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Ron Louis and David Copeland have appeared as dating gurus on numerous television shows, including the NBC game show To Tell the Truth, The Roseanne Show, CNN, UPN, ABC, MTV, Good Morning LA, Good Day New York, and FOX News. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.
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Product Details

  • Paperback: 416 pages
  • Publisher: Prentice Hall Press; Rev Upd edition (January 6, 2009)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0735204357
  • ISBN-13: 978-0735204355
  • Product Dimensions: 5.4 x 0.9 x 8.2 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 12.8 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 3.7 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (28 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #401,197 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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I'll keep this short: This book is an excellent book for learning that basics of relationships, how to live a generative life that attracts women, and how to find, meet and build a relationship with women. You can read plenty of reviews over at the original book's page.

However, this updated version is nearly identical to the original except that they've hacked out the last chapter! Why did you do this Ron and David?! The last chapter, From Casual to Committed is vital for guys who've found themselves repeatedly in short-term relationships or couldn't keep a relationship going. This chapter alone turned my last relationship from being two months and made it two great years (ultimately I decided not to marry for other reasons). It's vital for any guy who ever wants to have a long-term, fulfilling committed relationship, or marry.

Avoid this one and get the original!
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Let me just be succinct: I'm a 27 year old black male from NYC. I'm in my 3rd year of law school. Although I went out with women a few times, I never had a real girlfriend and I'm a virgin.

Some of the advice in the book is very useful. They tell you not to seek fulfillment from a woman and to be passionate about something in your life. I agree 100%. I used to look to women for validation and this only made me bitter since I was always lonely. Now, I play the viola, workout, and go on trips. They also tell you not to bend over backwards for a woman. There have been many instances in the past in which I've been taking advantage of by women and did not receive anything in return.

I like this book since they are honest and frank. They said that reading this book will not enable you to date Sofia Vergara or Megan Fox (they didn't use those specific examples, but you get the point). Some women are simply out of your league. However, most women are attainable. They also explained how women want nice guys to be friends, but not lovers. This was another mistake I made. I previously thought that if a woman is nice to you, she wants to date you. That's not necessarily true.

Although I like the book, it has quite a few flaws. The book is intended for guys who want to meet white women ostensibly born in America (I'm not trying to be racist, I'm just proving a point). Those are the women who are preoccupied with their hair and buying shoes. Based on my experience, foreign women (African, Filipino, Russian) are less shallow than American women. The book doesn't mention that.

The book also gives you general advice on first date ideas and ice breakers, but no specific pick-up lines. That would've been helpful.
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After my last painful breakup, I finally bought a few books about dating to see where things went wrong: Doc Love's The System, David Deangelo's Double Your Dating e-Book, and this one. In the process, I learned a lot of extremely important concepts that every man should know. The painful breakup was over two years ago and it was, indeed, the last.

The System teaches several critical things about filtering out bad women. It can save you a ton of time and money by "testing" girls to see if they're using you and/or straight up toxic, despite their blinding beauty. It also has a lot of great info on being mysterious and challenging through the course of an entire relationship to keep a woman interested. For example, after getting a number (and until she asks to be your girlfriend), Doc says to wait 5-9 days to call -- and no weekends. The users and abusers forget your name or never answer. The good ones are thrilled to hear from you. He also teaches to always let the woman do the touching and mushy talk before you even think about doing either (and never really get mushy). Good stuff.

Deangelo's material seemed to contradict Doc Love in a lot of ways. He focuses more on _what_ you do or say than _when_ you do or say it. He emphasizes that women are genetically programmed to respond to men who are in control and not emotional (i.e. they're cocky & funny and never needy, sad, or angry), and ultimately how to completely avoid the romantic suicide of acting like a wuss. While Doc Love left out a lot of details on exactly how to behave around women, Deangelo nailed it on the head with the sort of "unpredictable and upbeat alpha male" concept. Learning both authors' sides has made a huge difference in my dating life and made me very aware of where I screwed up before.
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I really enjoyed reading this book and am planning on reading it again soon. The authors did a good job explaining what women are thinking in every step of the relationship and what they are looking for in a man. This book is not like many of the other pick up artist manuals that teach all kinds of strange rituals and cues that leave you even more confused than you were when you started. Women aren't evil, spiteful creatures after all; they just think completely differently than we do and we have all been brainwashed by the misinformation on television and unreasonable social customs. This book is definitely worth reading.
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