Saitek X52 Pro Flight System Controller
We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock.
- Make sure this fits by entering your model number.
- Advanced Multi-Function Display (MFD) for real flying interaction
- 2 dedicated MFD buttons and 2 rotary dials with in-built buttons to control additional game functionality
- Joystick with precision centering mechanism, non-contact technology on X and Y axes and constant spring force
- Progressive throttle with tension adjustment, detents for afterburner and idle; 2 fire buttons
- Works with: Windows XP, XP64 and Vista (all versions) and Windows 7
Customers who viewed this item also viewed
More to consider from our brands
What other items do customers buy after viewing this item?
Have a question?
Find answers in product info, Q&As, reviews
Your question may be answered by sellers, manufacturers, or customers who purchased this item, who are all part of the Amazon community.
Please make sure that you are posting in the form of a question.
Please enter a question.
From the manufacturer
Closer to Reality
The X52 Pro boasts an upgraded multifunction LCD which shows in-game data in real time, a progressive throttle with tension adjustment, plus an adjustable joystick with a self-centering mechanism. The X52 Pro takes all the standout features from the original X52 and elevates them to a higher altitude.
- Progressive Spring Force on Throttle and Joystick
- Interactive MFD Screen Displays Crucial In-Sim Info
- PC Programming Software Creates Custom Profiles
Dual-Spring Centering Mechanism
A highly accurate centering mechanism ensures the joystick will easily return to the neutral position after you let go. Non-contact technology on the X and Y axes enhance control while increasing durability. And, the stick becomes more resistant as it moves farther away from the center position.
Advanced Grip Adjustment System
A five-position handle adjustment system conforms to your grip style and hand size. And to promote maximum comfort during long flights, the joystick’s handle also features contours which harmonize with your digits.
3D Twist with Rudder Lock
The joystick’s twist rudder controls add another dimension of command to simulated flight. If you prefer more traditional control, a rudder lock switch disables the twist capabilities and confines input to the X and Y axes – ideal for use with Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals (sold separately).
Progressive Throttle with Resistance Adjustment
The throttle unit’s progressive functionality improves aircraft response. Detents – physical markings indicating where a certain action takes places – simplify control of your plane’s idle and reverse thrusters. Yet another customizable feature found on the X52 Pro, a tension adjustment dial lets you change the throttle’s resistance to suit the way you fly.
Multifunction LCD Display
The X-52 Pro’s LCD screen – with adjustable backlighting – enables you to view information about your button configurations with only a quick glance. Even more beneficial is the ability to directly manipulate radio stack information in FSX, X-Plane, Prepar3D, and most flight simulation software. You can then use the buttons residing below the Multifunction Display (MFD) to cycle through essential radio stack functions. A downloadable Software Development Kit allows you to create your own MFD interactions.
Powerful Programming Software (PC Only)
After installing downloadable software, you are then free to create custom profiles for different flight sims. A trio of mode settings and a pinkie switch provide enhanced programming options for even more control in your favorite sim. And, all button programming is color coded. Assign a color to each button’s tri-state LED, and then make adjustments via controller settings within joy.cpl (Game Controllers).
