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Honeywell Home CS071AE Quiet, Low Energy, Compact Portable Evaporative Cooler with Fan & Humidifier, Carbon Dust Filter & Remote Control, White/Gray, 176 cfm
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| Brand | Honeywell |
| Mounting Type | Freestanding |
| Special Feature | Portable, Washable |
| Color | White/Gray |
| Air Flow Capacity | 176 Cubic Feet Per Minute |
| Controls Type | Remote |
| Reservoir Capacity | 1.85 Gallons |
| Floor Area | 89.00 |
| Model Name | Honeywell Home CS071AE Quiet, Low Energy, Compact Portable Evaporative Cooler with Fan & Humidifier, Carbon Dust Filter & Remote Control, White/Gray, 176 cfm… See more |
| Recommended Uses For Product | Residential |
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About this item
- Indoor evaporative air cooler or swamp cooler Ideal for use in the southwest and Midwest regions of the US. Performs best in hot/dry climates where humidity levels are <50%
- Not just a Fan – Air Cooler reduces temperature through water evaporation. Ideal for spot cooling small areas such as bed, desk area, sofa, dining table
- Super low power consumption (only 32W at highest speed) with Patented Brushless motor technology that offers 5 speeds with Low Energy-Quiet Mode that minimizes energy consumption & sound level in lowest speed setting - Ideal for long hours of quiet comfort at night.
- Super low power consumption (only 32W at highest speed) with Patented Brushless motor technology that offers 5 speeds with Low Energy-Quiet Mode that minimizes energy consumption & sound level in lowest speed setting - Ideal for long hours of quiet comfort at night.
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Summer Cooling that's a Breeze
Powerful, low-energy cooling right where you need it. Evaporative Air Coolers for Spot Cooling roll along with you, fanning a fresh breeze during summer's heat. Enjoy summer without sweating at high energy bills! A multipurpose, compact unit, swamp coolers also humidify dry winter air.
Honeywell Indoor Evaporative Air Cooler with Fan & Humidifier for Spot Cooling, CSO71AE
A local spot cooler, this lightweight, highly energy-efficient, model is built to cool your immediate area. Couch, bed, workspace, breakfast nook—the unit is compact and easily portable for personal evaporative cooling. Choose from five speeds, including a whisper-quiet option for lighter sleepers. Prefer gentle humidity over coolness? Simply select a low-fan setting for humidification. New to evaporative air cooling? The sensation is like a lakeside breeze. Browse through these tabs to discover more about this energy-efficient technology.
So, It's Not an Air Conditioner—Right?
Correct! Evaporative air coolers don't spray mist, nor do they use heavy compressors or refrigerant gas to lower air temperatures. Instead, they moderately reduce heat through evaporating water vapor into the air. They work most effectively in hot, dry climates. Check out the map: The red and orange regions, with less than 45% relative humidity, are suited for indoor & outdoor evaporative coolers; the yellow regions, between 45%-65% relative humidity, can benefit from outdoor evaporative coolers; the blue, more humid zones are on target for outdoor evaporative cooling or indoor Honeywell Portable Air Conditioners.
How do Evaporative Air Coolers Work?
Honeywell evaporative air coolers are constructed with three central components: a fan, a pump system to circulate water and a honeycomb-shaped absorbent panel. The fan draws in warm air through the wet honeycomb media; evaporation converts the moisture into water vapor; and then cooler, more humid air flows out on the other side. When using an evaporative air cooler, ventilate. Open a window, or keep a door ajar, to expel over-humidity and allow for circulation of fresh, dry air. Also, be aware that the honeycomb media may have a distinct odor when first used, which will dissipate after a couple hours.
Honeywell: A Trusted Brand with Comprehensive Customer Support
As a select Honeywell licensee, JMatek is committed to Honeywell's brand reputation for quality and comfort. Our comprehensive customer support policy protects your purchase against any manufacturing defects. A US-based customer service hotline connects you directly to a knowledgeable support agent who is ready to assist you.
