SwingTalk Golf- SWT v1
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- SwingTalk is the most innovative golf swing analyzer that supports both iOS & Android devices
- Track club & shaft trajectory, shaft angle, actual movement of shaft and more. Compare your swing to pros and to the best record of your own
- Get self-improvement with real-time swing analysis in 3D
- The state-of-the-art technology, sleek design and feather-like weight ? only 0.3 oz
- Don't pause your swing practice! SwingTalk brings you instant voice feedback of tempo & speed ?SwingTalk is the only device with instant voice feedback function
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Don�t pause your swing � SwingTalk brings you instant voice feedback. SwingTalk is unlike any other swing analyzer products. Voice feedback function gives you seamless swing practice experiences. When you swing, it gives you instant tempo & speed feedback with real-time voice alarm so you don�t need to stop and see smartphone display.
With SwingTalk, you can improve your swing by yourself. SwingTalk thoroughly analyzes your swing with comprehensive analysis data. It shows you not only tempo, club speed, club trajectory but also actual movement of the shaft, key point analysis - shaft angles throughout the shaft. Track your swing with SwingTalk and improve everyday. SwingTalk is an all-in-One Device. Choose more convenient and efficient. SwingTalk is fit to all kinds of golf clubs. It analyzes not only your swing but also putting with one device and it support both iOS and Android so you don�t need to purchase additional products.
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Unpacking, pairing and installing the app:
I received the Swingtalk today and got a chance to play around with it at lunch. Cool packaging but it stinks like a really old tool box that's had tools in it that were used and never cleaned, haha.
First you have to charge the unit. They include a USB so I charged for a bit using the side plugin:
After it's all charged up, make sure to read the instructions because if you have the app installed on your device you're trying to pair the Swingtalk to, it won't pair. So be sure to uninstall it before you try to pair the Swingtalk.
The moment you pair it with your device, it autolaunches a pop up that asks if you want to download the app. I did and installed it and we're good to go.
Unfortunately, you have to create an account to the Golfzon stuff, like everything else in this freaking world. I usually like to just log in using facebook because it alleviates me of having to go through the process of creating an account.
I encountered the first negative thing while trying to log in using facebook with the app. It's just continuously spinning and not doing anything and I just realized upon closing and reopening the app that it said it was switching over to 3G, not sure why it does that. Anyway, I tried it again on WIFI and it did the same thing. I tried it one more time and then just ended up creating an account. Who knows, maybe that's the better way to go about doing it.
After you create an account it takes you to a profile page which you can put in your DOB and some other misc information and then we can get it rolling.
The second negative thing about the app, randomly happened when it was analyzing one of my swings, it had a force close. No big deal, opened it up and hit another and it worked like a champ. That's typical with new apps so I'm not worried about it.
You also have the option to check out the options and change the measurement options:
I didn't take a pic of all the options, if you want to see all the options just look below at the "st_swing_data" picture.
Attaching the device
When you stick the unit into the grip of your club, you have to align the blinking light with your club face. The recommend using the line on the top of your grip that is supposed to be inline with your club face but not everyone's club face is going to align with the grip so I just tilt my club over and align it with the face that way.
This way, you can make sure you get an accurate reading of what your face is doing along with your path. Obviously, it's all calculated data so take it with a grain of salt. I didn't hit on a range, but into a net so I can't tell you how accurate the readings are yet but I will be able to do that on Saturday.
I haven't had any movement from the device whatsoever when it's full pushed into my grip but I figure, if later on, it becomes loose, I'm going to get some double sided tape and just push it down on the tape. I'm not sure if that'll have any affect on the accuracy of the readings but I guess we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
I will tell you that I made every effort to ensure my grip does not come even close to touching the device. There's a drawing in the quick start guide that shows where your grip should be and I just followed that.
Now for the fun part...hitting balls.
I got it paired, installed the app put the Swingtalk in place and took some practice swings. It doesn't register unless you actively hit the ball, my guess is because of the vibration from the shaft. Anyway, I went outside at lunch and hit some balls, started out with my PW.
At this point in time, I hit three balls with nothing registering. So I checked all the options to ensure there was nothing I had to do to "start" it and everything was fine. I went back into my device settings and reconnected to Bluetooth and then reopened the app and took another swing and voila! It registered.
After hitting 10 shots with my PW, I checked the stats and it kept all the stats and then I moved over to my Driver and turned on the voice mechanism. The voice is just a shotty windows voice that sounds like Mr. Macintosh's wife (Blank Check reference). No big deal. It tells your swingspeed and shows your path along with what your face angle is. Here's a picture of all the stats it offers from one of my driver swings
After hitting numerous balls, I looked at the data:
The SW2 club, were a few short pitch swings I took with feet together like I was right next to the green. I was glad to see that it read that because you can really work on your tempo. Face angle and all that doesn't matter to me with those.
One thing I did notice is that everytime I got out of the app, and switched my club I had to go back into the settings and manually reconnect to Swingtalk, even though it said connected. Not sure if this is just an iOS thing but it's what I had to do.
Another thing I noticed is that you have to sit in the address for a sec, probably not normally any longer than we normally would but if you just get up and address it for half a milisecond and blast a shot it doesn't have a chance to read the angles and what not so it doesn't analyze. It might show analyzing but then it'll stop and won't finish but just go back to showing you the last swing.