Flight Simulation Software Compatibility
- FSX - Flight Simulator X (PC only)
- X-Plane 10 (PC and Mac)
- Prepar3D 2.2 (PC only)
- DCS World
- IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Stalingrad
- War Thunder
- World of Warplanes
- Star Citizen
- Elite: Dangerous
- Most Other Flight Simulation, Combat Simulation, and Space Simulation Software
Compare with similar items
Thrustmaster 2960778 T.16000M FCS HOTAS Controller
Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X Flight Stick (PS3 & PC)
Logitech G X52 Flight Control System
|Sold By||—||Amazon.com||ShipExpress||Value Stock|
|Hardware Platform||PC||PC (Windows 10, 8, 7, Vista)||pc, mac, linux||PC|
|Item Dimensions||15.00 x 9.00 x 10.00 inches||9.01 x 10.39 x 10.70 inches||7.48 x 5.31 x 1.18 inches||14.33 x 10.04 x 8.98 inches|
All the features of the X52 combined with premium engineering and advanced Multi-Function Display (MFD) for real flying interaction. 2 dedicated MFD buttons and 2 rotary dials with in-built buttons to control additional game functionality; MFD displays data directly from games, including Radio Stack info from Microsoft Flight Simulator 9 and 10; Software Development Kit included for creating game-specific programs to interact with the MFD; Choice of red, amber or green button illumination; Illuminated buttons and MFD - ideal for low light environments; Throttle unit illumination varies depending on throttle position; Enhanced MFD backlighting; Improved cable management system. Joystick: Precision centering mechanism, non-contact technology on X and Y axes and constant spring force reduce free play, improve control and increase durability; 2-stage metal trigger; 2 primary buttons in 1 convenient position; 4 fire buttons including missile launcher with spring-loaded safety cover for instant access; Conveniently positioned metal pinkie switch provides shift functionality to double up on programmable commands; 2 X 8-way Hat Switches; 3D rudder twist; 3-position rotary mode selector switch with LED indicators; 3 spring-loaded, base-mounted toggle switches for up to 6 programmable flight commands; 5-position handle adjustment system to suit all hand sizes. Throttle: Progressive throttle with tension adjustment, detents for afterburner and idle; 2 fire buttons; Scroll wheel with built-in button; Mouse controller / hat switch with left mouse button; 8-way hat switch; 2 x rotary controls; Smooth-action slider control; Clutch button initiates ‘safe mode’ to allow on-the-fly profile selection, or to display button functionality without activating. Compatibility: Windows 7, XP/XP64, and Vista
Warranty does not cover misuse of product.
Visible screen diagonal
670" / 1701 cm
There was a problem filtering reviews right now. Please try again later.
Physically, this is a great flight controller. It has great ergonomics and a great and easy to use control layout. If it wasn't for one GLARING issue with it, this flight stick would be rated at 5 stars instead of 1. What is the one major issue that brought it down from 5 stars to 1 you may ask? One word. DRIVERS. The drivers for this product are HORRENDOUS and any issues basically render your fancy new flight controller a expensive plastic paperweight. Seriously, I have NEVER come across any driver for any product that was so horribly and sloppily programed. Its like it was programmed by a "beginners c++" class just after they completed their first "hello world" assignment. WHEN the driver breaks, simply uninstalling it and re installing wont fix it. Oh no, that would be way too easy according to madcatz. Now you might say "oh, why dont you just go and clear out the registry entries, that will definitely fix it" but guess what, THAT DOESN'T WORK EITHER. The only way i found to get the x52 pro working again once the driver breaks due to a small windows update that changed the font of the calendar is do a CLEAN INSTALL OF WINDOWS. If i have to reinstall my entire operating system because of a botched driver for a $180, you have a faulty product. It is utterly unacceptable, especially in this day and age. Now, with all that said, there may be a new driver on the way as saitek was recently purchased by logitech who's drivers from my experience have been relatively problem free, but until then i would avoid this product. The headache is just not worth it.
Some misfortunes or bugs with previous versions, the Saitek X45 had a very stiff spring within the joystick causing significant problems. Also, the X45 suffered a loose connection on the throttle controller connector to the joystick, and had to resplice the cable. The Saitek X36 only had 32 bit drivers, but there are open source drivers with the additional bug of not being Signed Drivers, causing boot problems with later versions of MS Windows. These previous controllers had the wonderful embedded rudder within the throttle.
So far, I am extremely impressed by the quality of workmanship after just a few hours! Initially, I thought this was going be another plastic toy I was going to live to regret purchasing.
