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Ted Bundy: Conversations with a Killer: The Death Row Interviews (Volume 1) Paperback – July 2, 2019
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What goes on in the mind of a serial killer? Drawn from more than 150 hours of exclusive tape-recorded interviews with the handsome, charismastic Bundy, whose grisly killing spree left at least 30 young women dead across seven states between 1974 and 1978, this chilling exposé provides a shocking self-portrait of one of the most savage sex murderers in history. Speaking eerily in the third person, Bundy reveals appalling details about his crimes, discloses how he attracted his victims, explains how he methodically disguised his acts, and recounts his two daring jailbreaks. Bundy also offers his thoughts on other infamous serial killers, including John Wayne Gacy and Son of Sam.
- Print length336 pages
- LanguageEnglish
- PublisherUnion Square & Co.
- Publication dateJuly 2, 2019
- Dimensions5.5 x 0.75 x 8.25 inches
- ISBN-101454937688
- ISBN-13978-1454937685
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Hugh Aynesworth is a veteran journalist who witnessed the assassinations of both JFK and Lee Harvey Oswald. He was nominated for a Pulitzer Prize in investigative reporting for his work reporting on another mass murderer, Henry Lee Lucas. He has coauthored seven books with Michaud.
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- Publisher : Union Square & Co. (July 2, 2019)
- Language : English
- Paperback : 336 pages
- ISBN-10 : 1454937688
- ISBN-13 : 978-1454937685
- Item Weight : 14.4 ounces
- Dimensions : 5.5 x 0.75 x 8.25 inches
- Best Sellers Rank: #354,215 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
- #830 in Serial Killers True Accounts
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Stephen G. Michaud is an internationally recognized author, co-author, reporter, and editor whose decades-long career credits comprise twenty books and multiple contributions to periodicals including Newsweek, Businessweek, The New York Times, Maxim, Reader’s Digest, Salon, Boys’ Life, and Playboy.
Michaud’s published works—in an impressive variety of genres ranging from World War II, the Cuban revolution, true crime, and mountain-climbing to Texas history and serial murder—have sold over two million copies and been translated into fifteen languages.
The New York Daily News named The Only Living Witness (a biography of serial killer Ted Bundy co-authored with Hugh Aynesworth) one of the ten best true-crime books ever written. Ted Bundy: Conversations with a Killer, a compilation of Michaud and Aynesworth’s death-row interviews with Bundy, was a New York Times bestseller, and in January 2019, Netflix premiered it (with a multi-story advertisement in New York’s Times Square) as a four-part series of the same name.
His titles include If You Love Me, You Will Do My Will, the story of Texas heiress Sarita Kenedy East, written with Hugh Aynesworth, and two volumes on aberrant criminal behavior written with Robert Hazelwood, the celebrated FBI profiler who helped found the Bureau’s Behavioral Science Unit.
He lives in Maryland and is a member of the Texas Institute of Letters.
ABOUT HIS LIFE AND THE TED BUNDY CLASSICS
Stephen G. Michaud's very first reporting assignment was a 1971 interview with Rudolph Wanderone, the legendary pool shark better known as Minnesota Fats.
The story was not a success.
"Fats was neither fat nor very interesting," Michaud recalls. "I could not pry a worthwhile sentence out of him. As interview subjects go, he made a good pool player."
Michaud has since confronted significantly tougher subjects -- among them the infamous sexual sadist Mike DeBardeleben -- and under far more stressful circumstances -- he spent a hundred hours interviewing serial killer Ted Bundy on Death Row. Yet though Michaud's best known for his detailed explorations of the criminal mind, he never expected his career path to lead in that direction.
A Vermont native, raised in the Pacific Northwest, he graduated with a bachelor's degree in history from Stanford in 1970, assuming at the time he would go on to law school. Instead, Michaud migrated from Palo Alto to New York City, where he took what he believed was a temporary job as a research assistant in the Newsweek magazine library.
Three years later, while on assignment to the magazine's Houston bureau, he reported his first major crime story, the so-called "Candy Man" serial murders of 30 young men and boys.
From then until he left Newsweek Michaud covered everything from the U.S. space program to underwater archeology, including a number of strange and sensational crime stories. Among them: The August, 1975, kidnap in New York City of Seagram's heir, Samuel Bronfman II and, later that year, the brutal stabbing murder in Philadelphia of Jack Knight, the 30-year-old heir to the Knight-Ridder newspaper fortune.
In 1977, Michaud joined Business Week, also in New York City, as Research Editor, in charge of the magazine's science and technology coverage. He produced a series of cover stories for the magazine on topics various as industrial innovation, solar energy and weather forecasting, and was about to make another major career move -- to Tokyo, for McGraw-Hill World News -- when Ted Bundy fell into his lap, figuratively.
