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Not Black not black not black not black not black
on January 27, 2017
Just to echo others that wrote it, these pants in black are NOT BLACK. They are really sort of blue. You can really tell this when you wear them with your black socks, black shoes, etc., and get into your black car with black seats. I thought it wouldn't be as big of deal to me when I ordered them, having read such comments about the color, but it really irritates me now that these pants are not black. So, I warn you, they are NOT BLACK. They don't even really work as blue pants, so this black color is just foul and probably should be a deal breaker.
The material seems fine, and the fit is really roomy. They're roomier than Dockers D3, more like a D4. Maybe they're a good value in other colors.