# lsusb -v
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 06a3:0762 Saitek PLC Saitek X52 Pro Flight Control System
idVendor 0x06a3 Saitek PLC
idProduct 0x0762 Saitek X52 Pro Flight Control System
Linux Driver: joystick
Windows Driver: Windows Update and Saitek Website. Both, Windows Update and the Saitek Website drivers are the same.
1) The colors and lighting are very conservative. As opposed to the color of the X45 looking like a toy from a childs' toy boxes. (NOTE: Many of the photos of this joystick on the Internet, have the LED's at maximum brightness. It is far more likely common to significantly reduce the brightness within the driver settings.)
2) The main joystick spring is much lighter than the X45, fixing the previously mentioned bug. Matter of fact, I just noticed the main joystick rod is made of metal, which effectively allows for a smoother bearing surface compared to using plastic! Any future problems can be easily mitigated by a drop of oil.
3) On MS Windows 8, Saitek drivers installed easily and cleanly, separate of any bloat ware. (ie. Other less useful or possibly buggy software.)
4) There are three colors within each of the LED lights! (ie. Green for Common Buttons, Yellow for Counter Measures, Red for Fire or Braking.) With the numerous buttons, this helps to identify buttons that are not easily labeled!
5) A three toggles at the base of the joystick, providing an additional six switches. (ie. Map one toggle to recenter view.)
6) Mode switch might be more well placed near the joystick top hat axis, with an associated three color blue purple red to each of the three modes, to help identify which mode the joystick is currently in.
7) Throttle display, displays three time zones including GMT.
8) Main triggers have hardware mechanical switching, while other buttons have similar quality switching mechanisms. All of which, seem to be superior to previous models of this joystick!
9) The twist rudder within the joystick, can be disabled by a sliding mechanism within the joystick. (ie. You have rudder pedals or prefer to fly without rudder.) I have noticed, it's best to use the joystick twist rudder when flying helicopters. Using additional rudder pedals might provide additional rudder control, during times the twist rudder is commonly inadequate during stressful flight dynamics. Flying helicopters without the embedded throttle rudder or joystick twist rudder, solely depending on floor rudder pedals, is almost virtually impossible or extremely difficult within the current computer simulations or games.
1) NO Embedded Rudder Controller within the Throttle Handle! The rudder is now embedded within the main joystick axis as a twist, which is hated by most. However, was likely engineered to free the throttle handle for other features, buttons and axis. Workaround is to buy a set of rudder peddles, and will likely provide a better simulated experience?
2) Not sure if MS Windows 8 provides default drivers for the joystick or rudder pedal for this X52, but if they do, they will likely omit such features as controlling the LED light levels and colors, for which most of us dislike not needed bright lighting. Also, default Windows drivers will likely omit setting the throttle time zones.
3) Stupid safety cover for the fire button. On my X45, I simply taped the thing in the open position. (Who cares if I accidentally use it? It's just a game. ;-) On this X52, the cover does halfway stick open and has a neat effect of turning the LED green when closed.
4) My throttle LED display flickers. All other LED's have a steady consistent glow. No apparent loose connections and have tried multiple powered USB ports. This looks to be due to the dimness of the LED display on the throttle, being lowered further than it's specifications causing a flicker effect. (I'll choose to ignore the flicker, as I prefer the dim display.)
5) I brought the device from outside 30F temperatures and all knobs were very stiff. After warming to ~69F, the knobs moved much more easily.
6) There is a catch at minimum and maximum thrust axis. Likely for locking the thrust and preventing further movement of the thrust axis when on ground, or locking into afterburner or maximum thrust while in flight. But over all, it might be more annoying to some, such as when flying a helicopter. (Shrugs, not really much concern currently.)
7) The style or feeling of gripping the controls at first, seems a little awkward as compared to previous versions; such as the X36 and X45. After a few hours or so, I'm getting much more accustomed.
