|Standing screen display size||17.3 Inches|
|Max Screen Resolution||1920x1080|
|Processor||2.4 GHz core_i7|
|RAM||12 GB DDR3L|
|Memory Speed||1600 MHz|
|Hard Drive||1024 GB|
|Graphics Coprocessor||NVIDIA Geforce GTX860M|
|Graphics Card Ram Size||2000 MB|
|Number of USB 2.0 Ports||2|
|Number of USB 3.0 Ports||2|
|Average Battery Life (in hours)||6 Hours|
MSI GE70 Apache Pro-012 17.3-Inch Laptop
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|Specific Uses For Product||Gaming|
|Screen Size||17.3 Inches|
|Operating System||Windows 8.1|
|Human Interface Input||Touchscreen with Stylus Support|
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- Windows 8.1
- The latest 4th generation Intel Core i7 Processor
- 17.3" Full HD (1920x1080) anti-glare LCD panel in LED backlight
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M discrete graphics card provides great detail images quality
- SteelSeries Engine to customize every key and devices for personalizing your play style
- Intel Core i7-4700HQ 2.4 GHz, 3.2 to 3.4 GHz Turbo Boost
- 12 GB DDR3L SDRAM
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The laptop is sleek and attractive. I read a couple of reviews where they read that it looks cheap, because it definitely doesn't. The only issue I have with the matte finish is that it gets dirty so quickly. I jokingly said that I'm going to have to put on a pair of gloves whenever I use or carry it. In regards to performance, performance is great, especially for the price. I'm running recent triple A games with no problem. Some games carry a little struggle, but a quick fps lock to 30 or 45 will resolve that. Considering that the boost goes up to 3.4 ghz, this shouldn't be a problem either. The display on the machine is beautiful and clear. I personally like machines this wide, so it's not a problem for me.
The keyboard itself is good. The RGB is very nice and sleek. It's not overpowering to the point where it blinds you. The customization is fun as well. The Steelseries keyboard is smooth, and jelly-feeling. This is a minor turnoff for me, as I am a fan of mechanical keyboards, but as far as laptop keyboards go, it's smooth sailing that I don't mind. It comes with a few extra inputs, euro symbol, built in numpad and such.
The trackpad.....oh, the trackpad....This is the only issue that I have with the laptop. The trackpad with sluggish and has a very mechanical feel which sometimes makes me wonder if this was the one part of the laptop that they did not invest too much in. Now, I have not fiddled too much with any other settings for the track pad, so I will edit it this with an update.
Overall, 9/10. A definite easy buy I would recommend for any college student, gamer enthusiast and even casual users. For less than a the price of a Macbook Pro, you have this behemoth of a laptop that outperforms nearly all laptops in its price range.
1. Are students - i.e. work/play combination.
2. Want to get the best computer for the price!
3. Want AMAZING power. Not just for games but also for work (multiple cores and SpeedStep technology make everything better).
4. Can tolerate the machine getting warm, but only when using graphics-intensive things like games, not web browsing or Word.
5. Need an awesome, BIG screen for reading or work (and games).
6. Understand that all computers have the need to address minor, non-problems like downloading/upgrading software.
7. Are at least slightly computer savvy (or know someone who is) with driver upgrades, uninstalling programs, etc.
--Update at the bottom regarding 3D/stereoscopic capability.
It's a well-rounded machine. No need to be a computer expert. More details below. There are other reviews with more technical stuff, I'm trying to keep it simple:
Also, to lead-off with why only 4-stars... it has to do with pains involved with upgrading hardware.
BTW I had this computer shipped to me via my APO, but I had to buy it from a 3rd party seller, since Amazon Prime won't ship overseas.
- Great for gaming AND work!
-12 GB RAM! Plenty of memory for anything for years to come.
- 4 cores with SpeedStep (processor turbo boost from 2.5 to 3.2 GHz) - enough processing power for years to come.
- Less expensive than equally-powerful machines from other brands, especially if you buy refurbished (I bought an HD 27-inch monitor with the difference).
- Laptop screen is large enough to have multiple side-by-side windows open for research/reference/work and split-screen games. Screen is CLEAR and easy for me to read. This is one reason I upgraded... last laptop strained my eyes too much. This one is awesome.
- Multiple cores are pretty normal nowadays, but 4 cores running at 2.5 GHz (turbo 3.2) means no crashes when, say, 5 PDFs are open along with Photoshop, Word, mind-mapping software or other processor - intensive applications. (this was the main reason I upgraded from my old laptop).
- Enough USB ports to be convenient, and they exist on both sides of the computer. (another reason I upgraded). Also has "constant-on" USB port to charge things when computer goes to sleep.
- HDMI and VGA outputs for multiple displays. They both can work simultaneously if you want to have 3 monitors. The included software allows you to easily adjust refresh rates if your HD/LED TV has some issues with syncing/blinking, like mine.
- This computer plays games better than any of my console gaming systems.
- The SpeedStep technology actually works when it needs to. My Operating system tells me that the computer is only 2.5 GHz, but when I run CPU-Z to monitor my processor speed, I get speeds in excess of 3.2 GHz.
- The backlit keyboard is full-size with number pad.
- Keyboard is back-lit, making it extremely convenient to work/play in lower-light situations.
- The trackpad works fine for me, I'm not sure why other reviewers and youtube reviews cry about it.
- The package I bought from tigra-tech store came with a free mouse.
