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There Will Be Dragons (Council Wars) Mass Market Paperback – November 1, 2004

4.2 out of 5 stars 180 customer reviews
Book 1 of 4 in the Council Wars Series

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"Military SF with a difference . . . and as much action as you could hope for. . . . And then there's that quirky sense of humor running like a vein of gold under the mayhem."

"Explosive. . . . Fans of strong military SF will appreciate Ringo's lively narrative and flavorful characters. . . . One of the best new practitioners of military SF."

." . . since [Ringo's] imagination, clearly influenced by Kipling and rock and roll, is fertile, and his storytelling skill sound, [When the Devil Dances] is irresistible."

"[Ringo demonstrates a] flair for fast-paced military sf peopled with three-dimensional characters and spiced with personal drama as well as tactical finesse."

"If Tom Clancy were writing SF, it would read much like John Ringo . . . good reading with solid characterizations--a rare combination."

"Ringo provides a textbook example of how a novel in the military SF subgenre should be written. . . . For those who have read everything David Drake has written or who may have wished that Tom Clancy, Larry Bond or Harold Coyle would write SF, Ringo provides what's needed. . . . Crackerjack storytelling." --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.

About the Author

John Ringo is author of the New York Times best-selling Legacy of Aldenata (Posleen War) series, which so far includes A Hymn Before Battle and nine sequels, the technothriller series starting with Ghost, a dark fantasy titled Princess of Wands, and many other novels for Baen. A veteran of the 82nd Airborne, Ringo brings first-hand knowledge of military operations to his fiction.
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Product Details

  • Series: Council Wars
  • Mass Market Paperback: 752 pages
  • Publisher: Baen; Reprint edition (November 1, 2004)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0743488598
  • ISBN-13: 978-0743488594
  • Product Dimensions: 4.2 x 1.2 x 6.8 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 12 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.2 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (180 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #546,409 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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Format: Hardcover
Humanity lives in a veritable Garden of Eden with disease and death conquered. Mankind lives almost like Gods in a Utopian Olympus controlled by the computer "Mother", who monitors and calculates probable outcomes. Mother realizes that there is a 99.9999915% chance that the humans will go to war as the council, who oversees her, is squabbling and there is a 17.347% probability they will wipe out the species. However, Mother is not programmed to warn humanity or any other intelligent speices (machine or animal).
The war causes massive destruction with no corner of the globe immune. In isolated Raven's Mill, smith and self proclaimed historian Edmund Talbot sees refugees seeking asylum while warlords assault anyone. Elves visit him to help save mankind, but it may be too late. Enemies from Edmund's past and new foes realize that to conquer, they must eliminate Edmund first. He is the key for the 82.653% survival of the species; that is if he is not distracted by the fact that his daughter is out there as a perfect pawn to destroy him. Mother knows that without Edmund the survival odds are reversed.
THERE WILL BE DRAGONS is an exciting blending of future science fiction with some fantasy elements into a delightful action-packed tale. The story line never slows down from the moment Mother computes the odds in a mundane ho hum manner. The cast seems genuine whether they are "perfect" human, elf, other mythological creature, or man working the land. Still it is John Ringo's world that makes Paradise obtained and Paradise Lost seem credible that makes this fab tale so much fun. Fans will anxiously await sequels to ascertain whether humanity finds Paradise Regained.
Harriet Klausner
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Format: Hardcover
My idea of Television is reading multiple books at the same time. Its just like being a regular viewer of television. You read a few chapters, put that book down and pick up the next.
I was planning to do this yesterday. I had the whole day to myself and looked forward to the books I was enjoying. Until I picked up There Will Be Dragons.
I couldn't put it down. Of course I finished it yesterday and now I'm upset because I can't have more.
By the way; that only happened one other time this year. The name of that book was "A hymn before battle."
John Ringo is one hell of an author.
The cover of There Will Be Dragons would make one believe that it was a fantasy story. That is not the case. It is purely Sci-Fi in its finest form. The story is set in the 40th century(?) where people have advanced to the point in which they can change their form to be anything from the most beautiful human imaginable to a unicorn.
The book begins with society being nearly euphoric. Then because of political infighting, control of the energy which sustains that euphoria is subverted and all of society reverts to a preindustrialized level.
The plot builds quickly and the momentum never stops. I dare you to pick this book up. You can't put it down.
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Format: Hardcover
THERE WILL BE DRAGONS is the first episode in a new series by John Ringo. To be honest I really didn't want to like this book. I am so angry with Ringo for what he has done, or better yet not done, to the MARCH and the Posleen series, that is take a wonderful story and drive it straight to hell!
As much as I wanted to trash it I can't. It is a truly good story with exciting, vibrant characters, great storyline (not very original, see EARTH ABIDES, THE STAND, ALAS BABYLON, etc.) but when your dealing with a high tech civilization being reduced to pre-industrial revolution levels it's a darn good one. Although the basic storyline isn't original the way he gets there is.
Do I RECOMMENDED it? Yes, it's too well written not to. I enjoyed it, but I'm still afraid that about two books into the series good ol' Mr. Ringo is going to get bored again and leave us hanging with either no follow-up, or even worst a pathetic thrown together ending like that crud in HELL'S FAIRE. But, where there's life there's hope...
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Format: Hardcover
It's not often I read a book where the author mixes low-tech fantasy with high-tech science fiction and makes it interesting. But John Ringo does a darn good job of it in this book. He takes a future Utopia, where all the work anyone has to do is say "Genie, another beer", and asks the age old question, "What is the worst thing I can do to these characters short of killing them?"
The result is a high-tech war between feuding Council members using Clarkian level technology (indistinquishable from magic), while the rest of the world is suddenly denied the energy net that provides just about everything in their lives, and has to fight a low-tech war with nothing more advanced than cold steel, just to survive.
I highly recommend this book to any fans of sword-and-sorcery fantasy, as well as anyone else who likes Baen's style of books.
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Format: Hardcover
There Will Be Dragons (2003) is the first SF novel in The Council Wars series. The Earth has been at peace for a thousand years since the AI Wars and the population is down to a billion people and shrinking. The ecological recovery project is ongoing under the supervision of Mother, the distributed operating system of the Net. The energy demands for ordinary usage are down, only requiring fourteen of the terawatt generators, although a surplus is being stored for future use in the Wolf 359 terraforming project.

The population has engaged in all sorts of manipulations of body form, including body sculpting, genetic modification, Change via teleportation, or Transfer to a nanite cloud. Such manipulations have also been applied to plants and animals. One such genetic mod created the Elves long ago.

In this novel, the only remaining governmental body, the Terrestrial Council for Information Strategy and Management, is called into special session by Paul Bowman, who proposes rationing of energy to force humanity to have to work (on what is unclear). Work is, in itself, liberating and should lead to an increase in population, thereby saving humanity from decline and extinction. A majority of those present rejects his agenda.

Sheida Ghorbani recognizes the fascist nature of Bowman's approach and suspects something underhanded is likely to happen to the Council members who oppose him. She solicits advice from Edmund Talbot, a reenactor and student of military history, and takes the advised precautions. Unfortunately, they are only partial successful and one of her supporters is killed at the next Council meeting.

Yet Sheida's group manages to recover all their Keys, talismans allowing them to vote on the Council, in the retreat from the Council chamber.
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