8) About the only really significant Con so far and I noticed almost immediately, the two dial knobs on the throttle have a difficult to feel center, due to the center notch or dimple on the axis not being significant enough. The bottom knob on the throttle controller is very stiff and difficult to turn, while the top knob is slightly easier to turn. (Past versions had adequate easily turning knobs with a definite feel for the center of axis.)
9) For the past twelve hours, I ran into a bunch of .NET errors with the Saitek Profiling software, resulting in MS Windows 8 crashes. Avoiding it's usage and only depending on Saitek's drivers, seems to preserve stability.
10) I avoid the Saitek Profiling or Programming software and, at most and when needed I only use Saitek's drivers. Saitek's Profiling software, along with it's interface drivers are subject to cause operating system instabilities. More specifically, the Saitek Programming or Profiler Direct Output or Direct Input driver is the cause of problems. Again, especially users of Windows 8, avoid the Saitek Profiler or Programming software and only install the device driver! (I have been getting operating system crashes with something in reference to "IRQ NOT LESS THAN", I simply uninstalled the software after the second kernel level crash.)
So far, Con #8 is probably the only significant degrading factor, but even then, I am still thoroughly impressed! If you have one of the older X36 or X45 controllers, probably a good time to upgrade even though you might have to purchase additional rudder pedals.
That's it for now.
Again, a very nice product.
HACKS AND FIXES
1) Plugs keep pulling out. To prevent this, use a hot glue gun to place a ring of hot glue around the plug. This pretty much solves the problem, but isn't pretty. Additionally, use two eight inch wire ties to tie the plugs wire to one of the empty eye wholes within two corners of both the base units. (Both bases of the joystick and throttle controller have two empty eye wholes.)
2) Can't feel the middle axis for X and Y axis. The throttle controller has had some really excessive grease used on some of the axis, such as the X and Y rotation axis. (ie. "E" and "!" button axis.) The excessive grease prevents the indention device from signalling the middle of the axis. This can be solved by removing the throttle controller cover, using a mixture of small philips screwdrivers, averting having to open the base. Once open, the rotation axis plastic gears and plastic bearing surfaces can be cleaned using something like a 50/50 mixture of Ammonia and vinegar to aide in breaking plastic safe grease. The X rotation axis ("!" button) has a spring indention device that may buckle underneath the bearing surface, or at least mine was malfunctioning due to unsecured plastic pins holding this metal spring in place. Use a hot glue gun to place a small dab of glue at the base of the two plastic pins while making sure the metal spring is raised above the middle of the plastic bearing surface. This ensures the spring relaxes to at least the middle of the bearing surface, while also ensure the spring does not slip off the plastic bearing surface. The Y axis (or "E" button axis) can be cleaned of the excess grease, but to remove all the grease, the four or five tiny phillips screws need to be removed from the face of the button, which are underneath the plastic outer snap-in rippled ring. Care needs to be used to prevent stripping the heads of these screws. Removing and clean is then trivial. When replacing the gears, have the Windows Control Panel joystick game controller software open to find the center of the axis, and then insert the gear and place the spring into the dimple on the bearing surface.
3) Excessive force is required when moving the throttle to maximum or minimal axis. Open the bottom base of the throttle controller. On the plastic plate, there is an indenting device placing force on the plastic bearing axis of the throttle. Lift of the plastic or rubber indenter and you'll find two small springs. You can remove one of the springs. You may also desire to remove some of the grease per #2 above, but I haven't bothered as removing one springs seems have solved this issue.
4) Flickering Lights. I tried looking for loose wires and have found none that I can see. From the amount of grease used on the axis, including electronic axis swivels, it is possible this grease maybe shorting the power from the device. However nothing I do seems to reproduce any flicker. I have found mention on the Cypress Semiconductor website concerning something about a firmware bug within their Cypress Semiconductor CY7C64215-56L TXC controller chip causing problems between 3.3v and 5v devices. Cypress has published a fix, but it's kind of unknown whether Saitek has pushed this fix into their devices. I initially contacted Saitek by email about this issue, but they have dropped subsequent follow-ups for return or replacement. So I've taken it upon myself to figure some of the problems and provide possible fixes. If while removing the covers, you find you need to loosen some wires secured by hot glue from the manufacturer, the hardened glue will break it's bond easily with the plastic parts and wires with a little pressure applied with a small screw driver. Hot glue can then be easily reapplied.
