Otis Tactical Cleaning System- Rifle/Pistol/Shotgun
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- Cleans all rifles/pistols/shotguns with 100% cotton 2” & 3” patches, 3 slotted tips & 2 patch savers®
- Six firearm specific bronze bore brushes with size marked on brush stem (.22/.223, .270, .30/.308/30-06/30-30, .38/9mm, .45 cal, 12 ga)
- 8” and 30” aircraft grade Memory-Flex® cables and thread connector for proper Breech-to-Muzzle® cleaning
- 34” aircraft grade Memory-Flex® cable (5-40 thread) with slotted tip is small enough to clean .17 caliber firearms
- Also includes chamber flag, 0.5 fl.oz. Bio-CLP & instruction manual
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It doesn’t matter if the hunt is in the backcountry or back forty—a dirty firearm can be the difference between success and a long walk back. Pack a cleaning system versatile enough to handle every condition, without packing extra weight. Contains the brushes needed to clean .22, .270, .30, .38, .45 cal. rifles/pistols and 12/10 ga. shotguns. Patch cleans all .17-.50 cal. rifles/pistols, .410 – 12/10 ga. shotguns and all in-line muzzleloaders. This cleaning system makes a great gift for the hunter or sport shooter in your life.
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As of 29SEP17, here is what's ACTUALLY in the cleaning kit.
Small diameter 34" long cable (8-32 female threads on both ends)
Medium diameter 30" long cable (patch puller on one end, female threads for .17 brush other end)
Six brushes (see the image I included for the sizes, all 8-32 male thread)
3 screw-on patch pullers of varying sizes (8-32 male thread)
2 screw-on T handle adapters, large/small (also used to tap out bore obstructions, 8-32 male thread)
1 tapered T handle rod
1 Orange chamber flag and bore inspection tool
1 small tube of BIO cleaner lubricant and protectant
8-32 threaded rod (male to female adapter)
16-12-10 gauge patch plug
28-20-16 gauge patch plug
Small stack of Otis patches
Shown in the picture and in the product description that was NOT included:
8" pistol length cable
Shotgun brush threaded adapter
Small brass threaded adapter (possibly 8-32 male and .17 brush female threads)
Included but different from what was shown/described:
The Otis cleaner/lubricant/protectant is now a BIO version, presumably with less nasty petrochemicals. I haven't tried it, but that may be an improvement. The previous Otis CLP didn't smell as bad as most harsh bore solvents but it was still not healthy. The package still bears the warning for the petroleum solvent version and warns not to get it on your skin. I spilled the original Otis CLP on my hand and I tasted something like kerosene in my mouth a few minutes later, so apparently it contains very polar substances that cross into the bloodstream.
The smaller diameter cable that's used for cleaning .17 and .22 did not have the 8-32 female thread on either end. The picture shows both ends threaded so a brush or patch puller can be used on one end and the T handle adapter can be used on the other end. That's what I wanted. But no. We're back to the cable that's used in the Otis small caliber cleaning kit. I previously bought one of those little kits just to get the cable to replace one that I wore out, cursed when it had no 8-32 end, tossed it into the shooting junk box, and then a year later I forgot and did it again! This time I double checked but they sent the dreaded useless cable again, so now I have three cables that I don't use. The threaded end on the cable they sent is smaller than 8-32, as used for a .17 brush, but there is nothing in this entire kit that fits that smaller thread.
The 12 gauge brush that Otis supplies uses the standard pistol and rifle 8-32 thread, which is nice, but that's not the shotgun standard. If you buy a 12 gauge brush other than Otis, you'll need a threaded adapter.
