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Self-Editing for Fiction Writers, Second Edition: How to Edit Yourself Into Print 2nd ed. Edition, Kindle Edition

4.6 4.6 out of 5 stars 1,578 ratings

Hundreds of books have been written on the art of writing. Here at last is a book by two professional editors to teach writers the techniques of the editing trade that turn promising manuscripts into published novels and short stories.

In this completely revised and updated second edition, Renni Browne and Dave King teach you, the writer, how to apply the editing techniques they have developed to your own work. Chapters on dialogue, exposition, point of view, interior monologue, and other techniques take you through the same processes an expert editor would go through to perfect your manuscript. Each point is illustrated with examples, many drawn from the hundreds of books Browne and King have edited.

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"A superb tutorial for anyone wanting to learn from pros how to polish fiction writing with panache.""--Library Journal"

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Hundreds of books have been written on the art of writing. Here at last is a book by two professional editors to teach writers the techniques of the editing trade that turn promising manuscripts into published novels and short stories. Renni Browne and Dave King are two of the country's best-known independent editors. In their years as president and senior editor of The Editorial Department, they have edited the work of many writers - including bestselling authors - before the manuscripts went out to agents or publishers. Over half the manuscripts worked on to completion eventually got published, and over half that number were first novels. In this book Browne and King teach you, the writer, how to apply the editing techniques they have developed to your own manuscript, in order to bring your manuscript to its fullest potential. Chapters on dialogue, exposition, interior monologue and other techniques take you through the same processes an expert fiction editor would go through to perfect your manuscript. Each point is illustrated with examples, many drawn from the hundreds of books Browne and King have edited. Every chapter contains hands-on exercises to help you apply these techniques to your own work. And illustrations by New Yorker cartoonist George Booth keep everything in perspective.

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  • ASIN ‏ : ‎ B003JBI2YI
  • Publisher ‏ : ‎ HarperCollins e-books; 2nd ed. edition (June 3, 2010)
  • Publication date ‏ : ‎ June 3, 2010
  • Language ‏ : ‎ English
  • File size ‏ : ‎ 368 KB
  • Text-to-Speech ‏ : ‎ Enabled
  • Screen Reader ‏ : ‎ Supported
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  • Print length ‏ : ‎ 292 pages
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4.6 out of 5 stars
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Customers find the book packed with examples and exercises, and appreciate the fresh clarity in showing versus telling. They also say it's worth every minute, with an appealing sense of humor. Opinions differ on the writing style, with some finding it slyly, hoarse, and garishly written, while others find it practically unreadable and inane.

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353 customers mention "Content"341 positive12 negative

Customers find the book packed with examples and exercises, and say it's an excellent manual for anyone likely to find themselves in the role. They say it provides great information to look for in self-editing your own books. Customers also say it gives them a stronger understanding of the editing process and helps them create. They also say the simplest suggestions are the best, and it enriches the stories submitted. Readers also mention that the book covers common problems with point of view, character, dialogue, and practical tips.

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"...put in his own books simply because it's condensed into a short, easily readable, book without an ounce of BS in it anywhere...." Read more

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Customers find the book worth every minute, an exceptional resource, and a great investment for aspiring writers. They also say it lives up to its best-selling status.

"...This book is especially valuable for those who are pursuing publication, as (so it's said) the publishing houses don't edit like they used to...." Read more

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"...the difference (and value) of both showing and telling are worth the price of the volume, and I can attest to more than one recent project in which..." Read more

"...Writers, Second Edition" by Renni Browne and Dave King is an exceptional resource that caters to both novice and experienced writers...." Read more

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Customers find the humor in the book appealing, interesting, and contemporary. They also say the tone of the book is interesting and the use of examples is good.

"...They're not writers, although their prose is always spot-on, humorous, never condescending if sometimes stinging..." Read more

"...The authors' humor was dry and delicious. Excercises were challenging and benefitial, but beware instructions. I sometimes took them too literally...." Read more

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Customers find the book short, concise, and not overly wordy. They also say it's to the point.

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Customers find the book helpful for narrative nonfiction, as it goes into dialogue, how to write sophisticated sentences, characters, and detail. They also appreciate the pointers on style and developing their own unique voice.

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"...And then it also includes some well narrated sections on pace, sound, voice, beat and other components of the writing craft that cannot be addressed..." Read more

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Customers have mixed opinions about the writing style. Some find it garishly, grammatically correct, and to-the-point. They also say it covers everything and gives the artist a slightly different perspective. However, others say it's practically unreadable, the captions under the illustrations are handwritten so sloppily, and the finished manuscript is not perfect.

