I'll give tips after a little background info, what wasn't right and what customer service said to do, that WORKED!
First off my background. I am not, nor have I every been a barista. I am an average person who likes mochas from the coffee shop, but I live 80 miles from town, so I don't get them very often and wanted to try making them at home. This is my first espresso machine. I read a lot of blogs and watched online videos from real baristas giving tips how to make good espresso drinks at home before purchasing this. I got this thing and things didn't taste right to me, bitter. So I did more research and figured out the problem, it wasn't heating up well. I checked temperature and it was only getting to 157*F on average (too cold) and took 14-15 seconds to make one shot (too fast). NOT what the online advice says you need. Online advice says 170-180*F and 27-30 seconds is about right. So I called Mr Coffee for help before I sent it back to Amazon. GLAD I did.
The call: In short, customer service told me to run a cleaning cycle per directions from page 16 in the user manual. Which is 1/2 tank of white vinegar, hit the button for double shot. Repeat as many times as you need. Also run a cleaning cycle through the milk dispenser. My thought was, "what the heck, its a new machine! I did the priming as directed before use, how can it be dirty?" But I had to give it a try or send it back. Well I'll be go to heck, it WORKED!
While directions said you only need to run it few times. I had the time, so I ran the whole 1/2 tank white vinegar through (double shot at at a time) since I has to toss the vinegar anyway, so why not really clean it eh? Anyway, after a couple times running the double shot espresso button the temperature went from consistent 157*F to 175-182*F. Wahoo! It seemed to matter how long I let it warm up between shots. Running two times consecutively got the 175-177*, which is just what you want. Letting it sit and warm up a few minutes before runs got it 180-184*, which is getting a little too hot. BTW, I was using a good quality quick, calibrated thermometer that I use for caramel making, which is a very exacting process to do right. So I figured it could accurately measure the espresso before it cooled from air temperature, which by the way is mere seconds I found out.
NOTE: The higher temperature is NOT for drinking comfort (how hot you like it) it is what the espresso NEEDS to properly extract and not be bitter. You can let it sit a few minutes if you don't like it that hot, personally I don't want a burned tongue, so I wait a little. Coming out of the machine perfect drinking temperature is NOT a good thing.
SECOND NOTE: Running the vinegar through is NOT descaling, it is cleaning. Descaling is something else you do, read the manual on how. The vinegar clean is NOT priming, it is cleaning. Don't know why you need to clean the new machine in addition to priming, but DO it anyway. Make sure to rinse the reservoir out, then run some PLAIN water through to remove the vinegar afterwards, do it as many times as it takes to get the smell out, mine took a full reservoir. Honestly though it's faster shipping it back and waiting for a replacement machine because it doesn't get hot enough, this WORKS.
When I first got it, as I said it was taking 14-15 seconds to run the shots through. During the cleaning process they got longer and longer. Now that it's clean, it's about 28-30 seconds. Again, just what you want. I use my cell phone stop watch feature to be accurate.
In summary, based on what I've read and how I got it to work well, at least for "normal" person standards. This a good machine. Here's my TIPS TO GET IT WORKING RIGHT:
1. Learn to grind grounds well. Do NOT buy pre-ground, buy beans and grind them yourself. It has to do with when the oil is release one how well it works. If you are going to the trouble to use a machine like this (rather than just normal a coffee machine) you can go to the effort to grind as well, it's just part of the process.
You can use the hand held cone burr grinders for the most accurate fine ground. Or you can spend a bundle on an electric burr grinder. From what I read, you REALLY do need to get a good one if you go electric. In fact that is almost more important than the machine they say. Inconsistent size of grounds will yield inconsistent shots. Too fine (Turkish grind, which is like flour) and it clogs the filter making the machine unable to push all the water through. Too course (regular coffee machine grind) and the water goes through too fast making it bitter. Espresso grind has to be the consistency of table salt.
I'm cheap, so using the hand grinder does work and I advise it for other cheap people. However, in the morning I am cranky and impatient, I'm also lazy, so I've ordered a couple different electric burr grinders to see if that works as well. I plan to return which ever (or both) that don't grind as the espresso NEEDS (good ol Amazon prime and their return policies). No, I did not take the online baristas advice and buy a $200 burr grinder (I am cheap after all), but I did spend about $50 on a burr grinder and $20 on a blade style. Will update when I have decided what works or not, which I kept or if I end up just doing the hand grind.
2. Learn how full to fill the cup. At least to the top of the rim, or a little higher. You want the end result about 1/8-1/4" from the top. The amount in the cup DOES matter.
3. Learn how to pack your grounds to 30lbs of pressure. How to do that, put your bathroom scale on the counter. Use your tamper to push until you get the feel of 30lbs pressure. Repeat several times until you can push it pretty accurately. This is very important. Also, but a metal tamper, the plastic one isn't sturdy enough for 30 lbs pressure, it bents and packs unevenly. You can get metal tampers cheap, it's worth it.
4. Before you make your cup each morning, warm the machine as directions indicate, but ALSO run a shot of plain water through first. The second time through will be hotter, and it only takes 30 seconds.
5. Even though it's a new machine, and you did the priming as the manual says, run 1/2 tank of white vinegar through it (directions on page 16 of manual) and it will make a tremendous difference. Don't argue, just do it.
6. You can open the lid and fill the reservoir with it ON the machine with a pitcher if taking it on and off is too hard.
