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Kill Anything That Moves: The Real American War in Vietnam (American Empire Project) Kindle Edition
Based on classified documents and first-person interviews, a startling history of the American war on Vietnamese civilians
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Winner of the Ridenhour Prize for Reportorial Distinction
Americans have long been taught that events such as the notorious My Lai massacre were isolated incidents in the Vietnam War, carried out by just a few "bad apples." But as award-winning journalist and historian Nick Turse demonstrates in this groundbreaking investigation, violence against Vietnamese noncombatants was not at all exceptional during the conflict. Rather, it was pervasive and systematic, the predictable consequence of official orders to "kill anything that moves."
Drawing on more than a decade of research into secret Pentagon archives and extensive interviews with American veterans and Vietnamese survivors, Turse reveals for the first time the workings of a military machine that resulted in millions of innocent civilians killed and wounded-what one soldier called "a My Lai a month." Devastating and definitive, Kill Anything That Moves finally brings us face-to-face with the truth of a war that haunts America to this day.
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“An indispensable, paradigm-shifting new history of the war...All these decades later, Americans still haven't drawn the right lesson from Vietnam.” ―San Francisco Chronicle
“A searing and meticulously documented book...A damning account of the horrors the United States inflicted on civilians.” ―Financial Times
“Harrowing.” ―The New York Review of Books
“A powerful case…With his urgent but highly readable style, Turse delves into the secret history of U.S.-led atrocities. He has brought to his book an impressive trove of new research--archives explored and eyewitnesses interviewed in the United States and Vietnam. With superb narrative skill, he spotlights a troubling question: Why, with all the evidence collected by the military at the time of the war, were atrocities not prosecuted?” ―Washington Post
“There have been many memorable accounts of the terrible things done in Vietnam--memoirs, histories, documentaries, and movies. But Nick Turse has given us a fresh holistic work that stands alone for its blending of history and journalism, for the integrity of research brought to life through the diligence of first-person interviews....Here is a powerful message for us today--a reminder of what war really costs.” ―Bill Moyers, Moyers & Company
“In Kill Anything That Moves, Nick Turse has for the first time put together a comprehensive picture, written with mastery and dignity, of what American forces actually were doing in Vietnam. The findings disclose an almost unspeakable truth....Like a tightening net, the web of stories and reports drawn from myriad sources coalesces into a convincing, inescapable portrait of this war--a portrait that, as an American, you do not wish to see; that, having seen, you wish you could forget, but that you should not forget.” ―Jonathan Schell, The Nation
“A masterpiece... Kill Anything That Moves is not only one of the most important books ever written about the Vietnam conflict but provides readers with an unflinching account of the nature of modern industrial warfare....Turse, finally, grasps that the trauma that plagues most combat veterans is a result not only of what they witnessed or endured, but what they did.” ―Chris Hedges, Truthdig
“Nick Turse's explosive, groundbreaking reporting uncovers the horrifying truth.” ―Vanity Fair
“Explosive… A painful yet compelling look at the horrors of war.” ―Parade
“Astounding…Meticulous, extraordinary, and oddly moving.” ―Bookforum
“Meticulously documented, utterly persuasive, this book is a shattering and dismaying read.” ―Minneapolis Star Tribune
“If you are faint-hearted, you might want to keep some smelling salts nearby when you read it. It's that bad...The truth hurts. This is an important book.” ―Dayton Daily News
“Kill Anything That Moves argues, persuasively and chillingly, that the mass rape, torture, mutilation and slaughter of Vietnamese civilians was not an aberration--not a one-off atrocity called My Lai--but rather the systematized policy of the American war machine. These are devastating charges, and they demand answers because Turse has framed his case with deeply researched, relentless authority...There is no doubt in my mind that Kill Anything That Moves belongs on the very highest shelf of books on the Vietnam War.” ―The Millions
“In the sobering Kill Anything That Moves, Nick Turse provides an exhaustive account of how thousands upon thousands of innocent, unarmed South Vietnamese civilians were senselessly killed by a military that equated corpses with results.…Kill Anything That Moves is a staggering reminder that war has its gruesome subplots hidden underneath the headlines--but they're even sadder when our heroes create them.” ―Bookpage
“An in-depth take on a horrific war…A detailed, well-documented account.” ―Publishers Weekly
