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Living With Honour: A Pagan Ethics Kindle Edition
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- LanguageEnglish
- PublisherJohn Hunt Publishing
- Publication dateNovember 1, 2012
- File size505 KB
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- ASIN : B00AAZJBGO
- Publisher : John Hunt Publishing (November 1, 2012)
- Publication date : November 1, 2012
- Language : English
- File size : 505 KB
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- Print length : 368 pages
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Reviewed in the United States on July 19, 2016
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Let me be clear, it isn't the underlying positions themselves that I take issue with. I actually agree with many of them, and where I don't, I still respect her point of view. Rather, it is her use of unfounded assertions and distorted or inaccurate information that bothers me. Just a few examples: out of the blue, she claims that telecommunications companies are "corrupt," but doesn't explain why she thinks this. She writes that "protests against corporate abuses of the environment," (among other things) "have been squashed as compromising national security," but provides no justification for this position. In addition to the general comments, some of her more specific statements do not hold up under investigation. She says that calves are castrated without anesthesia, yet a websearch revealed that in the UK, anesthesia is required when they are older than two months, and that many European countries require anesthesia at any age. She also doesn't mention that non-surgical methods exist which don't necessitate anesthesia. She claims that excessive protein consumption causes kidney disease, obesity, and calcium deficiency, when in fact, protein causes NONE of these. High protein diets are only a problem for people who already have kidney dysfunction. Healthy kidneys can handle it. The dietary culprit involved with obesity is excessive intake of sugars and fats, which pack a large number of calories in small doses, and, in the case of high fructose corn syrup, is problematic for the body to metabolize. Calcium-deficiency is caused by inadequate intake. Here, Orr is confusing calcium deficiency with bone loss, which does occur with high protein diets, but only when calcium consumption is too low. Research has shown that in the presence of sufficient calcium (800-1200mg per day), bone density actually increases with a high protein diet because protein stimulates the production of cells that create new bone. My point with all this is that Orr makes a number of assertions in this book that are debatable if not outright wrong.
"Living with Honor" started out as a promising treatise on ethics, morality, and honorable Pagan living, but is ultimately marred by her bias against Western society and numerous instances of distorted and unproven assertions. I give it three stars for the premise, but otherwise did not like the book.
This is a thoughtful treatise that is more interested in finding and articulating important truths than just supporting a given line. Her honesty and moral integrity represents the quest at its finest, drawing wisdom from some of the greatest thinkers in Western culture. Although I do not deem myself a Pagan, I was amazed at the similarities between her quest results and mine. She is not afraid to honour truth wherever she finds it, making her a rare searcher indeed. I can think of no higher compliment.
I recommend this book for those who are seeking a new and very intelligent perspective to supplement and expand their own quests.
D. Joseph Jacques
Dan Shelton, Ph.D (Member of The Order of Bards, Ovates and Druids).

Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on July 19, 2016
Dan Shelton, Ph.D (Member of The Order of Bards, Ovates and Druids).

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Sadly, much of the pagan landscape is lacking in such rigour, and this book is an excellent remedy for that lack.
I love everything about this book. I don't agree with all the points argued (I am not a vegan/vegetarian, for example, and I'm very clear about why), but I appreciate the challenges and the thought processes offered up for contemplation. I use this book to bring more consciousness to my choices and clarify my ethics. I reread it every few years, and get more out of it each time.
Like her other work, this book is beautifully written: lyrical, poetic, clearly explained, strongly reasoned, well argued, and full of the passion, deep care and vivid lived experience that I have come to appreciate and value from this author.
Unlike some of her other books, it is not often an easy read. It is densely packed with meaning, and quite academic at times. It asks a lot of the reader, particularly concentration, deep thought, and patience. I believe it is well worth the effort!
This book is, for me, one of the brightest guiding lights I have on my life's journey.
I cannot recommend it too highly.

This book is not a good introduction to ethics(Neo-pagan or otherwise), although I think it was intended as such, nor does it, due to its rambling prose, present a clear argument for virtue ethics and it would have been good to see how the authors version of virtue ethics actually worked to answer some ethical/moral puzzles('The trolley puzzle' for instance) rather than just offering rhetorical polemic after rhetorical polemic to the reader.
The one thing this book does have going for it is that there is probably no other book in its category of 'Neo-pagan Ethics', and for that I would recommend it to Neo-pagans who want to look a little bit closer at their own 'Neo-paganism'. For this reason alone I mark it up to 3 stars.

Worth a read, then a thought!