Honeywell Indoor Evaporative Air Cooler with Fan & Humidifier for Spot Cooling, CSO71AE
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No-Sweat Energy BillsWith energy consumption ranging between 7.4 W and 32 W from its lowest to highest setting, the cooler is a model for energy-efficient cooling. |
Portable & Lightweight for Easy MobilityWeighing only 12 lbs. and with smooth gliding caster wheels, you can roll and play around the home and office. |
Unobtrusive, Whisper-Quiet MotorWell-suited for the bedroom, the portable air cooler has a background murmur of 24 dBA on sleep mode. |
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Five Speed SettingsMultiple fan options alternate between gentle humidity and targeted spot cooling. |
Safeguards against ContaminantsWashable active carbon filter traps dust, odors and pollutants. |
Convenient Remote ControlOperate using the full-featured remote without leaving your bed, workspace or couch. |
Set It & Forget It TimerProgrammable for up to 7.5 hours, set the timer for unattended operation. |
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| CS071AE | CS10XE | CL201AE | CL30XC | CO25AE | CO60PM | |
| Honeywell Model No. | CS071AE | CS10XE | CL201AE | CL30XC | CO25AE | CO60PM |
| Evaporative Cooler Type | Indoor Spot | Indoor Spot | Indoor Room | Indoor Room | Outdoor/Indoor | Outdoor/Indoor |
| Recommended Cooling Area | Personal Spaces | Personal Spaces and Small Rooms | Medium Rooms | Medium Rooms | Small Outdoor Spaces / Medium Indoor Rooms | Medium Outdoor Spaces / Large Indoor Rooms |
| Feature Highlight | Whisper-Quiet Setting | Detachable Water Tank | Adjustable Humidity Control, Rhythmic Wind Mode | Detachable Water Tank, Adjustable Humidity Control | Weatherproof, Adjustable Humidity Control | Weatherproof, Wide Fan Blades, Continuous Water Supply |
| Fan Speeds | 5 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 |
| Ice Compartment | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | - | ||
| Low Water Alarm, Remote & Timer | Timer Only | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | - |
| Filter Type | Active Carbon | Active Carbon | Active Carbon | Active Carbon | Mesh | - |
| Weight (lbs) | 12.6 | 18.5 | 23.4 | 24.9 | 25.8 | 39.2 |
| Water tank size (gallons) | 1.8 | 2.6 | 5.3 | 7.9 | 6.6 | 15.9 |
Product Description
Like a breeze flowing across a lake, Honeywell Evaporative Coolers provide a natural, cool breeze with the power of water evaporation. Honeywell Evaporative Coolers combine 3 appliances: Evaporative air cooler, fan and humidifier - into one compact energy-saving system. A fan alone creates a breeze by recirculating warm air, but when you add water and/ice to the tank, Honeywell Evaporative Coolers reduce the temperature of incoming warm air, transforming it into a cool moist breeze. Honeywell Portable Air Coolers are built to last and carefully crafted with the science of aerodynamics to minimize energy consumption while maximizing the airflow. An evaporative air cooler offers an energy efficient cooling option when the air is hot with low humidity, such as desert areas like the southwestern United States (recommended humidity level is 60% or less for maximum efficiency). For those living in more humid cities, please consider Honeywell Portable Air Conditioners.cfm176
Product information
| Brand | Honeywell |
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| Mounting Type | Freestanding |
| Special Feature | Portable, Washable |
| Color | White/Gray |
| Air Flow Capacity | 176 Cubic Feet Per Minute |
| Controls Type | Remote |
| Reservoir Capacity | 1.85 Gallons |
| Floor Area | 89.00 |
| Model Name | Honeywell Home CS071AE Quiet, Low Energy, Compact Portable Evaporative Cooler with Fan & Humidifier, Carbon Dust Filter & Remote Control, White/Gray, 176 cfm… |
| Recommended Uses For Product | Residential |
| Included Components | swamp cooler, remote control, coin battery, manual, warranty |
| Number of Speeds | 5 |
| Product Dimensions | 9.8"D x 14.9"W x 25.4"H |
| Voltage | 115 Volts |
| Item Weight | 12.3 pounds |
| Manufacturer | JMA Honeywell |
| ASIN | B008UHXPD4 |
| Item model number | CS071AE |
| Batteries | 1 Lithium Ion batteries required. (included) |
| Customer Reviews |
3.3 out of 5 stars |
| Best Sellers Rank | #1,421,417 in Home & Kitchen (See Top 100 in Home & Kitchen) #505 in Portable Air Conditioners |
| Is Discontinued By Manufacturer | No |
| Finish types | White or Cream |
| Warranty Description | 1 year parts and labor. |
| Batteries required | No |
| Import | Made in USA |
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Therefore, before I jump into the review on this product, I feel it's necessary to address: (1) the difference between a Swamp Cooler and an AC and (2) whether a Swamp Cooler will work in the climate in your area.