2013.10.16 - I have reduced the star rating from five star to three star after noticing excessive grease used within the X and Y rotation axis on the throttle controller. (ie. "E" and "!" button axis) Also, the throttle axis has too much tension on a indenting device, causing using maximum and minimum throttle to require excessive force. The solution for this problem is to remove one of the two springs providing force on the indenting device. Switching the LED display to use the two lowest level causes the throttle lights to flicker. I'm not sure if it's caused by excessive grease applied to the axis control slider, loose connection, or a bug with the firmware embedded within the Cypress Semiconductor CY7C64215-56L TXC controller chip within the throttle controller. (The firmware bug mentions something about a 3.3v and 5v bug.) Added some fixes.
Pros - Smooth, and precise control, feels like you got your money's worth. Lots, and lots of customization with the software. Lots of buttons and hats to keep me keyboard-free in Elite:Dangerous. Programmable LEDs.
Cons - Suction cups could be better. Could use a bit more weight.
The pros here outweigh the cons imo. If you're looking for something to play Elite with, this is an excellent option, if you can spare the cash.
Top international reviews
I am now able to fully endorse this product as working correctly and think it an excellent buy for Elite Dangerous (that's what I purchased it for)
With some considerable assistance from Madcatz, the correct drivers from their site at the time of writing this are:-
Saitek_X52Pr0_Flight_Controller_7_0_34_109_ (either 32 or 64 depending upon your OS)_Drivers_pfw.exe
Smart Technology 7_0_27_13 (either 32 or 64 depending upon your OS)_Drivers_pfw.exe
This installs the following along with the correct drivers
Smart Technology Programming Software 184.108.40.206
Saitek Direct Output 220.127.116.11
- "Black Keyboard X55" - This is the X55 joystick
- "Joystick" - That's the X52 (non-Pro version)
- "Simulator Contoller (sic)" - That's the X52 Pro, which is the one I'm reviewing.
If you have Elite Dangerous and you've glanced down in your cockpit, you'll see a keyboard and throttle that look an awful lot like the X52 Pro. And as you move the real joystick and throttle, the virtual ones move to match. So if you want it to look real (and especially if you're planning to use a VR headset), this is the joystick to go for.
Elite Dangerous will autodetect the joystick, and will load sensible key mappings. I've changed mine just a little. You will need to install the Saitek software, but just to disable the "clutch" button on the throttle, and optionally to change some of the LED colours if you want to. You should NOT load a "profile" (keyboard mapping to the joystick buttons) as Elite Dangerous supports the joystick natively. If you want to make any changes, do it in the Options menu in the game.
Having played with a perfectly good Logitech joystick for a year, the Saitek took my Elite Dangerous gaming experience to a different level. I've heard other people talk about reliability issues with the Saitek equipment but so far I haven't had any trouble at all with mine - other than the LEDs on the throttle not always coming on when I boot my computer, and that doesn't hugely bother me.
Note for Star Citizen players: At present, Star Citizen does not natively support all the features of the X52 Pro, so you will probably need to find a profile (there are some available for download if you look for them). Once again, you can alter the mappings to suit your preference.
The Saitek X52 Pro Josystick/Throttle set (and the accompanying pedal set, should you wish to acquire them) have clearly been designed [and priced] towards the serious end of the flight simulation / gaming market. So: what do you get; and, perhaps more importantly, are they worth it?
