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The Incrementalists

The Incrementalists

bySteven Brust
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hola
4.0 out of 5 starsA wild ride on a ferris wheel
Reviewed in the United States on October 1, 2013
Like most who read him, I truly enjoy Brust: he's inventive, funny, and somewhat nuts, and this book fits all of his qualities. I'm unfamiliar with Skyler White's work, but the collaboration is successful in that the story is told in the first person, with two narrators, one male and one female and the voices are interesting. To begin, the incrementalists are a secret society of about 200 immortal entities who, by making small changes via 'meddling' with regular people, have tried to improve the world since the beginning of homo sapiens (at least that's implied). Sometimes what they do works and sometimes it doesn't - but this book doesn't really delve into that aspect, other than in a minor, tangential manner (examples are mentioned of the results of their work). The premise is that, although their bodies aren't immortal, their essences (or souls) are, and when the body is done - via whatever means - a replacement is selected, and the replacement is imbued with the memories of the one they replace. (I won't go into the terminology the authors use, but let's just say I've simplified the process in this explanation.) This is the story of a replacement gone wonky, and the manner in which eight of the society attempt to understand and fix the problem. The characters are interesting and their unique abilities are explored, but the plot is somewhat disjointed, and this reader, at least, was discombobulated at times. I read it in one sitting, and parts of it are marvelous, parts are confusing, and parts are just crazy. I was reminded in some ways of early PKD, and his explorations of altered states. I have to re-read this thing, because I believe it's one of those books that get clearer the more times one indulges. At least I hope so.
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Chris
3.0 out of 5 starsI really wanted to like this story
Reviewed in the United States on November 4, 2014
I've enjoyed all of Stephen Brust's previous work, so I was prepared to have a good time with this story but I really felt like I was sold a bill of goods by the book's description. The story is billed as being about "a secret society of two hundred people with an unbroken lineage reaching back forty thousand years... with a very modest mission: to make the world better, just a little bit at a time."

So I go into the story expecting to read about immortals who tinker with society trying to right the world's ills and argue about what's right and how to avoid making mistakes and seeing the outcomes of their work... but this story only very, very tangentially deals with those items at all. Mostly it's just about how a new Incrementalist is added to the club and the various politics and intrigues that result. Take out all the magic and the story could just be about any secret society (Illuminati, Skull and Bones, Freemasons, take your pick) and the story would become a mainstream murder/mystery.

It was interesting enough and though the constant switching between points of view got awkward at times there were interesting bits and I kept expecting that once this introductory stuff about the new member got done we'd get to the real story... but it didn't, the book just ended and I was disappointed that I didn't read the story that I felt the ad copy had promised.
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hola
4.0 out of 5 stars A wild ride on a ferris wheel
Reviewed in the United States on October 1, 2013
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Like most who read him, I truly enjoy Brust: he's inventive, funny, and somewhat nuts, and this book fits all of his qualities. I'm unfamiliar with Skyler White's work, but the collaboration is successful in that the story is told in the first person, with two narrators, one male and one female and the voices are interesting. To begin, the incrementalists are a secret society of about 200 immortal entities who, by making small changes via 'meddling' with regular people, have tried to improve the world since the beginning of homo sapiens (at least that's implied). Sometimes what they do works and sometimes it doesn't - but this book doesn't really delve into that aspect, other than in a minor, tangential manner (examples are mentioned of the results of their work). The premise is that, although their bodies aren't immortal, their essences (or souls) are, and when the body is done - via whatever means - a replacement is selected, and the replacement is imbued with the memories of the one they replace. (I won't go into the terminology the authors use, but let's just say I've simplified the process in this explanation.) This is the story of a replacement gone wonky, and the manner in which eight of the society attempt to understand and fix the problem. The characters are interesting and their unique abilities are explored, but the plot is somewhat disjointed, and this reader, at least, was discombobulated at times. I read it in one sitting, and parts of it are marvelous, parts are confusing, and parts are just crazy. I was reminded in some ways of early PKD, and his explorations of altered states. I have to re-read this thing, because I believe it's one of those books that get clearer the more times one indulges. At least I hope so.
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K. Bloom
5.0 out of 5 stars Major Change of Pace for Steven Brust
Reviewed in the United States on October 29, 2013
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The Incrementalists is a story about a small group of people who attempt to alter the future to make it better, by tiny steps. Like promoting the invention of the MP3 format, for example. Sometimes they screw up and governments massacre people, but by and large they stick to small things. The changes they make are based on their knowledge of human "switches", which they've gained by living for a very,very long time. They do this by preserving their memories and grafting them into new recruits as their bodies die. Sometimes the new personality takes over, and sometimes the old one comes out looking through the windshield, as it were. The process of changes, both by "meddling" and the soul transfer, make the novel stand out for me.