“This book is an overdue and powerfully detailed account of widespread war crimes--homicide and torture and mutilation and rape--committed by American soldiers over the course of our military engagement in Vietnam. Nick Turse's research and reportage is based in part on the U.S. military's own records, reports, and transcripts, many of them long hidden from public scrutiny. Kill Anything That Moves is not only a compendium of pervasive and illegal and sickening savagery toward Vietnamese civilians, but it is also a record of repetitive deceit and cover-ups on the part of high ranking officers and officials. In the end, I hope, Turse's book will become a hard-to-avoid, hard-to-dismiss corrective to the very common belief that war crimes and tolerance for war crimes were mere anomalies during our country's military involvement in Vietnam.” ―Tim O'Brien, author of The Things They Carried
“Nick Turse reminds us again, in this painful and important book, why war should always be a last resort, and especially wars that have little to do with American national security. We failed, as Turse makes clear, to deal after the Vietnam War with the murders that took place, and today--four decades later--the lessons have yet to be learned. We still prefer kicking down doors to talking.” ―Seymour Hersh, staff writer, The New Yorker
“This deeply disturbing book provides the fullest documentation yet of the brutality and ugliness that marked America's war in Vietnam. No doubt some will charge Nick Turse with exaggeration or overstatement. Yet the evidence he has assembled is irrefutable. With the publication of Kill Anything That Moves, the claim that My Lai was a one-off event becomes utterly unsustainable.” ―Andrew J. Bacevich, Colonel, U.S. Army (Ret.), and author of Washington Rules: America's Path To Permanent War
“American patriots will appreciate Nick Turse's meticulously documented book, which for the first time reveals the real war in Vietnam and explains why it has taken so long to learn the whole truth.” ―James Bradley, author of Flags of Our Fathers
“Meticulously researched, Kill Anything That Moves is the most comprehensive account to date of the war crimes committed by U.S. forces in Vietnam and the efforts made at the highest levels of the military to cover them up. It's an important piece of history.” ―Frances FitzGerald, author of Fire in the Lake: The Vietnamese and the Americans in Vietnam
“In this deeply researched and provocative book Nick Turse returns us to Vietnam to raise anew the classic dilemmas of warfare and civil society. My Lai was not the full story of atrocities in Vietnam, and honestly facing the moral questions inherent in a ‘way of war' is absolutely necessary to an effective military strategy. Turse documents a shortfall in accountability during the Vietnam War that should be disturbing to every reader.” ―John Prados, author of Vietnam: The History of an Unwinnable War, 1945–1975
“Nick Turse's Kill Anything That Moves is essential reading, a powerful and moving account of the dark heart of the Vietnam War: the systematic killing of civilians, not as aberration but as standard operating procedure. Until this history is acknowledged it will be repeated, one way or another, in the wars the U.S. continues to fight.” ―Marilyn Young, author of The Vietnam Wars, 1945–1990
“Nick Turse has done more than anyone to demonstrate--and document--what should finally be incontrovertible: American atrocities in Vietnam were not infrequent and inadvertent, but the commonplace and inevitable result of official U.S. military policy. And he does it with a narrative that is gripping and deeply humane.” ―Christian Appy, author of Patriots: The Vietnam War Remembered From All Sides
“No book I have read in decades has so shaken me, as an American. Turse lays open the ground-level reality of a war that was far more atrocious than Americans at home have ever been allowed to know. He exposes official policies that encouraged ordinary American soldiers and airmen to inflict almost unimaginable horror and suffering on ordinary Vietnamese, followed by official cover-up as tenacious as Turse's own decade of investigative effort against it. Kill Anything That Moves is obligatory reading for Americans, because its implications for the likely scale of atrocities and civilian casualties inflicted and covered up in our latest wars are inescapable and staggering.” ―Daniel Ellsberg, author of Secrets: A Memoir of Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers
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Kill Anything That Moves
The Real American War In Vietnam
By Nick TursePicador
Copyright © 2013 Nick TurseAll rights reserved.
ISBN: 978-1-250-04506-5
Contents
Title Page,Copyright Notice,
Dedication,
Map,
Introduction: An Operation, Not an Aberration,
1. The Massacre at Trieu Ai,
2. A System of Suffering,
3. Overkill,
4. A Litany of Atrocities,
5. Unbounded Misery,
6. The Bummer, the "Gook-Hunting" General, and the Butcher of the Delta,
7. Where Have All the War Crimes Gone?,
Epilogue: Wandering Ghosts,
Photographs,
Afterword to the 2014 Edition,
Notes,
Acknowledgments,
Index,
The American Empire Project,
Praise for Kill Anything That Moves,
Also by Nick Turse,
About the Author,
Copyright,
CHAPTER 1
THE MASSACRE AT TRIEU AI
In 2008, visiting Trieu Ai village in Quang Tri, the northernmost province in South Vietnam, meant driving down a long, winding, rutted road of crushed rock and burnt-orange mud. It was slow going, as the car rocked and pitched past shattered concrete buildings, through forests, across fields. The last mile or two had to be traversed on foot, though the worst to worry about, while slogging through the mire, was losing a shoe. Forty years before, the Americans trudging through this area had far more to fear.