If you're well-acquainted with Swamp Coolers, you may wish to skip the following sections titled "The Difference Between A Swamp Cooler and an AC" and "Will A Swamp Cooler Work For You?" and dive right into reading the actual product review under the section titled "Review of the Honeywell CSO71AE 15 Pt. Indoor Portable Evaporative Air Cooler."
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The Difference Between A Swamp Cooler and an AC
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(i) AC:
An AC cools air by using a refrigerant (older ACs/refrigerators use a CFC-based refrigerant called r-12, AKA "freon" while modern day counterparts use an HFC-based refrigerant called R-134A). The refrigerant, initially under pressure and in liquid form, is subjected to rapid expansion and turns into a gas. The gasification process causes the refrigerant to absorb heat and hence the air around it is cooled. The gasified refrigerant is then channeled into a compressor, which re-pressurizes the refrigerant back into a liquid -- and the cycle starts over. A window AC uses about 1000 Watts of power.
(ii) Swamp Cooler:
In a swamp cooler, outside air (dry air) is passed through a pad soaked in water. The air causes some of the water in the pad to evaporate. The evaporative process extracts heat from the air and hence the air temperature drops. The evaporative process also humidifies the air. As opposed to an AC system, which can be a closed system (i.e. the expelled cooled air can be channeled back into the AC to be cooled again), an evaporative cooler needs to take in air from the OUTSIDE and the indoor air needs to be expelled outside (the expelled air, which has been humidified through the evaporative process, has to be directed away from the Swamp Cooler air intake to prevent it from being reintroduced into the swamp cooler). A Swamp Cooler uses about 50 Watts of power.
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Will A Swamp Cooler Work For You?
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To determine whether the area you live in is well suited for the use of a swamp cooler, all you have to do is look at the "relative humidity" or "humidity" reported by a weather forecasting service for your area. The relative humidity will vary throughout the day, so it will most likely be reported under the hourly forecast. In my area, for example, the relative humidity varies from 25% to 75% throughout the day.
Let's get concrete: To show you EXACTLY how much cooling you expect a swamp cooler to deliver when it's used in your area, I have uploaded an Evaporative Cooler Chart from an almanac to the Customer Image section on the Product Page . The chart shows you the precise temperature you would expect based on (1) Air Temperature (before evaporative cooling) and (2) Relative Humidity.
For example, let's say the air temperature is 102 F. Using the chart, we can see that for a dry area where the relative humidity is 25%, a swamp cooler can bring the air temperature down to 77 F. If, however, the swamp cooler is used in an area with a relatively high humidity of 75%, a swamp cooler would only bring the air temperature down to 95 F!
(To view the chart from other sources, you also can Google for "Evaporative Cooling Chart" in Google Images.)
With the lengthy explanation of how a swamp cooler works out of the way, I'll proceed with the actual review of the Honeywell CSO71AE 15 Pt. Indoor Portable Evaporative Air Cooler.
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Review of the Honeywell CSO71AE 15 Pt. Indoor Portable Evaporative Air Cooler
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The Honeywell is my second evaporative cooler. I've had another swamp cooler before -- one made by NewAir -- NewAir AF-330 Evaporative HEPA Swamp Cooler . This one was almost totally ineffective! All it did was to cool the air temperature by a degree or two!
Now this Honeywell is SWEEE...EEET! It's able to reduce the outside air temperature by 15 F to 20 F. I have it hooked up to a homemade window vent so it draws only the dry air from the outside (another vent expels the humid indoor air out).
Note that it is important for a swamp cool to draw air from the outside to keep it working at its maximum efficiency. You cannot expect this unit to work indoors in a closed environment because as the humidity builds up (the evaporative process needed for cooling introduces humidity into the air), the swamp cooler becomes less and less efficient. Remember the chart we talked about earlier? As humidity increases, the efficiency of the swamp cooler decreases.