This book returns to Brust's style of twenty years ago, in Agyar. Which if you haven't yet read, you should just buy right now since you're reading this review. It reminds me of Tim Powers and Roger Zelazny, and that's part of why I like it so much. The Vlad Taltos world has been great for all of us Brust fans, but it must be somewhat limiting for the author as the characters impose their own restraints on the story. We're just lucky that Brust doesn't seem to hate his characters like Douglas Adams came to during the Hitchhiker's saga!

Skyler White is the co-author of the book, and I don't know much about her writing yet but hope to soon. The Incrementalists is written from the viewpoint of two of the characters, which are identified so you know who's "talking" and how their view of things differs from the rest. Bottom line, you gotta get this book if you're into Steven Brust!
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Chris
3.0 out of 5 stars I really wanted to like this story
Reviewed in the United States on November 4, 2014
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I've enjoyed all of Stephen Brust's previous work, so I was prepared to have a good time with this story but I really felt like I was sold a bill of goods by the book's description. The story is billed as being about "a secret society of two hundred people with an unbroken lineage reaching back forty thousand years... with a very modest mission: to make the world better, just a little bit at a time."

So I go into the story expecting to read about immortals who tinker with society trying to right the world's ills and argue about what's right and how to avoid making mistakes and seeing the outcomes of their work... but this story only very, very tangentially deals with those items at all. Mostly it's just about how a new Incrementalist is added to the club and the various politics and intrigues that result. Take out all the magic and the story could just be about any secret society (Illuminati, Skull and Bones, Freemasons, take your pick) and the story would become a mainstream murder/mystery.

It was interesting enough and though the constant switching between points of view got awkward at times there were interesting bits and I kept expecting that once this introductory stuff about the new member got done we'd get to the real story... but it didn't, the book just ended and I was disappointed that I didn't read the story that I felt the ad copy had promised.
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Arref Mak
4.0 out of 5 stars Moving through memory and mystery, a small change at a time
Reviewed in the United States on September 26, 2013
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Well I enjoyed this. It was fun, fast, and intriguing. Glad to see such a collaboration.

I have read Brust many times before, and found this version of him a faster story with wonderful hints of deeper things stirred.
I have not read White before, but will be looking around to see what else she has written.

Things to like:
* dense jargon about poker and gambling. A learning experience. Totally opaque to me, which can push you out of a story, but it also stirs the curiosity and does get some exposition further into the story. No different than science concepts I'm not qualified to understand.
* shifting story perspective between the man and the woman who are zig zagging the story to resolution. I liked this a lot.
* strong secondary characters, all of them smart and interesting.
* good visuals for describing the territory of virtual landscapes.
* update to story concepts that have been tried before, a band of immortals hidden in plain sight.
* very nice 'magic' system that is magical science without creating "power X" unseen
* romance and passion based on exploration of identity
* broken trust based on human values crossed with immortal agenda
* immortals who are JUST LIKE US

highly recommended
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Nathaniel T. Whitestone
5.0 out of 5 stars Steven Brust offers an exquisite and gripping play on the nature of memory and symbol
Reviewed in the United States on January 17, 2014
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I have enjoyed Brust's work since I read Jhereg at age 11. I discounted some of his recent pieces as being less inventive than his earlier work. In The Incrementalists, I feel Brust has exceeded every previous work. The Incrementalists works as a novel, and it has the smooth currents an accomplished action writer can easily employ to draw the reader onward. Where it astonishes me however is in the exploration of memory and symbol. Since his early books Brust has played with the power of tropes as causal elements; as in the work of Neil Gaiman, Brust's gods are often part allegory, part embodied feeling being. While I don't want to shortcut the voyage of discovery that lies in wait for readers of The Incrementalists, I will say that by the end I was actively engaged with the question -- do our metaphors have reality in a manner similar to electromagnetic force? Not as a physical substance (the old ether theory of electromagnetism incorrectly reduced light to kinetics) but as a pattern of relationships that predictably obey knowable laws? Does the play of form that is culture have persistence - even some sort of being? In some sense the answer is obviously yes. But how far can we take this? The interplay of memetics and complexity theory has begun to map this terrain. Under Brust's guidance, I felt as though I were flying over it, seeing new outlines as though in a dream. Have I said it already? I loved this book.
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Bruce Standlee
4.0 out of 5 stars Enchanting and engaging - Brust Still Has IT!
Reviewed in the United States on March 16, 2014
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As a long-time Steven Brust fan, especially the Vlad Taltos novels, I was still a little trepidatious about starting this one. The blurb didn't fill me with confidence. Before buying it, i bought the short story "Fire Works in the Rain" set in the "Incrementalist" universe and with the same main character Phil. That did it!

Even after that preparation, I was still blown away by the concept, story, & character development. Despite the lack of any real action, this novel moves along, lagging only in a couple of scenes. I found the characters engaging and believable.