On the night of October 21, 1967, members of Company B, 1st Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment, in the midst of a long, grueling patrol, found themselves on the outskirts of Trieu Ai. On a hill overlooking the village, one of the Americans tripped a booby trap. A well-liked marine from the company's 1st Platoon was killed, three others were injured, and the embittered, frustrated troops hunkered down, awaiting a medical evacuation—"medevac"—helicopter.
It was a commonplace story. Vietnamese revolutionary forces, decisively outgunned by their adversaries, relied heavily on mines and other booby traps, as well as sniper fire and ambushes. Their way of war was generally to strike swiftly and immediately withdraw. Unable to deal with an enemy that overwhelmingly dictated the time, place, and duration of combat, U.S. forces took to destroying whatever they could manage. Often, civilians paid the price.
Soon after the booby trap struck his men, Lieutenant Robert Maynard held a briefing with Lieutenant John Bailey and Sergeant Don Allen of the 1st Platoon. Maynard assured them, Allen later reported, that they would get "first crack at the ville." He remembered the orders vividly: "We would take our platoons and move through the ville. When we reached the other side 'there was nothing to be left alive or unburned, as far as the children goes, let our conscience be our guide.'"
When Lieutenant Bailey, who had been slightly wounded by the booby trap, returned from the briefing, he too told his platoon that they were about to be sent into the village. Lance Corporal Olaf Skibsrud recalled the orders passed on to him: "They said that we were going to kill everyone in the ville and burn it down." Lance Corporal Eddie Kelly remembered Bailey's orders as "search-and-destroy everything in the village." And rifleman Edward Johnson recalled a command similar to so many others handed down by Americans all over South Vietnam, year after year: "We was going to kill anything that we see and anything that moved."
* * *
The marines who would need to call on their consciences concerning the children of Trieu Ai were not that far from childhood themselves. Indeed, most U.S. troops who served in Vietnam were in their teens or barely out of them. Whether they had been drafted or had volunteered (often to avoid the uncertainty of the draft), they had gone off to basic training as little more than boys.
The boot camp experience was consciously organized to reduce recruits to a psychological state akin to early childhood. Their previous eighteen or so years of learning were to be stripped away through shock, separation, and physical and psychological stress, creating a tabula rasa on which a military imprint could be stamped. For eight weeks of up to seventeen-hour days, every detail of their lives was prescribed, every action relearned in a military manner, all stringently enforced by the omnipresent authority of the drill instructor. As historian Joanna Bourke puts it, a deft combination of "depersonalization, uniforms, lack of privacy, forced social relationships, tight schedules, lack of sleep, disorientation followed by rites of reorganization according to military codes, arbitrary rules and strict punishment" was brought to bear to accomplish the task.
Frequent punishments, meted out for infractions as simple as not beginning and ending every sentence with "sir," were crucial to the process. They consisted of both psychological debasement and physical suffering—everything from being forced to eat garbage to being exercised to the point of collapse. At the same time, everyday training itself could be an agonizing experience. Even the best athletes were often overtaxed by the grueling workouts. "Simple exhaustion," as the historian Christian Appy points out, was a "key factor in explaining the willingness of recruits to follow orders" since they soon "learned that disobedience of any kind only brought more pain."
Recruits were also indoctrinated into a culture of violence and brutality, which emphasized above all a readiness to kill without compunction. Like many soldiers, the Vietnam-era draftee Peter Milord told Appy that at first he only mouthed the violent chants during his army training—"Kill! Kill! Kill! To kill without mercy is the spirit of the bayonet!"—but later found himself being overtaken by the ethos. "I didn't become a robot," Milord said, "but you can get so close to being one it's frightening." Another veteran put it this way: "For eleven months I was trained to kill. For eight weeks, during basic training, I screamed 'kill,' 'kill.' So when I got to Vietnam I was ready to kill." Still another told me that after having chanted "kill, kill, kill" through basic training, advanced infantry training, and long-range reconnaissance patrol instruction, he felt absolutely "brainwashed."
Remorseless killing was additionally legitimized by the explicit racism that suffused the training. As army veteran Wayne Smith remembered, "The drill instructors never ever called the Vietnamese, 'Vietnamese.' They called them dinks, gooks, slopes, slants, rice-eaters, everything that would take away humanity ... That they were less than human was clearly the message." Similarly, veteran Haywood Kirkland described his experience this way.
As soon as [you] hit boot camp ... they tried to change your total personality ... Right away they told us not to call them Vietnamese. Call everybody gooks, dinks. They told us when you go over in Vietnam, you gonna be face to face with Charlie, the Viet Cong. They were like animals, or something other than human ... They wouldn't allow you to talk about them as if they were people. They told us they're not to be treated with any type of mercy ... That's what they engraved into you. That killer instinct.