This unit works but it's by no means perfect. There are a few things I don't like about it:
(1) Tiny Water Fill Port
The water fill port is only 2-1/2 inches across and on the back side of the unit. For maximum ease in filling the tank, you would want to use a container with a spout (such as a pitcher).
(2) No Ice Compartment
This unit has no ice compartment. You can still put some ice cube through the tiny water port (with a little coaxing, the ice cubes will pass through the port quite easily). But block ice or "Blue Ice" is definitely out of the question!
(3) 100 Square Feet Rating Overrated
The cooler is rated for 100 sq feet, which is overrated. The air flow (supposedly 150 CFM) is not as strong as I had hoped, even with the fan at the maximum speed (there are 3 fan speeds). It might provide a slightly smaller room with reasonably efficient cooling, but 100 sq ft seems like a stretch. (If you plan on using a swamp cooler for bigger rooms, consider Honeywell's 2 other models that have higher cooling capacities: 1. Honeywell CO25AE 52 Pt. Indoor/Outdoor Portable Evaporative Air Cooler with Remote Control and 2. Honeywell CO60PM 125 Pt. Commercial Indoor/Outdoor Portable Evaporative Air Cooler
Now the pluses:
(1) Saves You Money On Utilities
This particular unit uses no more power than a 50W light bulb! I can run it all day without worrying about racking up the energy bill.
(2) It Works
It works for localized cooling or for cooling a smaller room.
(3) Portable And Lightweight
Its compact size (14" x 8-1/2" x 24") and its surprisingly light weight (when empty) makes it very portable!
(4) Reasonably Priced
It's reasonably priced compared some of the more expensive units (some of which -- I'm willing to bet -- don't work half as well as this unit!). It's definitely cheaper than my NewAir unit, which is virtually USELESS.
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My biggest gripe about the Honeywell is the somewhat weak fan (and the overrated 100 Square Feet Cooling Capacity). But all in all, it isn't a bad unit. If you're looking for a swamp cooler for localized cooling or for cooling a smaller room, this one's definitely worth consideration.
******** [Update 2013-07-14] ********
I've had the cooler for 3 weeks now and I have kept it running most of the day (it almost never gets turned off). It's holding up very well and there's been no degradation in performance.
Here are a couple more observations I wish to add:
(1) No Low Water Alarm (↓)
I have on several occasions run the water down until the tank is literally bone dry. I've never received a Low Water Alarm mentioned in the product description.
(2) Glug-Glug! (↓)
It has been mentioned that this machine makes glug-glug noises. I didn't encounter the problem until a couple of days ago and have had the problem one other time since. In both cases, I turned the machine off momentarily and turned it back on -- that solved the problem. It's mostly an annoyance that's tolerable (unless the problem gets worse).
(3) Water Pump Dry-Running Protection (↑)
Dry-Running occurs when the water pump has no more water to pump. Dry-Running ruins a water pumps with NO dry-run protection. I have left the water pump in the cooler to dry-run for hours at a time and it doesn't seem to be an issue (so far at least) -- a big plus -- I don't want to have to deal with the hassle of ensuring there's water in the cooler at all times!
Despite a couple of (minor) issues, this cooler is still a very serviceable unit, and I feel comfortable leaving the rating at 4 stars. If any problems crop up, I'll be sure to update this review.
Reviewed in the United States on July 5, 2013
Therefore, before I jump into the review on this product, I feel it's necessary to address: (1) the difference between a Swamp Cooler and an AC and (2) whether a Swamp Cooler will work in the climate in your area.
If you're well-acquainted with Swamp Coolers, you may wish to skip the following sections titled "The Difference Between A Swamp Cooler and an AC" and "Will A Swamp Cooler Work For You?" and dive right into reading the actual product review under the section titled "Review of the Honeywell CSO71AE 15 Pt. Indoor Portable Evaporative Air Cooler."
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The Difference Between A Swamp Cooler and an AC
-----------------------------------------------
(i) AC:
An AC cools air by using a refrigerant (older ACs/refrigerators use a CFC-based refrigerant called r-12, AKA "freon" while modern day counterparts use an HFC-based refrigerant called R-134A). The refrigerant, initially under pressure and in liquid form, is subjected to rapid expansion and turns into a gas. The gasification process causes the refrigerant to absorb heat and hence the air around it is cooled. The gasified refrigerant is then channeled into a compressor, which re-pressurizes the refrigerant back into a liquid -- and the cycle starts over. A window AC uses about 1000 Watts of power.