"I received a call from my agent," he remembers, "who told me that Bundy was interested in cooperating on a book. Ted, who lawmen suspected in as many as 150 murders from Seattle to Miami, adamantly insisted he was innocent on all counts, which seemed a dubious proposition. Nevertheless, I was intrigued at the possibility he could be telling the truth, and that a thorough re-investigation of his case might prove that.
"Without giving the project much more thought, I canceled Japan and quit Business Week. I also induced my onetime mentor at Newsweek, Hugh Aynesworth, to join me in the project. I would interview Bundy on Death Row while Hugh, one of the very best investigative reporters around, would undertake a complete review of the evidence against Bundy."
Michaud and Aynesworth quickly came to two realizations: Bundy was guilty as hell and he had no intention of admitting it, at least not openly. However, they did see a possible way to finesse the situation.
Although Bundy was not ready to say, "I did it," he clearly wanted to discuss himself and what he'd done. So Michaud offered him a way to do that, to "speculate" about the murders, and the person who committed them, in the third-person.
"Ted jumped at the suggestion," Michaud recalls. "It wasn't long before we were deep into his macabre world, exploring regions of the criminal psyche I hadn't guessed existed."
The Only Living Witness, Michaud and Aynesworth's portrait of the killer, was published in 1983 to widespread critical praise. The New York Daily News called it one of the ten best true-crime books ever written. Criminology professors made it required reading.
Gratifying as the response was, reporting and writing The Only Living Witness was a grueling four-year experience, a daily diet of death and deranged desire. Michaud wanted a respite from such projects, so he turned his attention writing freelance pieces for The New York Times Magazine and other periodicals, as well as ghost writing.
His first ghosting effort was Witness to War, a memoir of Dr. Charles Clements' year spent treating civilian victims of El Salvador's brutal civil war. His second book, entitled Insider, was an account of life among Cuba's revolutionary elite as recalled by Jose-Luis Llovio-Menendez, a former high official in Fidel Castro's communist government.
Michaud and Aynesworth later wrote two book-length collections of true-crime stories, Wanted for Murder and Murderers Among Us, before embarking on their second major project together, "If You Love Me You Will Do My Will."
The story of a fabulously wealthy, and devout, South Texas widow and the charismatic Trappist monk who for a time captured her heart, and her money, "If You Love Me You Will Do My Will" was called "a masterful job," in Barron's; "Intricate, well-written," in Legal Times ; and "a fascinating tale of chicanery," by the Dallas Observer.
In 1989, Michaud became an editorial consultant to the famed Media Lab at MIT. That same year, Ted Bundy was executed and Michaud and Aynesworth published an edited transcript of their interviews with Ted, called Conversations With A Killer. The book was a New York Times ubest-seller.
In 1994, Michaud published Lethal Shadow, an account of uber criminal Mike DeBardeleben's extraordinary life of crime, from counterfeiting to rape and murder, including flam-flam jobs, kidnappings and bank heists.
There ensued two collaborations with profiler Roy Hazelwood, a former member of the FBI's "Hannibal Lecter Squad": The Evil That Men Do, published in 1999, and Dark Dreams, issued in the summer of 2001. Kirkus Reviews called Evil, "a gritty, gut-wrenching trip into the world of sexual crimes ... not recommended for reading at bedtime, or when one is at home alone in the house."
Dark Dreams was an Edgar Award finalist.
The Vengeful Heart, a collection of shorter pieces Michaud wrote with Aynesworth, also was issued in 2001.
Taking a break from the crime beat, Michaud helped Dr. Beck Weathers write Left For Dead (2000), the Dallas pathologist's stirring memoir of his battles with depression, a decades-long struggle that culminated near the top of Mt. Everest in early May of 1996 in a calamitous blizzard that killed eight climbers.
Straying even further from crime and criminals, Michaud in 2000 published his first children's book, The Miracle of Island Girl, the first in a projected series of true-life animal tales for children, aged 4 to 8. Volume two, Percy the Pelican Finds a Home, will be the second volume in the series.
In 2003, he teamed again with Hugh Aynesworth to write Breaking the News: A Reporter's Eyewitness Account of the Kennedy Assassination and its Aftermath.
Next came Patriarch with Frank Yturria, then The Devil's Right Hand Man with Debbie M. Price. During the same period Michaud worked as an editorial consultant to One Laptop per Child (OLPC) which aspires to put a rugged kid-sized connected laptop in the hands of every poor child on earth.
In the mid 1980s he was inducted into the Texas Institute of Letters.
He currently is at work on several assignments.
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Authors thought of him. Sociopath, psychopath, sexual deviant and murderer. Manipulative liar. Using his life as a diversion from getting caught. Ho-hum. The real people close to the case on film talking about what that experience was like is there ( on Netflix, not in the book) as well and that’s very interesting.