- The only issues I've had with my (refurbished) machine is my own user error.
- The included restore function on Windows 8.1 reset my machine and got rid of the bloatware I didn't want, while keeping the cool, included gaming apps like the Killer network app, keyboard LED app, etc.
- The included versions of Norton are easy to remove, unlike older Norton stuff.
- The heat issues other people talk about only exist during gaming, and they aren't that bad in my opinion.
- The battery works great if you have realistic expectations. 90 minutes of gaming at the quality this machine has is excellent. Find a plug if you want to run a 19-inch laptop on ultra settings while using wifi multiplayer for longer than 90 minutes for crying out loud.
- If you aren't using games, the computer lasts much longer on battery, I've used it for two and a half hours while typing/reading and it didn't die.
- Well... Windows 8.1. If you don't understand why this is a con, then it's not really a con for you.
- The directions/manual are pretty skimpy. Just a fold-out and a CD. But, if you've used a computer before, it's no sweat.
- The CD/DVD drive appears to be made by Playskool, although I have used it and it works just fine. It feels pretty ghetto for a 1300-dollar laptop; it has a lot of play on the rails when it's extended. It works, so I didn't take off a star for it.
- The machine gets hot when you game on it. It's not a big deal for me; I usually use a wireless mouse and keyboard anyway. But, playing games with the machine on your lap... you will notice the heat very quickly. It's also hot on the left side of the keyboard. I understand this this will bother some people. It made me sweat last time I played a game on my lap. Not enough to take off a star.
- It comes with a ton of pre-installed programs. Some of it is great, some isn't. It's easy to get rid of the stuff you don't want, but leaving it on doesn't affect performance. There is annoying bloatware to remove, but I'm not taking off a star because all computers are like this unless you build them yourself.
- The USB ports are extremely tight. The little "nub" wireless receiver for my keyboard/mouse is extremely hard to grab and pull out of the machine... unreasonably so.
- You have to void the warranty to upgrade to SSD, upgrade the RAM, or clean the inside. THIS IS WHY I DOCKED A STAR! Any good laptop should't void warranty for THIS!
- It doesn't refill my beverage for me; I have to get up myself and go to the cabinet and then WALK back to my chair. Ugh.
- It doesn't come with a solid-state hard drive. But, that's part of why it's less expensive.
- I had the LAN internet problems that other people had, but I immediately restored Windows to Factory via windows settings and it worked fine after that.
- Assassin's Creed Unity wouldn't run until after I updated NVIDIA drivers. This is to be expected, especially with new games.
- Dynamic Disk configured by factory. I don't mind this, but some others mind if they want to add an SSD.
I originally just wanted a fast computer that would be affordable and future-proof, at least for a few years, and would give me wide options. This machine had options of an extremely well-rounded machine. I'm not a gamer like I used to be, but this machine's sweetness has me playing more than I should.
Work/Study: Originally I wanted many cores for multiple displays and multitasking while doing research. I wanted a vibrant, large, clear display for mind maps, charts, and extensive online reading. I wanted excellent NIC speeds for network storage access of large documents. I thought I was losing my sanity on my old laptop screen. This screen is so clear and perfect, I can study/work for hours again with no problems.
If you want to buy a computer that lets you run awesome games right out of the box, this is it. A new game: I run HAWKEN on Ultra settings with perfect frame rates. A BRAND NEW GAME: Assassin's Creed Unity on High settings with occasional frame lag.
Any other game I own up to this point - High or ultra.
You only need computer smarts if you want to dig into the deeper features, change your OS because you don't like Windows 8.1, or want to upgrade the hardware, like adding a solid state drive or RAM. It has 12GB of RAM, so why the heck do you need to upgrade? Also, the HDD is awesome, I also see no reason for a normal person to upgrade unless you are so busy that saving several microseconds during hard drive accessing would actually impact your life. This means unless you're an electron, what's the point?
In sum, I searched for a laptop for months and settled on this one. I'm glad I did. It's flexible, powerful, portable, and stylish.
Update 1. According to some answers on this computer, people say that 3d gaming is not possible. That is true, it is not possible with the 60 Hz display that is integrated into the laptop. However, according to the capabilities of the included GTX 860M and the Intel HD 4600 cards, if you use an external display, 3D gaming is possible, according to research. Also, the laptop has HDMI 1.4 which is 3D-compliant. I have ordered a 3D capable display and will test this theory and leave another update.
With Tridef 3D drivers, and my Acer monitor, I have successfully played games in 3D. Still tweaking to get better performance, because the integrated graphics cards do not play nice to each other when trying to use stereoscopic 3D. I've gotten my monitor up to 75 Hz, and with proper intel drivers, I should be able to get it up to 120 hz. So, in short, 3D gaming is possible with proper external monitor, HDMI cable, and some patience. If 3D gaming is paramount for you, it might be worth it to pay more for a laptop or a desktop that is certified 3D vision ready. Messing with all of this extra stuff for 3D capability is a huge headache.
I generally have it plugged in at this point, so I can't really comment on its battery life. Might sound strange that I've got a laptop that I barely ever use away from a desk, but the thing is strong enough to use as the dedicated computer for all of my recording in my home studio. I've thought about upgrading recently, but honestly there really isn't a need to yet.
Long story short, I like everything about this laptop. Light up keyboard is a nice touch as well, if you're into that. MSI makes quality stuff for relatively cheap, definitely worth it from my perspective.