(ii) Swamp Cooler:
In a swamp cooler, outside air (dry air) is passed through a pad soaked in water. The air causes some of the water in the pad to evaporate. The evaporative process extracts heat from the air and hence the air temperature drops. The evaporative process also humidifies the air. As opposed to an AC system, which can be a closed system (i.e. the expelled cooled air can be channeled back into the AC to be cooled again), an evaporative cooler needs to take in air from the OUTSIDE and the indoor air needs to be expelled outside (the expelled air, which has been humidified through the evaporative process, has to be directed away from the Swamp Cooler air intake to prevent it from being reintroduced into the swamp cooler). A Swamp Cooler uses about 50 Watts of power.
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Will A Swamp Cooler Work For You?
---------------------------------
To determine whether the area you live in is well suited for the use of a swamp cooler, all you have to do is look at the "relative humidity" or "humidity" reported by a weather forecasting service for your area. The relative humidity will vary throughout the day, so it will most likely be reported under the hourly forecast. In my area, for example, the relative humidity varies from 25% to 75% throughout the day.
Let's get concrete: To show you EXACTLY how much cooling you expect a swamp cooler to deliver when it's used in your area, I have uploaded an Evaporative Cooler Chart from an almanac to the Customer Image section on the [[ASIN:B008UHXPD4 Product Page]]. The chart shows you the precise temperature you would expect based on (1) Air Temperature (before evaporative cooling) and (2) Relative Humidity.
For example, let's say the air temperature is 102 F. Using the chart, we can see that for a dry area where the relative humidity is 25%, a swamp cooler can bring the air temperature down to 77 F. If, however, the swamp cooler is used in an area with a relatively high humidity of 75%, a swamp cooler would only bring the air temperature down to 95 F!
(To view the chart from other sources, you also can Google for "Evaporative Cooling Chart" in Google Images.)
With the lengthy explanation of how a swamp cooler works out of the way, I'll proceed with the actual review of the Honeywell CSO71AE 15 Pt. Indoor Portable Evaporative Air Cooler.
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Review of the Honeywell CSO71AE 15 Pt. Indoor Portable Evaporative Air Cooler
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The Honeywell is my second evaporative cooler. I've had another swamp cooler before -- one made by [[ASIN:B009NJ678I NewAir -- NewAir AF-330 Evaporative HEPA Swamp Cooler]]. This one was almost totally ineffective! All it did was to cool the air temperature by a degree or two!
Now this Honeywell is SWEEE...EEET! It's able to reduce the outside air temperature by 15 F to 20 F. I have it hooked up to a homemade window vent so it draws only the dry air from the outside (another vent expels the humid indoor air out).
Note that it is important for a swamp cool to draw air from the outside to keep it working at its maximum efficiency. You cannot expect this unit to work indoors in a closed environment because as the humidity builds up (the evaporative process needed for cooling introduces humidity into the air), the swamp cooler becomes less and less efficient. Remember the chart we talked about earlier? As humidity increases, the efficiency of the swamp cooler decreases.
This unit works but it's by no means perfect. There are a few things I don't like about it:
(1) Tiny Water Fill Port
The water fill port is only 2-1/2 inches across and on the back side of the unit. For maximum ease in filling the tank, you would want to use a container with a spout (such as a pitcher).
(2) No Ice Compartment
This unit has no ice compartment. You can still put some ice cube through the tiny water port (with a little coaxing, the ice cubes will pass through the port quite easily). But block ice or "Blue Ice" is definitely out of the question!
