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The Interrogator: An Education Hardcover – June 28, 2011
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To his friends and neighbors, Glenn L. Carle was a wholesome, stereotypical New England Yankee, a former athlete struggling against incipient middle age, someone always with his nose in an abstruse book. But for two decades Carle broke laws, stole, and lied on a daily basis about nearly everything. “I was almost never who I said I was, or did what I claimed to be doing.” He was a CIA spy. He thrived in an environment of duplicity and ambiguity, flourishing in the gray areas of policy.
The Interrogator is the story of Carle’s most serious assignment, when he was “surged” to become an interrogator in the U.S. Global War on Terror to interrogate a top level detainee at one of the CIA’s notorious black sites overseas. It tells of his encounter with one of the most senior al-Qa’ida detainees the U.S. captured after 9/11, a “ghost detainee” who, the CIA believed, might hold the key to finding Osama bin Ladin.
As Carle’s interrogation sessions progressed though, he began to seriously doubt the operation. Was this man, kidnapped in the Middle East, really the senior al-Qa’ida official the CIA believed he was? Headquarters viewed Carle’s misgivings as naïve troublemaking. Carle found himself isolated, progressively at odds with his institution and his orders. He struggled over how far to push the interrogation, wrestling with whether his actions constituted torture, and with what defined his real duty to his country. Then, in a dramatic twist, headquarters spirited the detainee and Carle to the CIA’s harshest interrogation facility, a place of darkness and fear, which even CIA officers only dared mention in whispers.
A haunting tale of sadness, confusion, and determination, The Interrogator is a shocking and intimate look at the world of espionage. It leads the reader through the underworld of the Global War on Terror, asking us to consider the professional and personal challenges faced by an intelligence officer during a time of war, and the unimaginable ways in which war alters our institutions and American society.
- Print length336 pages
- LanguageEnglish
- PublisherNation Books
- Publication dateJune 28, 2011
- Grade level11 and up
- Reading age13 years and up
- Dimensions6.25 x 1.25 x 9.5 inches
- ISBN-101568586736
- ISBN-13978-1568586731
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“Glenn Carle writes with great verve and lyricism about a decidedly unlyrical moment in the history of the U.S. intelligence community; the decision after 9/11 to take the gloves off when it cane to the detention and interrogation of al Qaeda suspects. As Carle witnesses, the U.S. government’s assumptions about how important those suspects were was sometimes way off base, while their treatment at the hands of American officials often did not measure up to the high ethical standards the United States wishes to uphold as a country. Carle tells the story from inside the CIA’s “war on terror” and he does it with great honesty and realism; he has the eye of the novelist and the analytical skills of the senior CIA officer he was. That makes “The Interrogator” an engrossing read, and also an important book.”
David Ignatius, columnist for The Washington Post and author of Body of Lies
Glenn Carle’s "The Interrogator" is a remarkable memoir--for its searing personal honesty, for its portrait of the amoral secret bureaucracy of the CIA, and most of all for its revelation of how a decent American became part of a process that we can only call torture."
Gilles Kepel, Professor, Institute of Political Studies, Paris, author of Beyond Terror and
About the Author
Glenn l. Carle was a member of the CIA’s Clandestine Service for twenty-three years and retired in March 2007 as deputy national intelligence officer for transnational threats. He lives in Washington, DC.
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- Publisher : Nation Books; 1st edition (June 28, 2011)
- Language : English
- Hardcover : 336 pages
- ISBN-10 : 1568586736
- ISBN-13 : 978-1568586731
- Reading age : 13 years and up
- Grade level : 11 and up
- Item Weight : 1.3 pounds
- Dimensions : 6.25 x 1.25 x 9.5 inches
- Best Sellers Rank: #3,033,852 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
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Glenn Carle was a career CIA officer, who worked on four continents and retired in 2007 as Deputy National Intelligence Officer for Transnational Threats--terrorism.
His last major operation was to interrogate one of the top members of al-Qa'ida. But Carle found that the detainee was not the senior member of al-Qa'ida that the CIA thought, and Carle rejected the detention and enhanced interrogation policies of the War on Terror; he considered them un-American and immoral, and he found that they do not work. His book, The Interrogator, is an expose of the dark side of the War on Terror, and his struggle with the most difficult question a patriot can face: what do you do when your government tells you to do something that is morally abhorrent?
Carle is from an old Yankee family, whose ancestors were spies in the American Revolution, and fought in almost every war in American history. He grew up playing hockey on ponds in Massachusetts, and found the lessons he learned on the ice surprisingly relevant to his career in the CIA. His wife sometimes thinks that he reads too much; and she is right.