This attitude was reinforced once soldiers arrived "in-country." Many recall immediately being told that, whatever the official policy, in reality all Vietnamese were to be distrusted, that even women and small children were possible foes or outright enemies—a particularly sinister attitude in the context of a war that was supposedly being fought to protect Vietnamese civilians from communist aggression. A child, GIs believed, might throw a grenade or be strapped with explosives. An elderly woman could help to construct booby traps. Though official military publications aimed at troops headed for Vietnam stressed discrimination between civilians and guerrillas, some of them still suggested that everyone in a conical hat or the loose-fitting Vietnamese clothes that Americans called "black pajamas" was a potential adversary.
One veteran told me that his training made it clear that the "enemy is anything with slant eyes who lives in the village. It doesn't make any difference if it's a woman or child." An officer summarized the prevailing mind-set: "So a few women and children get killed ... Teach 'em a damned good lesson. They're all VC or at least helping them ... You can't convert them, only kill them."
Among the many reasons for this suspicion was that, in village after village, U.S. patrols regularly encountered women and children plus a few old men, but almost no military-age males. "All through the whole entire time that I spent out in the field, I could literally count the amount of men or boys that we saw," one veteran who spent a year in combat told me. "You go into a village, and there was never a man in a village. Never," said another. To Americans, the reason was obvious: the "missing" men, all the village's sons and husbands, were Viet Cong guerrillas. This was, of course, one definite possibility. But it was also quite possible that the men were serving in the U.S.-allied South Vietnamese forces; or were draft dodgers, hiding from armies of both sides; or were off working in a distant rice paddy, market, or town, trying to earn a living. In any case, most older boys and young men knew to flee whenever U.S. or South Vietnamese troops arrived, since they were prime targets for conscription, arrest, or execution. Women with children and elders couldn't move as fast and stood a somewhat better chance of being spared, so they were often left behind.
Many U.S. soldiers were also suspicious because South Vietnamese villagers always seemed to know where to walk to avoid VC booby traps. This wasn't really true; civilians were also, in fact, killed or wounded by such weapons. But to the soldiers, the fact that the peasants didn't warn them about these dangers was more clear evidence that the locals were supporting the VC, if not members themselves.
The soldiers also had trouble sorting out who was who. Troops often got only fleeting glimpses of figures dressed in the loose-fitting "black pajamas"—which, in the countryside, were actually worn by men and women, young and old, civilians and guerrillas alike. From a distance, a black-clad female farmer with a hoe could be indistinguishable from a male fighter with a rifle. Unable to readily tell friend from foe, and often unwilling to take the risk of trying to do so, many troops simply decided to fire on anyone they saw. And they often did so with the tacit support of or on explicit orders from superiors.
It was illegal to order the killing of unarmed villagers, no matter whom they supported in the war. But illegal orders were not uncommon, and how soldiers should react to them was, at best, unclear. During boot camp or in-country instruction, many soldiers were given a short lesson—generally about an hour long—on the laws of war, but it paled in comparison to the weeks of training that suggested a very different standard operating procedure. As the psychiatrist and war crimes expert Robert Lifton notes, there was "a striking contrast between the formal instruction (given rotely if at all) to kill only military adversaries, and the informal message (loud and clear) to kill just about everyone."
What's more, basic training emphasized that obedience to commanders was paramount. Using an instructional outline in the army's field manual, a chaplain would often put forward an Orwellian-sounding concept: "The freest soldier is the soldier who willingly submits to authority." Invoking both honor and self-interest, the chaplain would tell recruits, "When you obey a lawful command you need not fear, nor worry." However, no clear definition of an unlawful order was offered, and young recruits were pressed to exhibit simpleminded obedience. Nor did they receive any specialized training regarding the added responsibilities and moral complexities of fighting a guerrilla war in villages filled with civilians.
Meanwhile, the young officers to whom these recruits were to show blind obedience, men like Lieutenants Maynard and Bailey at Trieu Ai, had often themselves received exceptionally lackluster instruction in the laws of war. In 1965, the reporter and historian Bernard Fall surveyed American small-unit commanders in Vietnam and found that few had anything but "the vaguest idea" about the 1949 Geneva Conventions. Some even argued that, contrary to the laws of war, "VC were all 'traitors' and thus could be shot out of hand" after being taken prisoner.
In 1967, Fall's findings were validated in a study of junior officers at the U.S. Army Intelligence School at Fort Holabird, Maryland, which found that even at this specialized training center there were students who showed "a lack of understanding of the provisions of the Geneva Conventions pertaining to the treatment of prisoners of war." That same year, another official army report noted that even after receiving instruction on the proper treatment of prisoners, fully half the students in a class of officers-in-training about to graduate from the army's Officer Candidate School at Fort Benning, Georgia, told officials they would mistreat a "prisoner of war to obtain information"—a clear violation of the laws of war. Twenty percent blithely stated that they would readily kill prisoners as a matter of expediency if their unit was ambushed.
