Saeco Hd8869/47 Moltio Super Automatic Espresso Machine
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- Fully automated with the new patented milk carafe with dual chamber technology - simply pour milk into the carafe, plug it into the machine and select your coffee drink
- Dual chamber technology - you will always enjoy professional coffee drink with dense, long-lasting milk froth 1850 watts
- Quick heat boiler ensures your machine is always ready - prepare coffee after coffee
- Automatic coffee circuit rinse /Descaling cycle/ Adjustable coffee dispenser
- Cup holding surface/Rapid steam/Removable brewing group/Uses ground or whole coffee beans
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Saeco Moltio HD8869/47 espresso machine, a unique masterpiece crafted to offer a tailored taste experience. Coffee prepared in the authentic Italian method at the push of a button. Thanks to our exclusive bean switcher, preparing the right coffee that always matches your mood and the occasion will be as easy as a click. Saeco uses 100% ceramic grinders for a consistent grind without overheating the coffee bean for an impeccable espresso. Ceramic also ensures long-lasting performance and a totally silent operation
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After about 8 years my Jura started leaking. After call to customer service I was offered a deal $300 flat repair or trade in for new model. BTW Jura CS is very good.
We decided upgrade because our machine did not have built-in milk container and even we like various milk based coffees, we used steam wand maybe once or twice throughout the years because we considered it too much work. For new coffee maker we wanted one button operation. You press the button machine makes coffee and adds milk as needed.
After doing research we ended up looking at several models. One Jura but even with discount it was a little bit over then I was willing to pay. Delonghi was looking good, but we saw one in store and were not impressed with the look. Plus on the model we were looking at there was several bad reviews and complaints about CS. So we end up buying this model based on price features comparison. Plus I had to deal with Philips CS previously and I always end up talking to enthusiastic people eager to help…. One Side step… I called Saeco CS in a couple days after I purchased this Expresso maker, because I was looking for one function I was missing in comparison to my old one. Rep understood exactly what I want after we could not find this in manual she actually went to the lab where she actually tried reproducing this function and after we found that it is not exactly there she proposed reasonable work around. Plus she did make sure that I registered correctly and got extra 5 years of warranty.
Now lets talk features and ease of use.
I knew that this machine will be a little bit more complicated than my old one and it is.
Manual and quick start guide in my version were slightly different and because of this it took me extra couple min to figure out how to set it up.
Filters for this Saeco about $10 while $20 for my old Jura model.
Saeco has display which provides user with Symbols while jura was mostly verbal. Not a big deal, but it means I have to go review manual more often at least in beginning. Saying that I think Saeco’s menu is much easier to operate once I understood principles.
One thing I did not like about Saeco and it was the reason I called CS is that Jura provided very easy mechanism to change coffee length. While it was making coffee I could turn the nub and it would make exact amount I specify in oz or ml. This was extremely convenient because my wife likes large cups and I like either expresso or medium size. With Saeco they have two buttons (Besides specialty coffees I am not talking about them in this review because I have not tried them yet. Will update review at some point after I try them We run out of milk LOL.) One for espresso and one for coffee. Espresso makes about 30-40 ml and coffee makes about 100 ml.
You can double the amount by pressing button twice… Saeco wins here because even jura has double function I don’t think it grinds double amount of beans I think it just adds more water. With Saeco if you want make two cups it will actual make two cups. CS rep explained me how I could make custom length of the coffee similar to jura. Jura wins in that department.
1. With jura I always know how much coffee going to be made and I can adjust.
2. With saeco you don’t know how much coffee was made last time and saved in memory
3. Whole process to change length of the coffee little bit convoluted in comparison to jura.
Now most important thing quality of coffee Saeco definitely wins.
1. Coffee grinds in the medium settings are much smaller.
2. Extraction is much better. In Jura I always used Strong settings in Saeco I use default medium and I think it is too much. Same coffee beans come out much darker and foam is definitely way better.
I believe there are two factors that may account for the poor quality of the crema in this machine. First, after grinding the beans, the part that compresses the coffee grounds may not be doing a good compression. Second, the coffee "Dispensing Spout" is too high above the cup resulting in thin crema full of air bubbles regardless of the adjustments that one can make in the height of the spout. This is disappointing and unacceptable.
The front load water reservoir is one of those things that you don't really think you need until you've had it. The removable bean hopper has enough clearance to be taken out even when the machine is on the counter under a cabinet.
All in all, I'm very satisfied with my purchase. I will keep updating this review should any issues arise.