NOTE: I did NOT receive this at a discount in exchange for an honest review. This is a good machine for the average espresso based specialty coffee drinker. I gave it a full 5 stars because it's pretty idiot proof (I'm not the most mechanical person) and it makes mochas that are pretty darn good in my average persons opinion. I have no idea what a real coffee expert would say, and really, shouldn't they have a professional machine anyway? [...]
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Since 1970 the Mr. Coffee brand has been doing one thing and one thing only brewing coffee. No one has served cup after delicious cup to more Americans than us. For us, bringing a rich coffee experience into your home is our top priority. Along with coffee makers, we are here to share everything coffee with you.
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Craft delectable, robust coffeehouse-quality espressos, cappuccinos, and lattes with the Mr. Coffee Café Barista. Featuring an electric 15-bar pump that creates powerful pressure to extract bold, rich flavors during the brew. Anyone can become a cafe expert with the simple-to-use espresso maker. One-touch controls let you choose between single or double shots and automatically froths milk with an adjustable control knob. The milk reservoir is removable to store leftover milk not used during the brew in the refrigerator, so you just fill it and let the Café Barista determine the amount needed. A recipe book is included to easily create impressive coffee drinks or inspire you to invent original recipes all from the comfort of your home.
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One-Touch Control PanelAllows you to choose from a single or a double shot for your espresso, cappuccino, or latte. |
Easy to UseSimply pick a single shot or double shot filter, select your grounds, fill the milk reservoir, and choose your brew. |
Automatically Froths MilkAutomatically froths milk into cappuccino and latte selections. |
Removable Water ReservoirRemovable water reservoir fills and cleans easily at the sink. |
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| Great for | Perfect starter espresso machine or a gift espresso machine | Coffee House lovers and Coffee Connoisseurs | Latte and Cappuccino lovers and Espresso Aficionados |
| Pressure | Creates steam pressure of about 3 bars. | An electric pump creates about 15 or more bars of pressure. | An electric pump creates about 15 bars of pressure. |
| Water Tank | Fixed | Removable | Removable |
| Milk | Manual Steam | Manual Steam | Automatic Frothing with Removable Milk Tank |
| Tools | Glass Carafe, Measuring Scoop/Tamper | Measuring Scoop/Tamper; Filter for Single and Double Espresso | Measuring Scoop/Tamper; Filter for Single and Double Espresso |
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Reviewed in the United States on October 3, 2017
However, there is a dangerous design flaw that needs to be fixed ASAP. There is a tiny wood screw holding the 3 pieces of the portafilter together. This tiny wood screw works its way out of the plastic piece and falls into your coffee!
I discovered this when I poured a shot of espresso into my new $215 Nutri Ninja Auto-IQ Blender to make a bulletproof coffee. The tiny screw tore up the metal blades before I realized what was happening and turned it off. I guess I am lucky because ordinarily I would have just gulped the shot and the screw would have ended up somewhere in my digestive system.
When I fished the screw out I couldn't imagine where it had come from. I saw the tiny hole in the bottom of the portafilter but I just could not believe that Mr Coffee was using a wood screw into soft plastic to hold the portafilter together! Especially when, as was bound to happen, if it worked its way out, it would end up in the coffee! But later when I was cleaning the portafilter I saw that it came apart into 3 pieces and it had never come apart like that before. I had saved the little screw and I saw that, incredibly enough, this was what had been holding it together!
I have included pictures showing the pieces of the portafilter and the tiny screw that is supposed to hold all it together. The translucent thing is a seal between the other 2 parts. The red arrows point to the places where the screw goes.
Mr Coffee needs to fix this issue and provide a free replacement portafilter to everyone who owns a Cafe Barista.
If you own or buy a Cafe Barista I urge you to be proactive and remove the little screw before it works its way out on its own and you end up drinking it. The portafilter leaks and drips without the screw but that's better than having metal pieces in your coffee.
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Dangerous design flaw drops metal screw into coffee
By A Kindle Customer on October 3, 2017
I love my Mr Coffee Cafe Barista. It makes great espresso, cappuccino, latte, etc.By A Kindle Customer on October 3, 2017
However, there is a dangerous design flaw that needs to be fixed ASAP. There is a tiny wood screw holding the 3 pieces of the portafilter together. This tiny wood screw works its way out of the plastic piece and falls into your coffee!
I discovered this when I poured a shot of espresso into my new $215 Nutri Ninja Auto-IQ Blender to make a bulletproof coffee. The tiny screw tore up the metal blades before I realized what was happening and turned it off. I guess I am lucky because ordinarily I would have just gulped the shot and the screw would have ended up somewhere in my digestive system.
When I fished the screw out I couldn't imagine where it had come from. I saw the tiny hole in the bottom of the portafilter but I just could not believe that Mr Coffee was using a wood screw into soft plastic to hold the portafilter together! Especially when, as was bound to happen, if it worked its way out, it would end up in the coffee! But later when I was cleaning the portafilter I saw that it came apart into 3 pieces and it had never come apart like that before. I had saved the little screw and I saw that, incredibly enough, this was what had been holding it together!
I have included pictures showing the pieces of the portafilter and the tiny screw that is supposed to hold all it together. The translucent thing is a seal between the other 2 parts. The red arrows point to the places where the screw goes.
Mr Coffee needs to fix this issue and provide a free replacement portafilter to everyone who owns a Cafe Barista.
If you own or buy a Cafe Barista I urge you to be proactive and remove the little screw before it works its way out on its own and you end up drinking it. The portafilter leaks and drips without the screw but that's better than having metal pieces in your coffee.
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Reviewed in the United States on September 26, 2017
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