The two supplied units are fashioned from a reasonably heavy duty, injection-moulded plastic, supplied with soft rubber feet which provide a perfect non-slip grip on my (varnished wood) desk and have the size and bulk to remain in place even when things get exciting. The units are connected by a removable cable with connectors of the PS/2 keyboard style (cable approx 1.65 metres in length) and a slightly shorter USB cable of 1.45 metres in length, to connect to your PC/console.
In general use, the torsional strength of the springs used in these two units are extremely good - the weighting is firm not flimsy, but not so strong as to be fatiguing. The resistance of the throttle is perfectly balanced and showing no signs of slackening off after 4 months of solid use. However, the first major weakness of this set relates to the springing design for the joystick. There is a "dead area", a small zone of slack, which permits the joystick to just "flop" loosely, at the apex of it's travel. This dead zone allows the uppermost tip of the stick to move approx 7mm in pitch and 7mm in roll without the potentiometers engaging. I have to say I find this to be incredibly frustrating - it makes fine adjustments to flight direction almost impossible [requiring constant correction] and it is absolutely not something I'd expect after 4 months of gentle use from a control set costing over £100.
Unlike other reviewers I had no trouble with installing the software on Windows 10 Pro, although I would concede that after installation there is no confirmation of success and no obvious Start Menu application to refer to should you want to configure things. You have to right-click on the applet in the system tray...
I have tried [and failed dismally] in attempts to configure this joystick for use with older games; that might be just me, but bear in mind that this kit is a *big* step up from your basic Logitech Wingman... My only real gripe comes with the huge array of function buttons offered; with complex games like Elite Dangerous every single button does something, but remembering the load-out for infrequently used controls is not easy. Rather than spend money on things like 3 different coloured "mode" switches, I'd much rather have [for example] the ability to slide some thin card/paper label strips across the 3, 2-way buttons on the base of the joystick, so I can label them up... [or maybe even extend the LCD panel to both units.
Final concern relates to cabling. If your PC is positioned to the right of your gaming area and if you position the joystick for your right hand and the throttle for your left, you might find [as I have] that the USB connection cable is a bit short. Unfortunately, this one is fixed to the throttle base, so your only option is a convetional USB extender. Not ideal, but not the end of the world...
1. Overall good build quality, with solid materials and a thoughtful design. The moements and actions for the throttle in particular are both weighted and "expensive". The throttle unit oozes quality.
2. Extensive ability to customise the set, with a huge range of buttons distributed across the units.
3. LCD panel in the throttle unit can be configured by game software that recognises it...
4. Popularity of this model means that many games will recognise it out-of-the-box and pre-configure themselves with major controls working in a mostly logical way
5. For the serious fan, the set can be extended with a full set of rudder pedals; for the rest of us, the control column of the joystick has a twisting rudder action...
1. Expensive for a joystick set, even one of this quality
2. The cabling setup does not anticipate PCs located to the right of the player; it would be wonderful if the PC connection cable could be linked to either unit, instead of being hard-wired to only one
3. My set has a dead zone near "dead centre" that makes for incredibly annoying attempts to "centre on to" a remote destination when playing Elite. Requires constant correction. Argh.
4. The down side of having such a wealth of function buttons, which means that remembering what they all do is a problem... Could be solved either with an integrated holder and card markup strips, or more use of LCD panels such as the one integrated into the base of the throttle unit...
Overall: a polished, sophisticated and more-than-capable top-end gaming joystick that generally does a brilliant job of delivering an engaging gaming experience. Let down only by a couple of minor design oddities and a disappointing lack of build quality [with respect the dead-centre issue]. Just about earns a recommend, but only just...
