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Incredible Shrinking Son of Man: How Reliable Is the Gospel Tradition? Hardcover – December 1, 2003
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Print length389 pages
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LanguageEnglish
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PublisherPrometheus
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Publication dateDecember 1, 2003
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Dimensions5.57 x 1.02 x 8.37 inches
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ISBN-101591021219
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ISBN-13978-1591021216
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"This informative and gripping books shows us how the Gospel stories were put together in order to satisfy religious craving." -- Ulster Humanist, April-May 2004
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In his introduction, Price defines and defends higher criticism of the Bible, a tool he uses to reconcile history with Scripture. Next, Price presents the sources the Gospel writers used to compose their works, as well as the territory already charted by biblical scholarship. Price's investigation follows a traditional life-of-Jesus outline, starting with Jesus' birth--why is it celebrated on December 25? Was it really a virgin birth?
In chapter 4, Price analyzes Baptist and other Christian beliefs about Jesus and John the Baptist, proposing that the latter's role may not be historical. Price wrestles with the controversial question of miracles, setting the groundwork for judging the authenticity of these stories. Many miracle accounts, Price shows, have parallels in other Jewish and Hellenistic traditions, and each miracle story has a particular structure, which fits a general pattern. Does this mean that historians cannot judge any miracle stories as occurring historically?
After scrutinizing stories of Jesus as a man of the people, Price delves into the descriptions of the twelve disciples, analyzing each one, especially Simon Peter. In this thorough examination, Price draws parallels with other religious traditions. The next two chapters take this comparison a step further in a brief review of Buddhism. Finally, Price surveys the details of the accounts of Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection, concluding that similarities in Christian and other religious traditions must mean a common origin--one with no room for a historical Jesus.
THE INCREDIBLE SHRINKING SON OF MAN belongs in the tradition of David Friedrich Strauss and Rudolf Bultmann, scrutinizing the Gospels concisely and in astonishing detail. Price takes a consistent, thorough-going critical look at the gospel tradition, discarding faith's mandates and delivering good reasons for every skeptical judgment of the Gospels' historical accuracy in depicting Jesus.
A prequel to Price's DECONSTRUCTING JESUS, THE INCREDIBLE SHRINKING SON OF MAN explains advanced scholarship on the historical Jesus in terms--and with references to popular culture--that any reader can understand.
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- Publisher : Prometheus; First Edition, First Printing (December 1, 2003)
- Language : English
- Hardcover : 389 pages
- ISBN-10 : 1591021219
- ISBN-13 : 978-1591021216
- Item Weight : 1.44 pounds
- Dimensions : 5.57 x 1.02 x 8.37 inches
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What to think of this book. It's well organized and comes with a fancy title. I'm all for sizzle with my steak so that's good. If you've listened to a lot of this guys pod casts you'll feel right at home. If you're looking for a straight up scholarly peer reviewed work- not so much.
That isn't to say it's lacking in substance- far from it. I just find it's often injected with to much skepticism without providing any substantial rationale rooted in historical facts. It's like he's having a dialogue with himself and you are simply listening in. With that said, he tends to leave a few blanks which would be best filled in. Let me see if I can unearth a few examples here...hmmm..
For instance, the whole issue with the census under Quirinius. He mentions how there is no data whatsoever for such a census. Probably the most compelling evidence would be the revolt of the Jews in 6CE which ended in thousands massacred along the hillsides after being forcibly taxed (if I'm getting my facts straight here). Well, there is more to the story on that. There are extant records which show that there were census' conducted in providence's outside of Rome during that time. Extant records show Rome may have participated in them as well. Also, much is not known about Quirinius prior to his rulership in Syria. My point is, this is never dealt with or presented to his audience. Take a look at this data yourself: http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/11/01/Once-More-Quiriniuss-Census.aspx#Article
Secondly, the same thing applies to the whole "no synagogues" in Galilee at the time of Jesus. There's another critique on this book which points it out and adds some facts concerning recent archaeological findings.
What's most exhausting about such a work as this- pure opinion here- is cross checking references. Price often smacks you in the face with a handful of texts, authors and other assorted research. If you're not wearing a helmet you'll certainly feel the pain while trying to follow his train of thought. The meat of the argument is buried in the details folks. If you really want to grasp what's going on, you'll have to lay out and examine the same materials Price has worked so hard to understand. Trouble is, you often aren't clearly directed to what those materials are.
In any case, it's worth a read. I dig the whole "principle of analogy" and "principle of biographical analogy" he covers at the beginning. Much with anything, there's always more to it. However, if you take the time you can pick up where guys like Price are coming from. Like I said, just remember to wear a helmet while you read this.