In a similar vein, more than 60 percent of army officers surveyed in 1969 said they would employ torture or the threat of it to force prisoners to talk during interrogations. That study also found that roughly 20 percent of captains and 25 percent of lieutenants and warrant officers believed they could legally carry out summary executions of civilians caught spying or setting booby traps.
This situation supposedly improved in the wake of the 1969 My Lai revelations, when a new emphasis on laws-of-war training was allegedly implemented. In 1971, however, the reporter William Greider visited a class filled with young second lieutenants at Fort Benning. He watched as the instructor spelled out a scenario in which an enemy machine gunner causes six U.S. casualties but then stops firing and surrenders, walking forward, unarmed, with his hands over his head. "What do you do?" the instructor asked. "In loud unison," Greider noted, "the 200 students instantly chorused their response: 'Shoot him! Shoot him!'"—even though the Geneva Conventions explicitly prohibit violence against adversaries who have laid down their arms.
Often, there was no relevant instruction in the laws of war as they related to the way Americans actually fought the conflict in Vietnam. One of the crimes detailed in the U.S. military's formal investigation of the My Lai massacre, for example, was "the burning of dwellings." But for years before and after the massacre, homes, hamlets, and whole villages were regularly torched by U.S. troops—most of the time on the orders of officers—for a variety of reasons. Sometimes Americans burned homes where they found hidden war matériel or enemy propaganda literature. At other times they burned houses or hamlets in reprisal for a nearby booby trap, or if they took sniper fire, or simply because they were angry, frustrated, and looking to strike back at any Vietnamese people they could find.
Whole villages might also be set aflame as a matter of policy, to drive people from an area and thereby deny guerrillas access to food, support, and recruits. The idea was to separate the general population from the guerrillas in the most literal way possible. After being forcibly removed, villagers would often be sent to a government-run concentration area. Some of these were "New Life" hamlets—artificial villages surrounded by barbed wire and located far from the inhabitants' own fields, homes, and ancestral burial grounds. Other villagers wound up in one of the South Vietnamese government's many refugee camps, overcrowded and unsanitary stretches of barren land where dispossessed, unemployed, and hopeless peasants were expected to wait out the war in squalor.
* * *
Trieu Ai—a farming village where locals raised chickens, ducks, and cows, and supplemented Vietnam's ubiquitous rice paddies with plots of cassava and sweet potatoes—was among the thousands of villages in Quang Tri province that were attacked by the Americans. It was regularly blasted by bombs and artillery fire, and just a few days before the arrival of Company B much of the "ville" had been burned by U.S. troops. Trieu Ai's surviving villagers were then relocated to a concentration area.
The younger men and older boys from Trieu Ai were forced to remain in the refugee camp, but on the afternoon of October 21, the village's women, young children, and older men were allowed to travel back to Trieu Ai for twenty-four hours to retrieve whatever belongings they could. After a trek across four miles of rugged, cratered terrain, the former residents collected what could be salvaged and went to sleep in the only place available—the underground shelters that they had dug for protection from the frequent artillery shelling and bombing in the area. Such shelters were common all across the country throughout the war years. Some were nothing more than big, crude holes gouged out of hard earth. Others were A-framed structures with wooden support beams. As the years went by, villagers would build ever more complex bunkers, Lor Z-shaped with angled walls to provide protection from grenades, and some families even procured metal struts to provide extra stability.
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Nick Turse is a journalist, historian, and the author of Kill Anything that Moves: The Real American War in Vietnam. Turse's work has appeared in the Los Angeles Times, the San Francisco Chronicle, and The Nation, among other publications. His investigations of U.S. war crimes in Vietnam have gained him a Ridenhour Prize for Reportorial Distinction, a Guggenheim Fellowship, and a fellowship at Harvard University’s Radcliffe Institute for Advanced Study.
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- Reviewed in the United States on April 3, 2016Format: PaperbackVerified PurchaseThis is one of the most shocking books which, as a historian, one has ever read.
In the sixties many people and most students were against the war. Everybody knew some of the nasty things that were reported about the Vietnam war but no one knew that the weekly body count was surprisingly generated by the intentional and almost universal killings of civilians, kids and the elderly year after year to boost the body count which, in turn, was used to maximize military promotion and rest and relaxation time and awards and recognition, etc.
