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KORG DS-10 Plus
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- Exchange sounds and songs and play with up to eight units simultaneously through a wireless communications link.
- Improved professional-grade music tool software for Nintendo DSi/DS at a greater cost performance value than the original KORG DS-10.
- Optimized for DSi with 12-voice polyphony and to double the power of the original KORG DS-10: 4 analog synthesizer tracks and 8 dedicated drum tracks, increase the total number of tracks from 6 to 12 (DSi only).
- Song mode revamped for expanded song composition and real-time performance. Per track Mute/Solo built into the Song Mode, and Edit/Play enabled for all modes to further improve real-time performance (available for DSi/DS).
- Delay, chorus, and flanger sound effects available from the mixing board, and three different note-entry modes: Touch Screen control, keyboard screen, and matrix screen.
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| ASIN | B002SW7WAY |
|---|---|
| Release date | February 16, 2010 |
| Customer Reviews |
3.7 out of 5 stars |
| Best Sellers Rank | #113,410 in Video Games (See Top 100 in Video Games) #1,647 in Nintendo DS Games |
| Pricing | The strikethrough price is the List Price. Savings represents a discount off the List Price. |
| Product Dimensions | 4.87 x 5.45 x 0.61 inches; 3.2 Ounces |
| Binding | Video Game |
| Rated | Everyone |
| Item model number | 81029 |
| Is Discontinued By Manufacturer | Yes |
| Item Weight | 3.19 ounces |
| Manufacturer | Xseed |
| Date First Available | October 14, 2009 |
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The KORG DS-10 Plus is an enhanced version of the revolutionary KORG DS-10 synthesizer software that was released to critical and retail acclaim for the Nintendo DS in late 2008. The original KORG DS-10 music-creation software, which combined the superior interface of the Nintendo DS with the functionality of the famous MS-10 synthesizer, has been optimized to essentially double the power of the original when used with the Nintendo DSi. The sound sources in the KORG DS-10 Plus come from KORG - one of the world's top musical instrument producers - and no effort was spared in creating these ultra-high-quality sounds. The Nintendo DSi/DS Touch Screen controls are used to the fullest to provide unsurpassed feel and operability. This innovative musical tool is perfect for aspiring musicians and professionals alike. In addition to the four analog synth simulators and drum module, a 12-track/16-step sequencer enables precise control and provides a wide range of musical possibilities (only two analog synthesizers and six tracks available when used with regular Nintendo DS). Up to eight units can be connected and played together through a wireless link for a jam session or to exchange songs. This and other features make the Nintendo DSi/DS and KORG DS-10 Plus almost limitless in their application – improved portable music creation performance at an unparalleled value.
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First of all, I'm assuming anyone reading this review knows what they're getting into. There aren't a whole lot of changes in this revision of the DS-10, so if you've already used that one you know what to expect. If not, I've read plenty of reviews that don't quite "get" the DS-10, finding it limited as a loop-based synthesizer lacking polyphonic sounds and a full sequencer. If you were hoping to find those kinds of features, you should probably consider just buying an actual factual piece of audio hardware or a soft synth for your computer. If you're anything like me, the so-called "limitations" of the DS-10 are what make it fun to make music on... with enough creativity and practice you can make a single synth or drum sound sound like several disparate sounds, and you can find clever ways to create transitions between the various patterns so it sounds like more than simple looping electronic music. I love the challenge of trying to get more sounds out of fewer options (even on my hardware synths). I also love that I can work on my music on my daily walk to/from my office... you'd be hard-pressed to find ANY other software or hardware synthesizer that allows you that much freedom.
That being said, what's new in the DS-10 Plus to distinguish it from owning two copies of its predecessor? The new dual mode allows you to load up a different song in each "deck", so that you now have 4 synths instead of 2, and 8 drum tracks instead of 4. You still need to remember to save each song separately if you make changes, but it's pretty easy to tell which deck is currently selected, and being able to use the R button to quickly switch between decks is incredibly convenient. Otherwise, not a lot has changed since the first DS-10 (it seems like they could have at least improved the presentation), but it turns out that the greatest strength of this new version, as well as its greatest weakness, lies in the revamped song mode.
In the original DS-10, song mode was basically worthless. You organize your patterns into a single composition and then listen to them play. You can't change things on the fly, and you can't program anything other than the order of patterns in, so you'd might as well just stick to pattern mode and do it yourself. In the DS-10 Plus, not only are you given the option to program in mutes for every sound (which at first felt like cheating to me after spending so many months practicing my songs and muting sounds manually as I switch patterns), but you're free to move around to any of the normal editing screens and change up your sounds, play along on the keyboard, alter the master effect, and mess with the mixer, all while having the song continue playing the patterns in the order you specified. This gives you a ridiculous amount of freedom in your compositions. Previously, switching back and forth between two or more patterns while simultaneously trying to fade out a single instrument was a nightmare that required fast reflexes and coordination. Now you can focus on just the one instrument fading out while song mode does the rest for you in the background. Being able to mute or unmute several tracks simultaneously is also a huge advantage over the DS-10.