He wrote in the Introduction to this 2003 book, "fundamentalists and demagogues are far from the only zealots for the Bible. Many more of us, whether Christians, Jews, Humanists, or just plain historians, have been bitten by the biblical bug and devote our efforts to elucidating the pages of a text we find consumingly fascinating for its own sake. We feel about the Bible as others do about the works of Homer and Shakespeare. We feel the need to explode misconceptions about the Bible... primarily so that a better understanding of the text may come to replace them. The quest for the historical Jesus is a specific case, or subset, of this scholarly zeal." (Pg. 10)
About the statement of Papias ("Mark, being the interpreter of Peter..."), he observes, "But are we sure Papias is even referring to our familiar gospels of Matthew and Mark? From his description of the Peter-Mark document, he might as easily be talking about the Ebionite work 'The Preachings of Peter'... And Matthew? Our Matthew was certainly not originally composed in Hebrew or Aramaic, for the simple reason that most of it is the reproduced text of the Greek Mark!... Isn't it just as natural to infer [Papias] is talking about a different document, attributed to Matthew, that WAS composed in Hebrew or Aramaic?" (Pg. 37)
Of the Census of Quirinius in Luke 2, he says, "The attempt of apologist Sir William Ramsey [sic] ] to make Quirinius governor of Syria on an earlier occasion... is totally unfounded. All Ramsey discovered was an inscription saying Quirinius had been honored for his aid in a military victory, and Ramsey gratuitiously guessed that Quirinius's reward had been a previous tenure as governor of Syria. Besides, there is no room for it. We know who occupied the post in Herod's time, and it was not Quirinius." (Pg. 61)
He argues, "But suppose John [the Bbaptist] was a historical figure, as he very likely was. Even if one should hold to the view that Jesus was not a historical figure, he would not necessarily take John down with him, so to speak. Any way one views it, the connection between Jesus and John is secondary, an attempt co-opt John's sect and absorb it into the early church by subordinating John to Jesus... Once it reached this point, it would scarcely matter if the figurehead of one sect were historical, the other mythical." (Pg. 104)
Of Jesus' use of 'Abba' when addressing God, he comments, "by New Testament times [Abba] had become the common word for father, denoting no special degree of tender intimacy. After all, Mark and Paul both translate it simply as 'father.'... Certainly the 'Abba' address passed from Aramaic-speaking Christians to Greek-speaking ones like Paul and Mark, and thence into the mouth of Mark's Jesus. Remember, no one was there to hear what Jesus had said in prayer. Mark created the scene out of whole cloth. Again, this is no evidence for what the historical Jesus may have thought of himself." (Pg. 286)
Price is an unusual figure (not many Jesus skeptics are also New Testament scholars), but his books are important reading for anyone studying the historical evidence for Jesus.
This is a very dense book. Virtually every sentence is introducing a new concept, making a new point, or drawing a new conclusion. The pace (if such a term is appropriate for a work of nonfiction) is very quick, indeed. The reader is well advised to set aside large blocks of time for reading. This is not the type of book one can read a few paragraphs at a time during the commercial breaks of a sporting event on TV. The reader must make an effort to keep up with the author.
The author assumes the reader as a certain amount of sophistication. If you're unfamiliar with phrases or concepts like deutero-Isaiah, Johannine appendix, Gospel of Thomas, etc this book is going to be over your head.
The author's style isn't the easiest and lacks a certain amount of polish. One gets the impression that having written the book the author didn't feel up to going back to smooth out rough edges and the editor, if any, didn't insist. Many passages read like they're from a "stream of consciousness" stage performance. Indeed, I'd be willing to bet the book was dictated. Price is a fascinating man to listen to but the written word needs a different touch.
The book is largely speculative. Price is fairly rigorous about spelling out why the various Gospel passages cannot be historic. His explanations about what they actually do represent, however, while plausible, can in most cases hardly be conclusive.
These caveats aside, it's obvious that Price knows his stuff. The book is extremely interesting and very rewarding.
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I was especially interested in the idea in the first chapter " In his inspired work on the attribution of sayings in the Mishnah, Jacob Neusner has shown how name-citations, ascriptions to this or that famous name must be understood not as evidence for what those actually said or wrote but rather according to the name-citation's polemical significance in the document under consideration. "
There is a possibility that the gospels weren't written until the third century.
Robert M. Price also notes John 8v57 where the Jewish leaders say to Jesus, " You are not yet fifty years old " which would be a strange thing to say to a man of only 30 years old according to Luke 3v23.
Yes there are alot of highly amusin incites in this wonderful book