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Highly recommend this to all fiction writers!
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Highly recommend this to all fiction writers!
Most excellent book! I read a lot of books on the craft of writing and several regurgitate information or what works for that writer. This book is NOT like that. It is a book that will truly open your eyes to ways to better your writing. You will highlight, sticky note and return to this book over and over for amazing advice. Self-Editing for fiction writers is packed with not only advice but ways to see how the concepts work. Everyone that is writing fiction needs to read this book. It is fantastic.! I keep reading books on the craft and I can say this is in the top three. INVALUABLE RESOURCE!
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Reviewed in the United States on March 31, 2012
If you're even considering the thought of editing your own work, whether it's a full length novel, novella, short story, flash or whatever other piece of fiction you have, go out and buy this book now. Read it cover to cover. Take notes. Read it again. Do the exercises. Relate it to your own work. Read it again. And again. And again.
This book highlights what really are some of the most obvious fallacies a writer can make and it does it in the most poignant of ways. Everything they say is in the simplest terms. No bushes are being beaten and they don't cut any writer any slack. Chances are, your manuscript has at least three of the fatal errors outlined in this book. At the very least. More likely, it has nearly all of them. I'm unashamed to say that the latter is me, to one extent or another.

Probably one of the greatest things to come out of this book is the acronym R.U.E., Resist the Urge to Explain. This carries over in multiple chapters, from reiterating explanation in dialogue to redundant points being made and back again. I found that a common theme in many of the editing points they make boils down to over-explaining. Writers want to press the point so badly, and make sure the reader understands exactly what they're saying that that they'll flog the dead horse explaining it. Often the author, usually subconsciously, doesn't trust the reader to get it so important points are reiterated at the expense of the reader's intelligence.

As I write my fanfiction (yes, I write fanfiction) I'm more conscious of writing mistakes that I knew I shouldn't be making but it's something I need to re-reference in the book. For example, using dialogue tags such as "she said as she twirled her hair around her finger" are markedly amateurish. This is actually one of the points in the book I have the hardest time with. I get it but if the action is relevant, I don't see how it can weaken the writing. Here's a little further explanation on this from a comment I made on the original post--

. . . Chapter 11, Sophistication. According to the authors, "Both the 'as' construction and the '-ing construction' as used above are grammatically correct and express the action clearly and unambiguously. But notice that both of these constructions take a bit of action ("She pulled off her gloves") and tuck it away into a dependent clause ("Pulling off her gloves . . ."). This tends to place some of your action at one remove from your reader, to make the actions seem incidental, unimportant. If you use these constructions often, you weaken your writing.
The two examples they gave are, "Pulling off her gloves, she turned to face him" and "As she pulled off her gloves, she turned to face him."

They then go on to say-"We're not suggesting that you avoid these phrases altogether. There are going to be times when you want to write about two actions that are actually simultaneous and/or genuinely incidental-actions that deserve more than a dependent clause. And given the choice between an 'as' or '-ing' construction and a belabored, artificial alternative, you're well advised to use the 'as' or '-ing.' But be aware that hacks have long ago run these useful constructions into the ground. Learn to spot them in your own writing and, if you see more than one or two a page, start hunting around for alternatives."

This is the second to last chapter so most of the points made in this one and the following are more about fine-tuning the work after all the other stuff has been fleshed out. The authors are crazy adamant about eliminating hacks (I can't count how many times they repeat the word) so any style common in hack writing, they've pounced on. So it's not that it's wrong, it's just more of an easy, lazy way out. And I know I'm guilty a hundred times over, at least.

I still have the most trouble with that one and I'm more inclined to think they've just seen that technique used so much in writing that they want to see alternatives. Too much of anything is bad technique but I think this is the only borderline point they made.

I also see flaws in works that I read, ones that I didn't see before, especially in web serials, because of this book. I bite my tongue, of course, because I'm not these people's editor and it's much more than just an improperly punctuated sentence but this book has made me so much more aware of others' flaws as well as my own weaknesses.

For instance, I'm getting better at spotting redundant text in writing but that's still very hard for me. My eyes see someone making a point, not beating me over the head with it. That's another chapter I need to read again (as if I'm not going to read all of them again, right?) because I want to soak in all the information, make sure I'm getting it right and apply it to my own work. I want to recognize the redundancies, not just on a small scale but a much larger one in order to make my book better.
It comes with learning to be a better editor that the ability to look at works more for fun kind of starts to fade. It becomes harder and harder to turn that editor off and just read, especially after reading a book like this. I just have to keep telling myself to shut up and read because I like the story. But I think that's a small price to pay in order to make my work that much better. I can chain the inner editor up when I'm not using her, even though I might be able to hear her screams but I'd rather have that than no inner editor and novels that should never see the light of day.

So if you want to edit, you want to do it well, do it right and make your manuscript as good as it can be, pick up this book. I've even made it super easy for you. You don't even need to leave your seat. Just go to my Amazon widget to the right and click until you find the book and buy it. I promise you, you won't regret it.

Really, there's a reason why every writer I've met, both in person and over the internet, recommends this book to edit their novels. Just remember, these are not hard and fast rules. Keeping to them too strictly will just result in sterile writing and you don't want that. Listen to your own judgment and make the call based on that.
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Reviewed in the United States on April 30, 2024
I found, and am using the advice in this book to be one of the most helpful I have ever read. I cannot imagine ever tossing it aside as I continue to write my stories. Most self-help books tend to smooth over the issues. This one does not. I HIGHLY recommend it for every author; especially an aspiring one.
Reviewed in the United States on December 9, 2022
Most of the advice and suggestions in this book are fantastic. If I absorb even a third of the lessons in it, I’ll be a better writer for it.