This book is so shocking that one thinks Turse may be some sort of extremist and obsessed with defaming the military. But his sources, listed in 85 pages, are solid and easily verified and involve hundreds of personal interviews of vets and victims and massive research here and there and in Vietnam extending over ten years. He was a Harvard Fellow and is associated with the Nation Institute. The passion, energy, drive and absolute honesty and moral crusading he exhibits is really puzzling.
The reviews are listed at the beginning of the book and they are quite favorable, coming from both the left and right, from The American Conservatives, from West Point grad, soldier, scholar, patriot Andrew Bacevich, Seymour Hersh, etc. The San Francisco Chronicle terms the book a "paradigm changer" and with that I agree insofar as it will cause future historians to re-assess all of our foreign wars and connect it with the nasty things our soldiers did in France while liberating as presented in Marie Louise Robert's book "What Soldiers Do" and what European TV recently started to touch in its program "The Crimes of the Liberators" and what European historians have written when they exposed the fact that the Allies killed four to five times more Dutch people "liberating" them than were killed by the Germans. In fact, what Turse recounts may just be far, far worse than the absolutely brutal action of ISIS, unless of course ISIS is killing females after sexually abusing them with guns and stomping on babies heads to increase body counts for rewards. Sorry to be so shockingly summarizing Turse. To recommend it to others could cause potentially some severe reactions.
Turse presents serialized, intentional and constant killings of innocent civilians which just leaves the reader absolutely shocked. He never stops naming the victims, the time and place and keeps going year after year. One at first believes he is making it all up but the documentations proves otherwise. Literally, one's imagination could not make up such gruesome events. Hundreds of good Americans wrote desperately to their parents, to their pols, to the media year after year but nothing changed. The military judicial system here and there pretended to take actions but allowed nearly all of the gruesome murdering to go mostly unpunished. MacArthur advised Westmoreland to enact "a scorched earth policy" and that the Asian mind fears artillery shelling. On top of brutal ground work, more brutality was added upon a weak non-threatening society with relentless bombing, napalm, artillery and naval gun firing so that Turse provides unbelievable stats such a one valley being hit by 311,000 artillery shells plus B52 bombing and napalm strikes and Phantom strafings, etc. He selects three senior military officials for more detailed description of their atrocities: Sergeant Roy Bumgarner, General John Donaldson and General Julian Ewell. What they did is beyond belief. He calls Ewell "The Butcher of the Delta."
My Lai was investigated by the Pentagon and it resulted in a policy to prevent similar info from getting out and Turse discovered docs related to this and this seems to have gotten him going. My Lai pales in comparison to the ongoing and constant massacres of 10 to 130 civilians seemingly unbelievable week after week, month after month, year after year. In fact, on the same day of My Lai another massacre of more than 90 civilians took place not far from My Lai at My Khe. Besides this, 3 million Vietnamese were exposed to herbicide and dioxin---we knew that already. The very bizarre habit on part of many GIs was the collecting of body parts as souvenirs, hanging cut off ears around the neck (we knew that, too, but not the scope) and on rare occasion even, sorry to say so, a male genital. General Patton himself, son of WW II General Patton partook in this atavistic and brutal custom when decapitated heads were boiled to remove the flesh and thus he kept a skull on his desk and even carried it during his farewell party.
Turse has been faulted for not focusing on the horrible bombing of North Vietnam. Well, that was not his subject. He does mention briefly now and then the atrocities committed by the VC but indicates that they were mild compared to the size, scope and varieties of tortures, mutilations, murder and killings carried by the U.S. which pretended to help the Vietnamese. The juxtaposition of the gruesome deeds and the image sold at home and abroad is THE most perfect and giant example of schizophrenic marketing and successful image making. If a society has THE highest violent crime rate of all adv. societies than one can potentially expects its soldiers to misbehave brutally in wars. John Wayne's movie the Green Berets and Reagan's statement that the war was for a noble cause can only prompt cynical derision. They are in the realm of severe psychopathology and grandiose self-delusion very similar to our presumed high living standard, which BTW few believe any more, given slumerica created by those who were uncritically operating in our dangerous myths.
Vietnam was used as a giant experimental societal guinea pig on which to test various new military hardwares, methods of torture and all sorts of new fangled and innovative ways to carry on warfare. The conclusion and the proper policy is to prevent ANY foreign military adventures on part of the U.S. The military has become a caste system of sorts already and we do not need more of that on top of trillions spent on the wholesale destruction of tiny non threatening and backward societies. Is totally immoral to advocate unnecessary military intervention which cause only blowbacks. The U.S. is extremely lucky that the immense suffering of the Vietnamese did not cause massive blowbacks as has been and is happening all across the Middle East.