(3) 100 Square Feet Rating Overrated
The cooler is rated for 100 sq feet, which is overrated. The air flow (supposedly 150 CFM) is not as strong as I had hoped, even with the fan at the maximum speed (there are 3 fan speeds). It might provide a slightly smaller room with reasonably efficient cooling, but 100 sq ft seems like a stretch. (If you plan on using a swamp cooler for bigger rooms, consider Honeywell's 2 other models that have higher cooling capacities: 1. [[ASIN:B008UHXXBI Honeywell CO25AE 52 Pt. Indoor/Outdoor Portable Evaporative Air Cooler with Remote Control]] and 2. [[ASIN:B008UHXUSO Honeywell CO60PM 125 Pt. Commercial Indoor/Outdoor Portable Evaporative Air Cooler]]
Now the pluses:
(1) Saves You Money On Utilities
This particular unit uses no more power than a 50W light bulb! I can run it all day without worrying about racking up the energy bill.
(2) It Works
It works for localized cooling or for cooling a smaller room.
(3) Portable And Lightweight
Its compact size (14" x 8-1/2" x 24") and its surprisingly light weight (when empty) makes it very portable!
(4) Reasonably Priced
It's reasonably priced compared some of the more expensive units (some of which -- I'm willing to bet -- don't work half as well as this unit!). It's definitely cheaper than my NewAir unit, which is virtually USELESS.
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My biggest gripe about the Honeywell is the somewhat weak fan (and the overrated 100 Square Feet Cooling Capacity). But all in all, it isn't a bad unit. If you're looking for a swamp cooler for localized cooling or for cooling a smaller room, this one's definitely worth consideration.
******** [Update 2013-07-14] ********
I've had the cooler for 3 weeks now and I have kept it running most of the day (it almost never gets turned off). It's holding up very well and there's been no degradation in performance.
Here are a couple more observations I wish to add:
(1) No Low Water Alarm (↓)
I have on several occasions run the water down until the tank is literally bone dry. I've never received a Low Water Alarm mentioned in the product description.
(2) Glug-Glug! (↓)
It has been mentioned that this machine makes glug-glug noises. I didn't encounter the problem until a couple of days ago and have had the problem one other time since. In both cases, I turned the machine off momentarily and turned it back on -- that solved the problem. It's mostly an annoyance that's tolerable (unless the problem gets worse).
(3) Water Pump Dry-Running Protection (↑)
Dry-Running occurs when the water pump has no more water to pump. Dry-Running ruins a water pumps with NO dry-run protection. I have left the water pump in the cooler to dry-run for hours at a time and it doesn't seem to be an issue (so far at least) -- a big plus -- I don't want to have to deal with the hassle of ensuring there's water in the cooler at all times!
Despite a couple of (minor) issues, this cooler is still a very serviceable unit, and I feel comfortable leaving the rating at 4 stars. If any problems crop up, I'll be sure to update this review.
I'm really sad, because I think it's an awesome cooler, but the short circuit is enough to bring this rating down to 1star for me.
Edit: The part that broke was a resistor. I have some minor skills in electrical soldering, so I figured I would take a chance with it. The old resistor was a 3 watt. So I tried a 5 watt and somehow managed to repair the section of the circuit board that burnt out. Since changing to 5 watt, this cooler has been working magnificently. In the Arizona heat it cools my conversion van about 20 degrees Fahrenheit. I use it all the time and now the top doesn't get hot. It can run for hours without over heating. The plastic that it's made from is also very durable, so if it falls over while I drive, I don't have to worry. It's a shame that they have such an awesome product, but because of a lack of quality control on the production end the electronics can go out so quickly. To the engineers: please consider changing the resistor next to the small battery to a 5 watt instead. These coolers will get a lot more use out of them and better reviews.
Reviewed in the United States on December 17, 2016
I'm really sad, because I think it's an awesome cooler, but the short circuit is enough to bring this rating down to 1star for me.
Edit: The part that broke was a resistor. I have some minor skills in electrical soldering, so I figured I would take a chance with it. The old resistor was a 3 watt. So I tried a 5 watt and somehow managed to repair the section of the circuit board that burnt out. Since changing to 5 watt, this cooler has been working magnificently. In the Arizona heat it cools my conversion van about 20 degrees Fahrenheit. I use it all the time and now the top doesn't get hot. It can run for hours without over heating. The plastic that it's made from is also very durable, so if it falls over while I drive, I don't have to worry. It's a shame that they have such an awesome product, but because of a lack of quality control on the production end the electronics can go out so quickly. To the engineers: please consider changing the resistor next to the small battery to a 5 watt instead. These coolers will get a lot more use out of them and better reviews.


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