CONCLUSION: I can't trust Otis to ship what's advertised. From previous experience, I knew better than to buy a kit and hope to get what I wanted. I mostly just wanted the three cables and the kit was the same price, but I only got one of the three cables that were advertised, so I basically paid $30 for one cable. I prefer to use a cable with Montana Extreme nylon brushes that won't dissolve in copper bore cleaner while continuing to show blue patches so I can't tell when the copper is out of a rifle bore. I prefer to wrap Hoppes Sontara synthetic patches around the nylon brushes to form a cylindrical swab, rather than trying to fold and then untie the Otis proprietary too-clever-by-half patches to form a small cone with limited surface area for cleaning. I prefer Bore Tech solvent and RemOil instead of any cleaner-lubricant-protectant with the compromises inherent in a universal product. I prefer a small Plano tackle box to the Otis kit that's mostly bulky packaging for a few components. Having a place for each item looks organized and can be a good way to avoid losing things because there's an obvious hole where something should be, but there is a lot of fiddling trying to poke the little parts into their niches. It's faster and easier to have a tiny divided tackle box with all the brushes in one compartment. A small hard plastic tackle box isn't much larger than the Otis kit but has a LOT more usable space. The Otis kit also has no room for expansion. All of that obsessive compulsive tidiness is destroyed as soon as you need to make the slightest deviation from their kit. From now on, I'm going to pay the higher price for the single Otis replacement cables and hope that Otis actually sens the cable that's advertised. Everything I've bought from Otis has been of excellent quality, but I never know what I'm going to get, and it's usually not what's advertised and it's not what I want.
-The system is well designed. I personally find the Otis system to be a perfect marriage between a boresnake and a traditional rod. I feel that I am getting the cleaning capability and modularity of a rod with the convenience, portability and idiot-proof usability of a snake.
-The actual packaging of the products is very well thought out. I am impressed with how compact the bag is, considering that it truly does contain everything you need to clean the bore of many different weapons.
-It works. Despite all the Cons I am about to list, the fact is I am entirely satisfied with this kit and plan to continue using it for the foreseeable future.
-While the components of the kit are acceptable quality, the case itself is a little shoddy. On the first day I broke a few non-essential plastic insert pieces with normal use. I would not be surprised if the internal structure of the case falls apart.
-As the most popular review of this product states, there are limitations to which bores this kit will clean. See the top review for more details.
-I have found that the patches are not very impressive quality. For all the talk, (and the admittedly clever folding system, which does work well), the patches are thin and leave a little lint.
-My last, and probably most significant concern is simply with the competency of Otis as a manufacturer. At the time of my purchase, they advertise size #35 and #38 brushes. You will notice that they include .380, 9mm, and 38 special in size #38, and .357 in size #35. While to they layman this makes sense, any serious shooter will recognize that this is non-nonsensical. The diameter of .38 special bullets is exactly the same as .357 bullets (which is why you can shoot .38 specials out of a gun chambered for .357 magnum), and .380 and 9mm bullets are actually slightly smaller, measuring in at .355".
I emailed Otis about this discrepancy, and to their credit, they were gracious in admitting their error and promised to correct their website at once. It still begs the question though, have they been sizing their brushes incorrectly this whole time?) They seem to work fine, but its a little concerning.
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My kit came with about 30 patches, 15 for big bore and 15 for .22 and smaller.
Aside from that, the cleaning system doesn't appear to work that well. Cleaning the barrel of my 12g shotgun didn't work that well as the black plug that you're supposed to use became dislodged (alongside the patch) in the barrel. A frustrating amount of time was spent using a cleaning rod to unjam this obstruction from my barrel. Ironic how I had to use my cleaning rod (which was supposed to be replaced by this Otis kit) to fix the issue.
For my AR15 (556), the system works okay with the small patches; however, at the end of each pull, the patch is barely hanging onto the cable which may lead to another obstruction I would have to fix with my cleaning rod. And yes, I followed the instructions on the guide on how to fold and loop the patch. This otis patch system doesn't inspire much confidence at all.
As for my handgun...I couldn't clean it because Otis did not include the small cable that was supposed to be part of my kit. Unfortunately, it is already beyond the 30-day return window.
To sum it up, I bought this kit to replace my existing tools and cleaning rods. In the end, I ended up reusing my old tools to clean my firearms because this system just didn't work. Not only did I not receive a cable (which was supposed to be included), but the patch system does not work well and has led to many issues. I'll try to incorporate this kit into my routine somehow (since it was expensive), but overall I am very unsatisfied.