The joystick eventually developed a drift and the dead zone would have to be adjusted in software, which made the whole thing slightly less accurate. Eventually, my wonderful partner bought me an X55 which has been rock solid, and she's inherited this slightly creaky setup. It works OK most of the time, but for something you pay over £200 for, I feel it should last longer than a year.
the joystick part has 6 momentary switches (bottom looks like 3), one hat, a mode selector, trigger and pinky trigger that are all in metal. all the other parts, although they are plastic, feel sturdy and i expect them to last a long time, including the "safe" flip-up switch which reveals and red button.
the grips on both parts feel very nice and solid for plastic, they have a nice "rubber on top of hard plastic" feel. the movement of the joystick feels very nice and smooth, its quite light which his just how i like it but isn't too wobbly. i dont need to attatch the included rubber suckers but i may do in the future as both parts can slightly budge in a game session on occasion (its perfectly bearable and in frequent). however im using a wooden desk, they would stay put better on a plastic coated desk i think.
all is good, elite dangerous is so much more fun now, especially with voice attack and verity to control all my other little functions and toggles.
recommend for elite dangerous plays and probably any other flight sim
The throttle is designed for one direction only. There is no neutral position to "park" the throttle in the middle; and at each end of the throttle range it has a "click" to lock the throttle down. You are suppose to use a button to reverse the throttle speed, which is much quicker than pulling the throttle back and fore. I set the range of the throttle to end before reaching the lock position at each end to avoid the "clicks" locking the throttle in position.
The programmable LED lights feature is useful but the lights flicker if the setting is low. I disabled the LED on the information panel but it comes back on occasionally!?
Overall, I am very please with the joystick, with those extra buttons and larger range of movement, it is better than the Thrustmaster but I am not sure it is worth those extra money. For me, the Thrustmaster's throttle stick and the rear rocker button was giving me RSI, maybe due to my hand size; but the RSI is much improved after using the X52 Pro. So it's worth the money to me!
I use it with my Oculus Rift and the immersion is amazing. the profile that's already built into Elite works perfectly and the buttons are where you would expect them to be (although a few tweaks have been made for my preference).
I would recommend to anyone thinking of getting this however to have a decent surface to attach it to (comes with sticky feet) as when you throttle back or forward suddenly it's easy to lift the stick off the table if you don't have the suction pads properly attached (which is a bit of an immersion killer)
was debating getting the vanilla version (x52 standard) but for £30 difference, this is totally worth it.
Anyway this stick is a mid ranged hotas with lots and lots of buttons in all the right places.Its Modelled on a fighter throttle and joystick but leands toward the sci fi vibe. Almost all bthe trigger buttons light up in red green or amber using the included software.
The rotary knob on the right side of the joystick changes through the three sets of programmable button macro templates. Press a trigger, enter the keyboard combination and select the led colour and youre all ready to go.
Its robustly build but the 5 pin din plugs that join the throttle and joystick is a bit exposed. It could have done with being recessed. Other than that normal use should see it last a good few years.
I ordered this product based on numerous positive reviews and my initial experience was quite disappointing. Starting with the criticisms first, beyond the good looking design, the product is mostly made of plastic and it feels so. However, it's well built and -hopefully- should last for a few years.
The sensors on both controllers are not as accurate as advertised. Also, the stick fails to register movements near the edges (especially near the bottom end). Finally, I found the rudder to be quite stiff for long hours on a helicopter simulator; The buttons and switches look and feel all right.
The software configuration was tricky. The product comes with old software drivers. I spent a couple of hours trying to set it up with X plane 10 64bit, then I downloaded the latest drivers from Mad Catz. Eventually... it worked.
The flight stick is adjustable to the size of the user's palm and both controllers are very comfortable to use. The buttons and switches are solid, with mechanical "click" when pressed/depressed. The rotary and slide controllers are not as good, they feel cheap. The LED lights are dim-able, via the software configuration settings.
Despite my initial disappointment, after a few hours of flight simulation I was very much enjoying the game and the X52 contributed to that.
Overall, I think the product could be of better quality for its price tag and, for this reason, I would only recommend it with caution but, then, there isn't much competition in this market.
Upon installing the pre-packaged software my windows 7 computer experienced numerous and very serious problems including internet freezing, video not playing, as well as not booting up or shutting down. I had to reset it at the mains many times.