WARNING: Drageria fans (Vlad novels & Kharravan Romances, + Broken Down Palace) - THIS IS NOT AN ACTION NOVEL. The authorial voice is very like that of "Cowbow Feng's ..." mixed with "The Sun, the Moon, & the Stars". I will be very pleased if we get another novel out of this universe.
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Trumplethinskin
2.0 out of 5 stars Perhaps deceptively marketed
Reviewed in the United States on October 20, 2013
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I went into The Incrementalists expecting a story about people who have "meddled" in important events throughout human history to achieve more favorable outcomes. While the novel mentions that its characters do such things, the focus of the plot is actually on an internal struggle amongst several of the group's leaders. It was like thinking you're getting Harry Potter but instead reading a story about an intrigue in the Hogwarts board of governors, who occasionally mention that some of the students are having grand adventures battling evil.

Ren is the ostensible reader's point of entry into the world of the Incrementalists, but the rest of the characters seem perfectly OK with leaving her, and thus, the reader, confused about many aspects of it. Speaking of the other characters, they are supposed to be hundreds or thousands of years old but are remarkably shallow thumbnail sketches -- this one knows about food. This one is slightly more intense than the others. That one plays poker and is preoccupied with romantic entanglements.

If you're going to give this book a try, I think you at least deserve to know what you're really getting into. The characters do very cool things -- we're told. What we actually see them doing, however, is stumbling through a rather haphazardly conceived, pedestrian mystery that has nothing to do with subtle manipulation of historic events.
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David A. Wohlreich
5.0 out of 5 stars Memory, Humanity, Wit, and Warmth
Reviewed in the United States on September 30, 2013
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THE INCREMENTALISTS is not an easy book to talk about. From the blurb, you get pretty much everything you need going in: secret society, two main characters, subtle magic, modern day.

What you don't get is the beauty. The way the early confusion unfolds like a night-blooming desert flower, revealing not just cleverness but compassion for the reader. You don't get the laugh-out-loud jokes and the quiet harmonies. You don't see two masterful writers using all of their art to create a work of tremendous humanity.

Brust's admiration of the work of Roger Zelazny is well known. As I read THE INCREMENTALISTS for the first time, I realized that this is his & White's CHRONICLES OF AMBER. A reader familiar with Zelazny's masterwork will recognize dynamics, thematic elements, and structural decisions. It's not an overt relationship, and will not hinder anyone who's not read the earlier work. It does provide a beautiful counterpoint nonetheless.

THE INCREMENTALISTS is not an action-packed thrill-ride through bizarre worlds. It doesn't boast a high body count or world-shaking threats. It is a quiet, deeply-thought exploration of memory, identity, and love.

It's not a book that will please everyone. It is a book that profoundly pleased, and moved, me.

An aside: the audiobook, read by Ray Porter and Mary Robinette Kowal, is one of the finest I've ever heard. If you have the opportunity to listen to it, do.
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Peter
5.0 out of 5 stars Enjoyed
Reviewed in the United States on October 6, 2014
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I throughly enjoyed this novel. I am happy when a book can surprise me, and this one did. Many who are disappointed in it point to the idea that this book's premise was about incrementalists, but merely used that as a backdrop for a more personal story. I think of this as a good thing, as I also enjoyed that the ideas explored ranged far beyond just the mechanics of the incrementalists.

To quote from Cory Doctrow's review: "On one level, this is a zippy, noirish story about a fractious criminal conspiracy in modern-day Las Vegas. There are murders and attempted murders, chase scenes, loud arguments and sneaky scheming. But on another level, it's a book about what duty the human race owes to itself, and what human beings owe to one another, a profound philosophical book about the theory of history, the practice of user-experience design, networked politics, and the role of ritual and convention in binding us together"
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Thomas Edmund
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2.0 out of 5 stars Too Explainy
Reviewed in the United States on September 28, 2013
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The Incrementalists is in my opinion a lazy book. Two authors have clearly come up with a brilliant concept - immortal beings who 'meddlework' with us humans, ostensibly for the better, and preserve their lengthy lives by storing their memories jointly in a celestial garden and occasionally trading their psyches into a new body.

The laziness is apparent in the book lacking anything other than a great concept. The characters have little personality (despite the constant discussions about personalty modification.) Even though the majority the characters are beings that have experienced eternity, there is a noticeable lack of epic in the story. The entire piece happens in Vegas, which may be some form of symbolism, there are several references to dramatic meddlework but little real consequence and certainly no big world changing actions within the story.

Finally it felt like there were no stakes in the story. What was I the reader supposed to be rooting for? Worrying about? The final conclusion of a diluted love story and existential development, was not saved by the overly vivid sex scenes, which were awkward as all get out compared to the shallow flighty tone of the rest of the novel.
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