I know some people had mentioned that the swing speed was inaccurate but relative to the readings I've gotten on a GC2 I use at a local indoor range, these are pretty on par with those speeds and they're consistent which was another issue the other person was having. A couple of Drives I duffed them and the swing speed turned out to be 92 but other ones I had were 99, 100, 101, and one 102.
In the options, you can actually change the setting to a different swingspeed for each club if you want a different swing speed.
After you swing you can get a 3D view of DTL & FO along with angles and degrees of your clubs, it's pretty sweet and if you have "Pro Swing" enabled in the options, it tells what the Pro angles would be and it has a dotted line trail showing the arc of the swing as well. It's awesome. Depending on what 3D view you are looking at, you'll see different information. All this information is in the detailed data view as well but it just shows numbers. You can also move the timeline bar to the different dots to show different positions which in turn shows different data.
I like using it. It tells me that I have good or bad tempo. It lets you choose a specific tempo too so if you're a fast swinger and you want to work with that, you can change it. Same thing with a slow swing.
When you get into using this device on your putter, it's a different view and the tempo includes a metronome that you can turn on and off and adjust by 5 BPM from 55BPM up to 80BPM.
It still tells you if your face is closed and what your path is doing. My face was hitting closed with my path going out.
Overall as of my first use of the product
I would give it an 8.5 out of 10. I'm a data driven guy, sometimes it hinders my performance and sometimes it helps. I think for the average user, you need to be somewhat tech inclined and willing to figure stuff out without fear of breaking it. This unit seems to working as advertised and from what I have gathered, accurate. Unfortunately, with regards to the angles accuracy, I can only take a swing video and use Ubersense to analyze the angles but I really don't care that much so I can't tell you how accurate it is. As long as the data is consistent with what it's giving me, I'm happy.
I do wish I knew more about how they calculate all the data it gives me because for $150, we all know it's not truly measured. I want to know how it calculate my AoA and all that jazz.
Anyway, so far so good. I can only hope the product lasts for at least 15 months so I can say, I paid $10 bucks a month but who knows. I'll update this thread as I use it more along with using it on the range.
The one drawback I see to this that aligning the analyzer with the club face is a bit tricky and if your of a little it changes the reading quite a bit. Also if you are not someone who chokes down on the club the analyzer will have a tendency to push out of the handle again changing the readings you get.
If you're a beginner like I am the actual analysis view and statistics can be tricky to understand but with a little practice and review you will get the idea.
The analyzer has helped me correct several of my shots and saved me a few strokes on the course.
I wouldn't be to concerned with the club head speed it says you're supposed to reach as I think that is what the pros are swinging.
So how does it work?
Shaped like a pushpin, the sensor attaches to the butt of your grip (unlike some that attach on the shaft like SwingByte). After downloading the free SwingTalk app and syncing with your mobile device via Bluetooth, the sensor records automatically when you swing and strike the ball or ground. The readings appear on your device within seconds and will tell you your swing speed and swing tempo audibly. Hence the name SwingTalk.
Here are the nuts and bolts...
Design – Bogey
Though the sensor is barely noticeable visually and does little to effect the dynamic and/or swing weight, ultimately the effectiveness of a swing analyzer is equal parts form and function. We’ll talk about function later, but for now, the design of the sensor is good, but not great. One of the biggest complaints with attached swing analyzers is having to constantly readjust them. The SwingTalk, though better than others I have tested, does need adjusting on roughly 1 out of 3 iron shots. Sometimes the sensor would slip down a little or it would twist. In order to read correctly, the sensor needs to be flush with the end of the grip and aligned with the club face. I have to admit that I may have had some issues because of the type of grips I use… Golf Pride Tour Wrap 2G, which has a rather thin butt that protrudes out. A thicker, flatter grip like Winn would likely hold up better to the jarring. I will have to say that when I used it on my driver, the sensor had no issues moving.
Performance – Birdie
Despite its design flaw, the SwingTalk performs extremely well. If you take a practice swing, the sensor doesn’t record unless you actually hit something. The data gathered is rather extensive as well. Each swing computes numbers you’d see on a Trackman from Club Path, Attack Angle, Swing Speed, Face to Path, Swing Plane to name a few. Numbers are only good if they’re accurate and maybe 1 out of 10 did I feel a swing didn’t quite match the data. Using another swing radar, I was able to calculate the SwingTalk was typically off 2-3 mph, but no more than 5 mph. The app also gives a 3D rendition of each swing from all kinds of angles like overhead, down the line, face on, etc. If that’s not enough for you, you can compare your numbers and swing to a professional’s. You can also use this on your putting. It's one thing to see how your ball is rolling, it's another to have your putt analyzed from the swing path, length, face angle, and tempo. So if you’re a numbers guy or a visual one, you have the best of both worlds.
Value – Par
Retail price for the SwingTalk is around $149, which is right in the range of other swing analyzers. The SwingTalk is an item I could see myself using for a long time. Having a perfect swing may never be attainable for us amateurs, but having a consistent one using this device is made easier. If you’re in the market for a swing analyzer, you won’t be disappointed with the SwingTalk.
Feel free to ask me any other questions about the SwingTalk.
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