So how about that greatest weakness that I mentioned? Well, for one, you can only make a song last at most 200 measures (using dual mode). But more disappointing that than is that you can't have different patterns playing on each deck. I have a song that I started on my dual DS Lite setup where on one system I continuously go back and forth between two patterns, while on the other system, the main melody of the song is carried through a progression of patterns. Think of it like this:
system 1: [A1] > [A2] > [A3] > [A4]
system 2: [B1] > [B2] > [B1] > [B2]
I was so excited to hear about dual mode on the DS-10 Plus, thinking that it would save me a LOT of work of having to carry around two DSes to achieve this. Unfortunately, it's not the case. When you select a pattern on one deck, you're limited to hearing the corresponding pattern on the other deck. So you're stuck with this:
deck 1: [A1] > [A2] > [A3] > [A4]
deck 2: [B1] > [B2] > [B3] > [B4]
Since I own more DSes than any one person really needs, I can work on two songs simultaneously in dual mode on my DS-10 Plus, and then copy one of the songs to a DS-10 so that I can perform the song using two DS systems. It's not much different than the old method I had worked out, but it is definitely nice to hear both songs playing on a single DS so I can really make sure everything sounds good together.
That disappointment is by no means enough to detract from the improvements. If you already own a DS-10 and were thinking of picking up a second copy, then there's no reason not to upgrade. Even if you don't own a DSi, the vastly improved song mode is a huge step above its predecessor (of course, if you do own a DSi, it's even more useful). If you want a KORG DS-10 but haven't tried out the original, then there's also no reason to not get the DS-10 Plus. Finally, if you don't think a loop-based monophonic synthesizer is for you then good luck finding a more powerful yet equally portable synthesizer for such a low price. I'm sure KORG could have taken the time to put some more useful features in this update, but still, for what the KORG DS-10 Plus is, it's an amazing and powerful piece of audio software that is well worth the money.
"so couldn't I just run a rom in an emulator and record my song threw the emulator?" the answer is yes you could. BUT, it is not authentic because your computer does not have the same soundchip that the ds has. So at best the computer can only emulate that sound and it would not be authentic. (it's kind of funny though because the ds itself is emulating the synths.)
anyway, about the korg ds. if you are familiar with how synthesizer work then you will feel right at home molding your sound. you get 2 synths , 2 VCO's and a synth patch for each synth (and for each pattern) plus a drum machine. you can change the sound of the synth in each pattern and you can change the sound of the drums. but you can not change the sound of the drums in each pattern. so once you are happy with your kick, snare, hi hat and crash, they will remain the same sound throughout the entire song. (you CAN change the drum sequence for each pattern though.) also there are 3 effects, flanger, chorus, and delay. but...once you apply a FX to say the drums, it goes on everything within the drums. (it goes on the snare, kick, hi hat and crash. you cannot apply the FX to only one part of the drums like only on the snare.) also once you apply the effect you can't remove it on other patterns. so you either have it on the entire track or don't have it at all.
applying your notes to each pattern can be done 2 different ways. either play by hand (with Stylus I mean) and they will be recorded into the piano roll (you can manually re-edit them in the piano after you record) or just edit them in the piano roll.
also included is a chaos pad. this is another way to add effects or arpeggiate your synth and you can choose witch key it will play in.you can do this to each synth within each pattern.
Also there is a mixer BUT, you are better off recording each part of your song into your daw and the EQ ing everything from in there. For example, first you want to record the drum track, mix them as best you can on the ds, then play the song and solo the drums and record into your daw. (or solo each part of the drums, like first the kick then the snare, then the hats....this will give you even better control over EQing) Then play the song again and solo your lead synth, recording it into your daw. so on and so forth. then when every layer is recorded into your daw, you can do a better EQing of each layer. and then heck, your are not limited to only two synths because you can record any number synths or hi hats or whatever you want and then layer them in.
Oh, I almost forgot something important. You DO NOT want to plug your ds directly into your sound card. In other words do not go from your ds "headphone jack" into your computers "line in". This will sound really, really bad and I read that doing this can even damage your computer. So, there are a few things you can do. you can buy a cheap usb mixer and plug the ds into the mixer with RCA cables then the mixer into your computer, and when you record into your daw it should recognize the usb input. or you can buy something else called "Behringer guitar link usb interface." for that you also need a 1/4 headphone jack adapter, which goes into the ds headphone jack. and a guitar cable that goes into the jack then in the the usb device. <---That is what I do and it works perfect.
well, I guess that's the basic of everything you should know. If this all sounds confusing don't feel discouraged. Its pretty easy to understand how everything works once you get started. if you already use a daw like fruity loops or reaper or any daw, then you already have a good running start on how everything works.
In conclusion, I highly, HIGHLY recommend you buy this product. even if your not really into electronic music and you might just wanna play around with this, because who knows where this could lead you.
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Seller didn't bother with original box but not that it matters, keep save states on a flash cart so can export/save/backup my music.