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CIA censorship of this book means almost every relevant detail is redacted, and Carle's argument cannot cite facts, and perhaps got more argumentative and even redundant over time. If The Nation Books has editors, they did Carle no visible service. The CIA censors' office provides a strong blurb for the book, so we can infer mutual respect and even a bit of sympathy.
Still, Carle as a person shines out - how he tells his Mom about his job, even how he insults a junior officer who through fear cannot stop playing with his weapon.
Le Carre used "the cold" to describe the spy's refusal of ordinary human empathy, affection. It seemed a crown on the moral equivalence if not squalor he describes elegantly. Carle's moral vision is wildly different from Le Carre's, and that informed patriotism makes his moral judgments personal and powerful. If he was ever cold to the agents he rercruited and handled, he certainly was not cold to Captus, let alone projecting onto Captus the customary torturer's self-loathing projected onto the victim.
IMHO, Carle built a human relationship with a prisoner called Captus. A very odd friendship, even for a handler and agent, but the personal warmth seems to drive Carle's passion, if not his judgment, that Captus was unjustly kidnapped, tortured and then held, and then it informed Carle's patriotic, strongly loyal opposition to CIA policy. Carle denies - three times, with no cock's crow - that he leaked the Captus matter several years later, but the CIA perhaps was unpersuaded. Myself, I think I believe Carle.
This personal, agent-case officer empathy informed by 20 years experience in a tough school, informs Cale's view - and his belief he was better able to judge than any superior at CIA - that Captus was innocent of terrorism (as if he'd sold Ussama a railroad ticket), even if Captus indeed had critical intelligence about al Qaeda, some of which he withheld throughout Carle's interrogation (e.g., the ticket taker might be able to describe the agents who bought tickets, and tell us where and when they would arrive and perhaps set off a bomb). Carle's own experience of simulated torture (SERE training) is another vivid strand of his narrative, perhaps his empathy.
The argument is a bit hard to summarize, with all facts censored, once you strip out patriotism and rage at injustice and simply bad tradecraft. W W reviews this book an probably gives the flavor of it.
If Carle knows anything about international law or US habeas corpus or Congressional oversight of the CIA, he hides it. He apparently read and agreed with the Joint Congressional Intelligence Committee review of these matters - John Kerry and John Edwards each signed the unanimous report - but when praising Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame he does not mention that the report shredded Wilson's integrity.
I confess myself wondering if Carle sees a continuing "delusion" and fatally bad judgment at work today, when his colleagues select targets for Hellfire missiles. Even if they identify a guilty terrorist, not a ticket seller or mental defective, the targets are homes to extended families. There is no due process for the target, let alone his family, before or after.
Still, a memoir is about a person, and Glenn Carle shines out a quite a fellow. If it was not likely to reinforce the CIA opposition to his clearance, I'd think about using The Telegraph reporting to prepare an online "fill in the redactions" piece, then daydream about drinking coffee with him some fine day.
Carle's book is a personal account, one view, one perspective - and that is what makes it so influential. Carle is not just anyone speaking his mind, he's an insider, an experienced CIA operative, someone who saw and lived through what he did because the agency chose him for it -- that is the context in which he finds courage to challenge the views of his colleagues, his organization, and to a great extent, of his/our society.
Carle takes us on an emotional ride and confronts us with the discomforts of balancing individuality with being a member of society (what does it mean to be an American? "Whose flag do you serve?"), of being an obedient agent and a patriotic individual with a deep sense of personal integrity. He challenges the notions of patriotism, of what is justifiable, and of personal duty. One may disagree with him, but one cannot but respect Carle for raising the questions.
The choice to leave space-holders for the parts redacted by the CIA, contrary to one reviewer's comments, is not "annoying." It represents the reality and emphasizes the pressure in which Carle found the courage to speak out. This is not a fun fiction novel, but a serious and sobering account of a reality on the very edge of inter-societal conflict, which rarely reaches the ears or minds of mere mortals.
A small note on the editing of the book. I completely agree with Toquam's comments (and could not have expressed it better). The book could use some editing - but only in order to help the reader focus on its spirit and not be jarred by an occasional grammatical awkwardness and impassionate repetition of certain concepts and thoughts. Sometimes, however, I felt that the linguistic and stylistic imperfections juxtaposed with the passages redacted by the CIA made Carle's accounts that much more real and powerful.
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The author is an educated person, fond of reading himself. He struggled to publish his book and write his story. It puts the things into a personal perspective and stays objective the same time. I appreciate the effort and do not deny that it may be eye opening for some. Not for me. Maybe realism is just this dull. Like the dusty wastelands of the middle east.
This is not a fictional page turner, but his experiences and perspective are worth the effort to read. I'm happy to recommend this book. It makes a valuable contribution to an essential debate.





