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Nietzsche Against the Crucified Paperback – October 1, 1999
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- Print length226 pages
- LanguageEnglish
- PublisherHymns Ancient & Modern Ltd
- Publication dateOctober 1, 1999
- Dimensions8.5 x 11.5 x 5.5 inches
- ISBN-100334027837
- ISBN-13978-0334027836
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- Publisher : Hymns Ancient & Modern Ltd
- Publication date : October 1, 1999
- Language : English
- Print length : 226 pages
- ISBN-10 : 0334027837
- ISBN-13 : 978-0334027836
- Item Weight : 8.8 ounces
- Dimensions : 8.5 x 11.5 x 5.5 inches
- Best Sellers Rank: #3,127,884 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
- #5,269 in Religious Philosophy (Books)
- #8,619 in Philosophy of Ethics & Morality
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- Reviewed in the United States on November 10, 2013I read this book after I finished up "Pious Nietzsche: Decadence and Dionysian Faith" by Bruce Ellis Benson, I would recommend reading both books back to back.
Kee offered a very good argument as to why Nietzsche went up against Christianity, specifically Christ!(Benson focuses more on Paul). Putting the two books together one can get a bigger glimpse of what Nietzsche is criticizing. I wrote a review on Benson's book so I will try not to repeat myself. But as I argued in the other review, Nietzsche is really attacking Lutheranism (and Martin Luther) and he does it via the Apostle Paul and Christ. What I find interesting, so far, Nietzsche never really brings up Martin Luther at all, I have yet to see anyone bring up that argument. When I was reading these two books, to me, it became very obvious of what Nietzsche was actually attacking.
Both Kee and Benson bring up many similar points, especially Nietzsche's critique of German Christianity and how Nietzsche was very interested in books that criticized Christianity, the most important book was by David Friedrich Strauss. It would be interesting to read a book about the theological revolution that was taking place in Germany during this time period, to have someone connect the dots between many of these German philosophers and theologians. I think something like that would be very useful in fully understanding what influenced Nietzsche as well as other.
I have read many books on Nietzsche over the past two weeks, that my mind is actually mixing them up. Which is why I am being a bit vague as to the content of the book. But I highly recommend this book and that you pick up Benson's book along with it. You will not be disappointed. After reading these two books, I am fully convinced that Nietzsche was not an Atheist, but a very religious man.
- Reviewed in the United States on November 2, 2014I should have given it two stars, but Kee is fun and creative in his attempt to rescue Jesus (and consequently "true" Christianity) from the scathingly powerful deconstruction of Nietzsche.
In the end, however, Kee is guilty of what Nietzsche had warned that we would find in the knapsack of religious metaphysicans:
"Knapsack of the Metaphysicians.-- Those who boast so mightily of the scientificality of their metaphysics should receive no answer; it is enough to pluck at the bundle which, with a certain degree of embarrassment, they keep concealed behind their back; if one succeeds in opening it, the products of that scientificality come to light, attended by their blushes: a dear little Lord God, a nice little immortality, perhaps a certain quantity of spiritualism, and in any event a whole tangled heap of 'wretched poor sinner' and Pharisee arrogance."
Nietzsche's declaration concerning the death of God may have had wide-reaching cultural impact, as Kee notes--an impact that not even the atheists of his day could discern (the whole point of his parable in the Gay Science)--but this declaration is built on solid epistemological concerns that Nietzsche assumes and takes for granted.
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"Historical refutation as the definitive refutation.-- In former times, one sought to prove that there is no God - today one indicates how the belief that there is a God arose and how this belief acquired its weight and importance: a counter-proof that there is no God thereby becomes superfluous.- When in former times one had refuted the 'proofs of the existence of God' put forward, there always remained the doubt whether better proofs might not be adduced than those just refuted: in those days atheists did not know how to make a clean sweep."
He definitely accedes to the fact that life without God no longer retains a *center*--and much of his positive philosophy is concerned with providing a model for the kind of redirection that we as a species can begin to take--but I'd definitely beware of an interpretation of his philosophy that seeks to redirect his deconstruction toward any kind of Christian meaning or goal. In the end he was quite clear--as Kee himself notes and treats ironically in his introduction--"Have I been understood? Dionysus versus the Crucified."
(For a full explication of this antagonism, check out his notebook entry called "The Two Types" in The Will to Power 1052: "Dionysus versus the 'Crucified': there you have the antithesis. It is *not* a difference in regard to their martyrdom--it is a difference in the meaning of it... the tragic man affirms even the harshest suffering: he is sufficiently strong, rich, and capable of deifying to do so. The Christian denies even the happiest lot on earth: he is sufficiently weak, poor, disinherited to suffer from life in whatever form he meets it. The god on the cross is a curse on life, a signpost to seek redemption from life; Dionysus cut to pieces is a promise of life: it will be eternally reborn and return again from destruction.")
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D'Lawrence EzikeReviewed in Italy on June 24, 20135.0 out of 5 stars very good
as expected. It arrived early enough and in very good shape as expected. The content too was very instructive and enlightening.