Finally, as a historian one must say that the Cold War of which Vietnam was part, was based upon the totally wrong misconceptualization that communism would be static, would not reform and moderate itself. That demonization was necessary to sustain the military. Yet, since we disengage from holding a gun on Communism it proved itself to be quite capable of reforming and even adopting substantially capitalism and emulationg Wall Street. Thus, had we not held a gun on it, it would have reformed earlier and we could have saved trillions for sorely needed domestic improvements.
What is also amazing is the fact that the book was a NY Times bestseller and no one refuted Turse's facts or references and all agree, even critical reviews, that the facts are true. If so, then future scholars will compare statistically the shocking behavior at the personal level of ordinary soldiers and at the bureaucratic level and higher ups and the military judicial with what the Russians did in Afghanistan and what happened in WW II, etc. Psychiatrists and psycho-historians will have a field day at some future time to expose and analyze the deformed and decayed mentality and lack of minimum human impulses on part of the thousands Turse exposes.
Unfortunately, Turse does not focus on the ongoing casualties and deaths resulting from unexploded ordinance and dioxin induced genetic defects and the left over general ecological degradatioon which altogether will take many generation to recover, if it is even possible. In a modified fashion it is being repeated in Afghanistan and Iraq and Syria, etc
- Reviewed in the United States on March 14, 2013Format: HardcoverVerified PurchaseNot the book, but the US government and its military handmaidens. For those of us who were around during the conflict, public reaction to the war seemed to be framed by the confrontation of some NYC hard hats and peace marchers - the pro-military right vs the peacenick lefties, a "values" standoff that, unfortunately, left out any consideration of what was actually a foot on the ground in Vietnam. McNamara and the DOD, using finely honed computer analysis, decided to run the war and achieve victory using one simple metric - once the bad guys were being killed at a rate that exceeded their replacement capabilities the war would be won. The key input for this calculation became known as the body count, and the bigger the number the closer the USA was to victory. This metric for success was agressively pushed down the chain of command, all the way down to the company level. Junior officers spent six to twelve months of trigger time in Vietnam; how they performed during this combat experience would have a direct bearing on their career advancement. The outcome of this mix was obvious in advance - measures would be taken to maximize the killing, and this fed right down to the platoon level; units "under perfoming" would be kept in the generally hellish conditions of the field longer, those "doing well" would be rewarded with R&R, extra beer rations and so forth. Layer on this an almost universal racial hatered of the Vietnamese (gooks, slopes, etc.) held by most combat troops - and many of their superiors - and a recipe for disaster was at hand, and it happened.
It was decided that the best way to maximize the body-count strategy was to implement a policy called "draining the sea." Vietnamese farmers, the vast majority of the population, would be "encouraged" to move into new settlements or urban areas thereby opening up vast swaths of the country (40%) as free-fire zones that could be pounded with indiscriminate air, artillery and sea launched munitions. Turse details the staggering amount of iron bombs, artillery shells, napalm, phosphor munitions, defoliants, and cluster bombs dropped on the country. As for the latter, one B-52 run could unlease 7.5 million ball bearing munitions in less than a square kilometer; one favored bombing area, the Iron Triangle near Saigon, took 4,000 bomb or artillery hits per square kilometer. In addition, US bulldozers plowed under an estimated 2% of the county's land mass. How did this work out for the locals? Not so good. These mostly remote farming villages usually got the word they would be in a free-fire zone when leafletts rained down the day before death from above was going to be delivered; unfortunately, most were illiterate. Those who left for their "new homes" supplied by the USA discovered that about all that was provided was a razor wire-chain link fence enclosure in which the peasants were expected to fend for themselves. Many went to the cities and the urban population exploded from around 12% of the population to nearly half. Vast slums were created with lakes of sewerage and rampant disease, even including plague. Infant mortality was 36%, and prostitution the main money maker. The prison system for "political deviants" would have made Torquemada blanche.
Many Vietnamese stayed in their villages because of family ties and, more importantly, farming was their only source of income. They built bunkers for protection against the next artillery or air bombardment. These were death traps when US ground troops arrived. Grenades were routinely tossed in these shelters while others set about burning down the village, slaughtering livestock and blowing up food supplies, and all-too-often raping the women and killing the inhabitants in cold blood. Village occupants were near universally women, old men, and children. In 1969 the slaugher of over 500 Vietnamese at My Lai got some media attraction, but as Turse covers in some detail, even getting the press to come forth with this story was a real push, and subsequent documented "incidents" were seen as "too hot to handle" by the US media not willing to offend the glorious administration in D.C. or the military. The book supplies almost endless examples of other My Lai incidents and the futile efforts of a number of troopers to get the story out; virtually all of these attempts were totally mushroomed by local commands, the Pentagon, or members of Congress. While 18 officer-grade military were implicated in My Lai, only Lt Calley as officer-on-the-spot was convicted. He served 40 months of house arrest at Ft Benning and was then released. Near as I can tell, Calley was the only member of the US military to serve any time for the egregious and wide spread slaughter of Vietnames civilians. Calley, however, was not directly to blame for My Lai; this incident wasn't a matter of US troops going nuts in the field; Calley's orders before the event were to kill everthing in sight, he was just following orders.