A better book would have been transcripts of all the tapes. Or better yet - the tapes themselves. I gave the book 5 stars because you do get an opportunity to hear him talk about himself hidden as a 3rd person narrator - an idea the interviewer came up with that let his subject say something about what he may have done and how he thought about it in fantasy and reality. It was compelling to hear Bundy speak about the transition of fantasy alone to fantasy superimposed on reality. He is very articulate in his ability to describe nuanced mental events. At these moments the description has an unintended effect of him losing a grasp on the reality of the women he abducted as alive. His quick use of blunt force and ligature looks less like his intent was to inflict pain and more like his intent was to quickly produce a carefully selected dead female. This looks like what he was admitting.in those last hours before he died and what he found most personally shameful and most horrifying to his listeners.
Another reason I liked it and might read it again is that I can read “Disposable Futures: the Seduction of Violence in the Age of Spectacle” (by Evans and Giroux), “Seventeen Contradictions and the End of Capitalism” (by David Harvey) [also available from Amazon] and this book about Ted Bundy, and I can go from one book to another, jump back and forth between all three, and it’s like reading one continuous stream of consciousness, like reading one book without interruption!
Neoliberalism, predatory capitalism and a psychopathic killer: it’s all the same story, just different names – maybe a different emphasis here or there, but there’s similar motives, means and opportunities to commit crimes and avoid detection. It doesn’t matter if it’s Wall Street bankers, secret global trade deals or raping and murdering young girls: the only thing missing are the alibis, and Bundy never had any either.
What's unique and engrossing is you get the killer's actual words, unfiltered--amazing.
Without actually confessing, he tells us how he escalated from reading pornography based on violence against women, to being a chronic peeping tom, to finally acting out on his rape fantasies.
He murdered the first rape victim (and 30+ more) because he said he was afraid of getting caught, but by reading through the lines it's obvious violence was his primary target from the very beginning.
He admitted there was a type of woman he hunted--young and attractive, walking alone.
There is also discussion of his girlfriend-turned wife, Carole, who, unbelievably, believed in his innocence.
Quite an interesting read.
For anyone interested in a well written, interesting account of Ted Bundy, his crimes, trials and the sick psychopathic workings of his mind, I would also like to recommend a more recent publication called: "The Bundy Murders a Comprehensive History" by Kevin M. Sullivan, also available here at Amazon. Argueably the most complete account ever written on the subject, the book is well-written, the subject matter is treated with great sensitivity, and its "readability" is undoubtedly a 10. Read them both!
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I remember years later working in a home with young adults with Asperger's Syndrome. One young boy in particular had a thing for gory horror movies and would watch them as soon as he got up and pretty much until he went to bed. I must admit this freaked me out, and in an attempt to dissuade him from this abnormal activity I showed him various videos on YouTube ranging from Bundy's last interview to news coverage of the Columbine High School Massacre of '99. It had a positive effect on him too, but my manager didn't agree and told me that he couldn't differentiate between fantasy and reality. When I commented that the real danger is letting him watch depraved horror movies (where he frequently punched the air and exclaimed "yeah!" when the bad guy would rip one of his victims open or some other on-screen atrocity) he paused and said "You've got a point". Anyway,
Anyway, I got the impression that he was sincere at the time, and so did Dobson when interviewing him. But from further reading and watching, it would appear that Bundy was always trying to play people, to gain an advantage (in this case an extension of life on his death sentence).
To be honest this is the first book on Bundy I have read, and perhaps I should have read Michaud's first book "The Only Living Witness" for a more general understanding of his case.
Having been addicted in the past to various things, I could certainly pick up on some of Bundy's psychology, but I just don't feel I could get into it the way someone with more awareness of the case maybe could. Bundy was a clever person. He knew the law and he knew a fair bit of psychology. He was totally addicted to his perversion. There are a lot of people like Bundy who perhaps never gain the courage to act out their sick fantasies or they are addicted to something less destructive or less extreme. I could certainly pick up on what he was saying in regards to the addictive nature of his crimes of passion.
Bundy was adamant in wanting the world to know he was smart, totally sane and was not a perverted sicko on the extremes of society, but a certain product of society of which there were more. The impression one is left with is that Bundy spent long hours meditating on why exactly he had ended up like this; the causes and effects.
I have "The Only Living Witness" which I will read next. And I would probably suggest you read that first.
I purchased the book expecting Ted Bundy to explain what he was thinking and feeling and why he done the crimes, but what I found was something completely different. Ted refuses to talk about what he done or admit to it, but instead the researchers ask him to explain what he thinks was going through the mind of the person that he thinks committed the crime...However, as this sounds like a great trick, Ted does not always tell the truth. It is interesting why he says the crimes were committed, how and what was going through the "killers'" mind, but what he says has to be taken with caution as he is a manipulator and does not always tell the truth as anyone who knows the crimes will know - some lies the researchers will even point out.
Personally, I find books about him more interesting than this book. Don't expect too much. I wouldn't say it is an easy read as he does get quite technical as he has studied psychology himself and whether he is actually telling what he is thinking or showing off his academic knowledge is another question to ask.
I agree with one review that says the book leaves you with more questions than answers. I put the book down without learning much