I understand from support forums that many people experience very unpredictable problems from these devices. It took me hours to fix and for me the solution ended up being installing an older and hard to find version of the drivers that was linked by someone on an Elite Dangerous forum, if they hadn't of linked that, or if I hadn't found it, this device would have been worse than unusable.
I am used to stuff just workinfg when you plug it in. I would warn people away from this device just for how much trouble it was however now that it is working I am very happy with it and happily blowing up spacships in asteroid belts.
First a few negatives - As many others have commented in reviews and videos this controller feels cheap in your hands and a bit light weight. My first unit arrived with defective buttons on the stick and so Amazon replaced it without question a day later.
For Elite Dangerous this Hotas is on point - the hat on the throttle makes a perfect thruster control and despite what others might say - there are enough buttons to do most things - if you really need more, switch modes effortlessly with the flick of a thumb and configure each button for multiple roles.
The adjustable hand support on the stick makes this a joy to use for those with smaller hands like myself making it effortless to reach all the buttons save those ridiculously placed at the base of the stick (I have got used to this but it means letting go of one controller to engage a button). The stick itself is very sensitive and doesnt feel as tight as you might expect it to be. With a light touch you can execute some very deft manoeuvres so its worth getting used to this rather than trying to mod it.
The serial connection between controllers is annoying but I can live with it.
Overall i'm happy and I feel the button layout is mostly well considered unlike the X55 which I have no plans to upgrade to, especially since there is not support for smaller hands. The Hotas feels lightweight but delivers razor fine precision when i need it and is highly customisable. Time will tell if it will stand up to years of abuse.
- Firstly, unlike many review state, NOT ALL lights are customisable/dimmable, be prepared to use blue tack if you play in a dimly lit room.
- The silver thumb switch on the stick is not comfortable to use with its rings of sharp edges.
- The 3 paddle switches on the base of the stick feel very cheap and wobbly, but they work which is the main thing
- Not enough digital buttons on the thrust and too many difficult to use analogue ones
- The thumb mouse on the thrust is impossible to use for what it was intended, good luck moving the mouse to where you want it to go to!
- The max and min click points of the thrust are really annoying and pointless - there is a guide to removing them on youtube but will void your warranty so I've not done that yet, will do though once the period has past and if it's still working by then.
- The screen and buttons on the base are almost pointless for most games and when dimmed, the backlight flickers like mad. The only good thing about that bit is the clock and stopwatch... yes, that's it I'm afraid...
- The (i) button is useless as far as I can tell
- I tried creating profiles but applying them simply crashes my computer (Win 8.1, an i7 with 16GB ram) so the profile switcher on the stick has never been used.
So like I said, other than these gripes, I love this piece of kit. But it's expensive for what you actually get... but there are no real alternatives if you want the twisty stick (a must in my opinion).
Whilst it is being replaced by the newer X55 Rhino, the single throttle & stick HOTAS X52pro still packs a great punch and if you are upgrading from a non throttle stick, should definitely be on your list of contenders if you can still find stock.
Plenty of buttons & hats
Reasonable stick accuracy with a light travel mechanism (stiffer as you reach extremities).
Twist stick for YAW
Sucker pads for sticking to desk
Not as accurate as more expensive sticks
When I first owned the stick it wa great, having come from the Saitek Fly5, the much smoother and less heavy stick movement made the world of difference in the Elite Dangerous Alpha build I was playing. All the HAT & Switch options meant that I could virtually ignore the keyboard and mouse.
Alas the dual stage trigger failed on me after 3 months and it started inheriting bad deadzones in the Lateral axis.
After contacting MadCatz (who asked me to deal with Amazon directly) I returned the stick and alas as there were no replacement units available, I received a full refund.
Loved the stick and probably would have been happy with a direct replacement, but quality issues are very much worth noting. I have since upgraded to the ThrustMaster Warthog.