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James Wesley Rawles

Rawles on Retreats and Relocation Unknown Binding – January 1, 2007

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ASIN ‏ : ‎ B002A6E7Q0
Publisher ‏ : ‎ Clearwater Press (January 1, 2007)
Item Weight ‏ : ‎ 1.08 pounds

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Samantha Landy

Informative!

Reviewed in the United States on October 12, 2010

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Mr. Rawles book was not only informative, but it is very specific, full of important data, product information, as well as an interesting read. I recommend it highly to anyone interested in this kind of information.

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J. Rodgers

Rawles on Retreats is Outdated -- Not Recommended

Reviewed in the United States on November 30, 2009

The "Retreats" book is outdated, with much incorrect & simply wrong info--to the point that it calls into question exactly when this material was written and how much fact-checking went into it.

For example, on page 60, Rawles cites Davis-Monthan AFB in Tucson as a primary nuclear target site due to the "Titan missiles, area within a line connecting [several towns surrounding Tucson]."

Those Titan II ICBM missiles were deactivated, the missiles removed, and all of the silos destroyed back in the mid-1980s. [Except for one silo in Green Valley area, which they turned into a museum--and which the Russians are still allowed to come over and inspect once in a while.]

When I say deactivated, I mean destroyed, the launch silos filled in with tons of concrete and debris and sand/dirt, the sliding door on top cut into pieces and thrown into the silos, and everything capped over with a permanent concrete plug, then covered with a layer of dirt.
These activities were done slowly and methodically, on a schedule pre-arranged with the Soviet Union so that they could monitor each step with "national technical means of verification" under the START Treaty.

After Tucson, all the other Titan II missiles at Little Rock AFB (Arkansas) and McConnell AFB (Kansas) got the same treatment.

Yet Rawles still lists all of these sites as still existing and as still primary targets for a nuclear attack from Russia. This is important because of how Rawles uses the predicted fallout patterns based on these target lists to drive his recommended retreat areas.

If those target sites are excluded...southern Arizona and points east become far more viable in a post-TEOTWAWKI scenario--although the presence of L.A. and San Diego to the west are still problematic, they are small potatoes compared to the heavy targeting that could have been expected against each individual Titan II silo around Tucson.

What is puzzling...is that all of this info is easily verified on Wiki and many other online sources, and has been since 1996 or so.

There are so many mistakes of this type, that the overall usefulness of the "Retreats" book is degraded. "Retreats" does include useful information...[...]

Until it is updated, I do not recommend that ANYONE buy the "Retreats" book. Wait for the next edition to come out, or buy it used, or borrow one from a friend.

Despite this negative review of "Retreats," I'm still a Rawles fan and a regular reader of his website. I bought and like his "How to Survive TEOTWAWKI" book, even though it does duplicate much information from his website. That's okay; the value of the TEOTWAWKI book is that it organizes those many blog articles & comments & inputs into a logical, coherent whole. Much more organized & a lot faster than just searching all of the individual daily threads on the website.
So, don't buy "Retreats" but do consider buying TEOTWAWKI.