'm not that happy with this book. The idea is interesting, but the way it is written doesn't convince me.
First of all, it is actually not a history of white people, as the author herself admits. The focus is actually white slavery vs black slavery, as a fact of historical societies and as an idea inside the society of white people.
This is an intriguing concept and there are certainly interesting facts to discover. But the stile how it is delivered is - in my opinion - old-fashioned, boring and discouraging.
Old-fashioned is for me to start somewhere with the greek and roman accounts about Caucasians, Celtic and Germanic tribes without structuring the whole thing and making clear, what story this is going to tell.
Sometimes in between, we have some idea of whiteness or white supremacy. Then it's again about slavery.
Then we travel further through the centuries and learn this or that, but the guiding principles and concepts only show up from time to time and do not rule the setup of the presentation.
Sorry, but I didn't have the patience to follow this path. For modern historiography I have definitely other expectations.
First of all, it is actually not a history of white people, as the author herself admits. The focus is actually white slavery vs black slavery, as a fact of historical societies and as an idea inside the society of white people.
This is an intriguing concept and there are certainly interesting facts to discover. But the stile how it is delivered is - in my opinion - old-fashioned, boring and discouraging.
Old-fashioned is for me to start somewhere with the greek and roman accounts about Caucasians, Celtic and Germanic tribes without structuring the whole thing and making clear, what story this is going to tell.
Sometimes in between, we have some idea of whiteness or white supremacy. Then it's again about slavery.
Then we travel further through the centuries and learn this or that, but the guiding principles and concepts only show up from time to time and do not rule the setup of the presentation.
Sorry, but I didn't have the patience to follow this path. For modern historiography I have definitely other expectations.
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Strongly recommended.
Reviewed in Canada on October 21, 2017Verified Purchase
Very glad I bought this. Definitely broadens one's understanding of race relations in the US and beyond. Painter's research extends in depth and scope a field that I explored in my MA on Carlyle.
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