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The Rhine Flows into the Tiber: A History of Vatican II Paperback – December 1, 1991
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separates Christians East and West. As a former Protestant who "went home to Rome" for
twenty years before ending up as an Eastern Orthodox Christian, I have some thoughts.
Not long after converting to Catholicism in 1969 I realized that something was liturgically
amiss. There were ominous shades of what I thought I had just left behind in
Protestantism. Like innumerable older Catholics, I found elements of the novus ordo to be
not only smacking of Lutheranism but simply banal in comparison to the numinosity of the
Tridentine mass. Even when said in the vernacular ("Oh," remarked my older Catholic
neighbor, "If only the 'liturgical experts' had merely forced us switch to the English
translation on the left sided pages of our paperback Roman missels...") the Tridentine mass,
despite its shortcomings (even Archbishop Lefebvre admitted that it needed fine tuning),
conveyed the numinosity (a vital concept for those who turn to the Orient for their worship!)
that I was only able to find 20 frustrating years later in St John Chrysostom's and St. Basil's
Divine Liturgy. One ex-Catholic, Orthodox priest had dryly observed that the Orthodox
Church was the church you thought you were joining when you joined the Roman Catholic
Years later when reading Monsignor Ralph Wiltgens' The Rhine Flows into the Tiber I was
able to make sense of my confusion. In the book, Father Wiltgens, a self-proclaimed liberal
who attended the Council, triumphantly maps the manner in which the northern European
theologians were able to hijack the direction, and thus the product, of the committee
dealing with the Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy.Read more ›
It made me wonder, what will the future bring? What will happen when more and more faithful become aware of where the postconciliar nonsense came from? What will happen when it becomes crystal clear that the Vatican II / Novus Ordo is a rupture (at best!) from true teaching? I'm certain we are on a collision course; the only question is when and how.
If you care about truth, you deserve to read this book.
(As an aside, there are so many interesting players in this epic event (Rahner, Ratzinger, Kung, Lefebvre, etc), that you may need to do as I did, and make a chart of who is who, and from where, and said what, and influenced whom. Those more visually inclined may benefit from a feltboard with cutouts and names of the key people, or perhaps a set of action figures to align in the various camps. This may seem comical but I think it would truly help to keep everyone straight.)
Most Recent Customer Reviews
Just finished reading this book and it is an amazing and concise account of the inner workings of the Council and the legislative battles that took place. Read morePublished 2 months ago by Nicholas Silva
This is a must read for those interested in the council. It's an observation view with little spin. Read morePublished 10 months ago by Jerry
I had been wanting to read this esteemed book for a long time now, but I was extremely disappointed in that it did not live up to its vaunted reputation. Read morePublished 13 months ago by J. Michael
The very best account, and the best interpretation of, the Second Vatican Council.Published 17 months ago by John Myler
I have found no better single volume on Vatican II. Professor Matttei, in his recent history of the Council, presents a great deal of detail, and perspective on many more of the... Read morePublished 20 months ago by William Meyer
To those who want an unbiased exposition on what went on behind the scenes of Vatican II, this is an excellent book. I think the human element of the Council (e.g. Read morePublished 20 months ago by La Fave
An amazing in-depth and impartial account of what exactly transpired during the Second Vatican Council. Read morePublished 21 months ago by Ruben Lamigueiro
This is another of the books that has long been on my "search" list, and has been out of print for some time. Read morePublished on May 25, 2014 by Margaret S.
This is an excellent history that jolted me into realizing that the Vatican II denomination is not the Catholic Church but is instead a modernist counterfeit. Read morePublished on March 3, 2012 by Eric M. Brown