There are, however, a few things that made me full-on cringe. I should have done a search for the word “hack” before I posted this review, because I’m pretty sure it’s the most repeated noun in the whole book. Considering the authors’ cautions against repetition, I can only see it as painfully ironic that they didn’t follow their own advice. The first two or three times I saw the word, I didn’t really have an issue with it, but by the 70 percent mark, it was ceasing to look like a real word anymore. Every time I read it, it turned into a mustached bald guy sitting behind a desk yelling “hack, hack, hack!” in a voice that sounded like the short guy who tries to poison Westley in The Princess Bride.

Also, the advice regarding sex scenes is so out of touch with the romance market, that I legitimately feel bad for anyone who tries to use it. They want writers to shy away from descriptions of action because in their opinion, people are just inured to sex any more. It’s so PATENTLY against what actual sales figures show that it’s going to hurt a romance writer’s bottom line to follow their advice.

They want writers to pattern their sex scenes a la Margaret Mitchell. There is a euphemism and fade to black market. Absolutely… but in the greater majority of romance sales, and what the romance community calls “spicy” books, that kind of thing will literally change your genre. And the fact that they quite literally encourage writers to write a la Gone With the Wind even if they are writing books titled “Lust Motel” (in the authors’ words) just tells me they do not understand the genre. At all.

If you actually want to improve sex scene writing, read Diana Gabaldon’s book “I Give You My Body”.

This book has a ton of fantastic information in it. I absolutely recommend it. But… take some of their opinions with a grain of salt. Some of it is their personal taste wrapped up and presented as pure fact.
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Marlena
5.0 out of 5 stars One of the best books for self editing
Reviewed in Canada on October 7, 2023
I've read a lot of books for writers and this is one of the best for self-editing. A note: I would suggest this book for your first, content edits as it really helps with improving and smoothing out the entire story.
Ms. S. Helme
5.0 out of 5 stars Very useful, with some revelations-especially the chapters on Proportion and Sophistication
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on April 19, 2024
The chapter headings say what you’re going to get in this manual: Show and Tell, Characterisation and exposition, Point of view, Proportion, Dialogue mechanics, See how it sounds, Interior monologue, Once is usually enough, and Sophistication.
A lot of it will be stuff you already know—create an ebbing and flowing rhythm between Showing and Telling; write your expositions in your POV character’s voice; Show emotion rather than explaining; use action ‘beat’s in your scenes and dialogue; use dialogue and interior monologue to portray your characters; Tell about setting in action and dialogue; don’t give us all the answers to the questions all at once; go easy on the speaker and thinker attributions; don’t use two characters or two scenes to do the work of one.
I’ve read this stuff many times, but it does not hurt to go over it once again. And each chapter ends with a few useful exercises where Browne and King show how editing looks in practice. (I would have liked even more)
Certain chapters, in particular Proportion and Sophistication, taught me things I did not know.
Proportion deals with identifying the main import of what you are writing. I’m often suggesting, in novels I edit, that authors should have no more than one or two beautiful metaphors or highly descriptive adverbs or adjectives per page. But it’s not a question of quantity, but rather of quality. Don’t go on and on, waxing lyrical with beautiful metaphors, about things which aren’t very important in the grand scheme of things. If plot developments are minor, they may not be worth a scene. If you spend time and energy establishing a state of mind, make sure it makes a difference, a turning point in their life.
Dialogue, mechanics and style are things you must develop as your writing matures. But some tips were a revelation to me. We should limit ‘doing x, she did y’ and ‘as she did x, she did y’ sentence structures, and don’t use adverbs. Instead, reframing them using dynamic verbs in action or dialogue. Instead of ‘you cretin, she said angrily, setting the cup down’, write ‘‘You cretin’. She slammed the cup down.’
Above all, read it out loud. Highlight in yellow passages that make you say, ‘ah, yes’, and those that don’t, edit.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Kindle Houdini Act
Reviewed in India on September 21, 2020
I purchased this book in Kindle format for Rs.279.34 on 06.12.2016. But it had disappeared from my Kindle reader for good, and I could retrieve it with Amazon help. It's a really, really good book.
Reika
5.0 out of 5 stars Brilliant!
Reviewed in Germany on August 21, 2020
This book is brilliant and full of excellent advice.
Knowing what the work of an editor entails has made me a much better writer! Personally, I will still hire someone to edit my book but self-editing it first will make their job easier so that they can focus on the things I might have missed.
If you're a language nerd (like me) and want to self-edit your book you should DEFINITELY read this book first!!
Daniel Loran
5.0 out of 5 stars Must have for students of the craft
Reviewed in the Netherlands on September 28, 2019
This book is incredible, packed with examples before and after the edit. It has exercises and proposed "solutions" at the end of the book. I wish all books on writing were as insightful as this one. The authors explain the craft with crystal clarity, no obscure terms are used, no obfuscation of meaning, just the essence. 100% pure educational value. Love it. Please write more books like this.

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