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Intelligence, Genes, and Success: Scientists Respond to The Bell Curve (Statistics for Social Science and Public Policy) 1997th Edition
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- ISBN-100387949860
- ISBN-13978-0387949864
- Edition1997th
- PublisherCopernicus
- Publication dateAugust 7, 1997
- LanguageEnglish
- Dimensions6.1 x 0.89 x 9.25 inches
- Print length376 pages
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Stephen E. Fienberg is Maurice Falk Professor of Statistics and Social Science at Carnegie-Mellon University and a fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the American Statistical Association.
Daniel P. Resnick is Professor of History at Carnegie-Mellon University. His research deals with the relationship of historical thinking and experience to public policy development.
Kathryn Roeder is Associate Professor of Statistics, Carnegie-Mellon University. She has a strong research interest in applied problems including statistical genetics, DNA forensic inference and criminology.
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- Publisher : Copernicus; 1997th edition (August 7, 1997)
- Language : English
- Paperback : 376 pages
- ISBN-10 : 0387949860
- ISBN-13 : 978-0387949864
- Item Weight : 1.35 pounds
- Dimensions : 6.1 x 0.89 x 9.25 inches
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- Reviewed in the United States on October 24, 2016There is truth in every steriotype, read The Bell Curve, this is a commentary.
- Reviewed in the United States on December 29, 2013My review of this book is done with the disadvantage of not having read "The Bell Curve". Therefore, I had to take, with a grain of salt, much of what the contributors to this book state about "TBC". Of course, there are any number of quotes from "TBC", which give some opportunity for deciphering what its authors claimed. Suffice it to say that I, as a non-professional in the social sciences and in statistics, was impressed enough with many of the arguments of the book being reviewed to reach a conclusion that "TBC", in the nature/nurture controversy, took the "nature ball" and ran with it almost as hard as they could, while the contributors to the book being reviewed did largely the opposite -- namely, took the "nurture" stance for almost all they could squeeze out of it. This kind of scenario seems to happen a lot in hot-button and controversial topics, where it seems that an argument either way ends up being polarized to the extent that careful, calm, and cool rationality suffers for lack of application.
While it seems a bit outrageous to argue that individuals within the same ethnicity do not possess greatly varying degrees of intelligence, it is also not at all clear that all ethnic groups should (or do) possess, on average, the same levels of intelligence. Given this quite obvious fact, if great varieties of tests designed to help determine a person's intelligence end up favoring some ethnic groups significantly more than others, then it is highly reasonable to at least suspect that the intellectual levels of disparate ethnic groups might differ significantly -- in this case, I refer to GENETICALLY-BASED intellectual levels. Apparently "TBC" argues strongly for differing levels of innate intelligence in diverse ethnic groups, whereas the book under review here attempts to downplay any such differences as either non-existent or, at least, not worthy of much note.
Surely, any fair and just society should aim to allow every person the maximum opportunity for utilizing their innate gifts for the betterment of the individual and his/her society. However, given the inevitability of great variations in talents, intelligence, athletic prowess, and other potentially desirable gifts, it is unreasonable to expect anything near equality of income and status in the society for every individual. Nevertheless, it would seem harsh and unfair to refuse to apply some of the benefits of the highly gifted to helping out the less intellectually endowed of the society. A just society will surely strive to encourage less talented people to make use of what gifts they do possess, as well as to provide wide and open opportunities for the gifted to maximally actualize their talents. As would be expected with society's finite resources, conflicts between efforts to help out the less gifted and efforts to encourage actualization of the gifts of those who are highly gifted will at times arise. Where to draw the line, whom to exclude from aid and support, and how to most fairly allocate limited resources is always a matter begging for the wisest judgments available.
My reading of the book being reviewed helped me to seriously question whether our society should eliminate services to the poor like Head Start, Food Stamps, etc. to help provide the less gifted with the best opportunities to make something of their lives that a human society can afford. Compassion ought to always be applied by all -- even the government.
This book has some chapters that are far too technical and tedious for an amateur like myself, but I still managed to get enough out of the "easier" chapters to make the book worth my while to read. "Intelligence, Genes, and Success" is recommended for those who wish to take a fairly level-headed and scientific analysis of a set of highly controversial issues -- surrounding what intelligence is, where it comes from, who has it, how it is measured, how it relates to IQ, how much it determines life's outcomes, etc.
- Reviewed in the United States on August 30, 2013Dealing rationally with the inflammable topic of race and intelligence is nearly impossible-- for a simple resaon:
The readers brain is unable-- not unwilling but physically unable-- to take in a fact that proves irrefutably that the brains owner is inferior.
So no matter how convincing is the data-set of The Bell Curve, and no matter how irrefutable the conclusions, the reader whose world view and self esteem these conclusion threaten, simply cannot take in the concept. Cannot, no matter how well educated and rational. The human brain is built this way. Yet this is not mentioned in this book here, nor in any similar books that try to determine whether there is a connection between race / genetics and intelligence. The brains of the very ones whom such a book is aimed at, are physically unable to assimilate its conclusions, and would invent reasons and write reams to prove the conclusions wrong-- just because it would be too, too awful if they were right.
- Reviewed in the United States on January 2, 1999This book has 25 scientific contributors, ostensibly to answer for the Carnegie Commission Task Force on Early Primary Education the question whether the publication of The Bell Curve in 1994 had any scientific merit. This book takes a look at the dataset and reanalyzes much of what Herrnstein and Murry had looked at.
Though it brings more perspectives on the subject, and takes issue with much of what TBC concluded, it does vindicate that TBC is now a serious beginning look at intelligence, genetics, and its impact on the nation. This book says, as so many other researchers have contended, "The Bell Curve is a serious book and is not to be ignored."
However, when reading the book, which I recommend for anyone that is very familiar with the subject, remember that of the 25 contributors, only John B. Carroll was also a signatory to "Mainstream Science on Intelligence: 52 scientists respond to The Bell Curve (12/13/1994) in the Wall Street Journal." This book is put together primarily by left-leaning academics. To balance its message, I would strongly recommend reading Arthur Jensen's book The g Factor: The Science of Mental Ability. So again, read this book but keep in mind it is highly biased.