This ethnic cleansing operation was not limited to the local unit command structure. In Operation Speedy Express duing the late 1960s in a command that covered the Mekong Delta, Vietnam's most densely populated area, the general in charge exerted huge pressure on those below him to get the body county up, and in this was quite successful: On average in the county, US troops suffered one casualty for every eight inflicted on the enemy. In the Mekong they got the ratio up to 1:134. This statistical anomoly didn't raise an eyebrow at the Pentagon. "Running" was considered to be a killing offense. As one helicopter machine gunner related, if hovering over some Vietnamese did not cause them to run, a short burst put near their feet would, and then they could be mowed down. One general in charge of a more northern command was more creative: He'd go out daily in a helicopter with a good supply of grenades, spot farmers working in their fields and you can guess the rest.
This book is painstakenly researched and well written. The cover up of the civilian slaughter carried out by both the political and military classes was near perfect. Documents uncovered by the author produced by the after-the-fact secret Pentagon task force known as the Vietnam War Crimes Working Group not only confirmed incidents reported by soldiers on the ground but in many cases show claims of attrocities were actually under stated. But that's all history now. Speedy Express alone is estimated to have killed about twice as many civilians than 9/11. Ad magnum gloria. To end on another generally unknown aspect of this war - unknow as it was carried out in secret - between 1964 and 1973 the US flew 580,344 bombing missions in Laos, dumping more than two million tons of ordnance on the country (more tonnage than dropped on Europe in WWII), equal to a planeload of bombs every 8 minutes, 24-hours a day, for 9 years. 270 million cluster bombs were dropped, an estimated quarter of which did not detonate - then. Now 40 years on, less than 1% of these munitions have been destroyed and more than half of all confirmed cluster munitions casualties in the world have occurred in Laos, a gift that keeps on giving.
Top reviews from other countries
Jeff AugReviewed in Germany on April 18, 20135.0 out of 5 stars Great book!
Format: HardcoverVerified PurchaseGreat book! I am about halfway through the book. The book divulges evidence of the widespread and deliberate torture of the Vietnamese (civilians, as well as VC supporters) by U.S. troops throughout the war. It's really a disturbing read.
Robert WhinfieldReviewed in Australia on January 2, 20215.0 out of 5 stars Disgraceful Americans
Format: KindleVerified PurchaseIt showed the disgraceful truth of the slayings by American troops in Viet nam and the utter disrespect of the viietnamese people. American soldiers should hang their heads in shame and try to repair the gross actions they made. How beautiful are the Vietnamese people to forgive and maybe forget the atrocities of those ruthless bastards, America, shame shame shame.
YoReviewed in Spain on June 10, 20255.0 out of 5 stars A great book, but a very hard read.
Format: PaperbackVerified PurchaseReally a very hard read...what s wrong with you, Americans?
The book is excelent, but reading about such behaviors is really disgusting, if i was an American i would be really ashamed.
Lois A AddisonReviewed in Canada on March 6, 20135.0 out of 5 stars An incredible book
Format: KindleVerified PurchaseI think that this book is the most difficult book I have ever read. I could only bear to read it in short spurts because what is described is so horrific. Once again this is a masterpiece of historical research - unearthing documents, reports, etc. from archives as well as hours of interviews of vets from that war. I read it on my Kindle - 57% of the book was the narrative; the other 43% were footnotes. This book is about what the US military did to civilians during the Vietnam War. The major thesis is that My Lai was not an aberration - but rather policy. The searing descriptions of actual events include random murder of civilians - especially of children, women, and the elderly. The slaughter of farm animals, rape and sadidistic sexual exploitation of woman and of quite young female children.
I was an American. I am now a Canadian. I lived through the Vietnam years. As mentioned in another review, I have a passion to fully understand the events that I lived through. This book is an absolute must read for anyone interested in the truth about what went on.
Paulo de Bessa AntunesReviewed in Brazil on July 18, 20154.0 out of 5 stars Ai interesting book
Format: KindleVerified PurchaseThe author is very critical about the search and destroy missions, stressing that such missions did not severe the unarmed civilians from combating guerrilla men and as a consequence, it was a shortcut to mass killing. On the other hand the author also emphasizes the illusion of "body count" as a appropriate measure of whom won the war. It worths reading.








































