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"They Can Live in the Desert but Nowhere Else": A History of the Armenian Genocide (Human Rights and Crimes against Humanity) Hardcover – March 22, 2015

by Ronald Grigor Suny (Author)
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  • Series: Human Rights and Crimes against Humanity
  • Hardcover: 490 pages
  • Publisher: Princeton University Press; 1st edition (March 22, 2015)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0691147302
  • ISBN-13: 978-0691147307
  • Product Dimensions: 6.4 x 1.4 x 9.5 inches
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4.0 out of 5 starsScholarly but accessible to the general reader and also very timely
By RPA in VIrginia on May 14, 2015
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With the 2015 official centenary of the Armenian Genocide (dated from specific events in Istanbul in 1915), new, accessible scholarship on those events is welcome. Aa the grandson of Armenians who were deported during the Genocide, Ronald Grigor Suny writes with personal interest in the period but, as a scholar, he also writes with a non-partisan agenda and with an easy command of sources in Turkish, Armenian, Armeno-Turkish (Turkish written in the Armenian alphabet), German, French, and English. Without that range of primary sources, a credible history would not be possible.
Modern Turkey can only deny the term "genocide" if the standard for using it is the Holocaust, since while the Ottoman agenda was not a world free of Armenians, it was an Ottoman Empire free of visible Armenians--meaning Armenian communities and Armenian political activity and economic influence. So, in contrast to what happened in Germany and Eastern Europe in the 1940's, the Ottomans did not murder everyone of Armenian heritage, but there was a government-ordered and government-sponsored campaign to murder Armenian men (and many women and children) and to dissolve the remaining women and children into Turkish society as servants or slaves.
The story, as told here, is gripping and abundantly footnoted. Kindle technology makes it easy to toggle back and forth between a citation and its source. (Was a particular massacre ordered by Talat Pasha, or was it observed by the German ambassador, or was it reported as hearsay in a French newspaper? The difference is important, and with Suny's footnotes, you can tell.)
As with most current books, better editing would make a better impression and make the text easier to read.
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5.0 out of 5 starsThe First Modern Holocaust
By Paul Gelman on April 23, 2015
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Toward the end of the nineteenth century, the famous British Prime Minister William Gladstone depicted the Turks as a threat to Christianity and as a people whose principal quality was unbridled savagery. He called the Turks "the one great anti-human specimen of humanity. They left a broad line of blood wherever they went". Although this was a stereotype, Professor's Suny book demonstrates Gladsrone's words word by word.
This volume demonstrates, step by step, how the Armenian Holocaust happened. This he does in ten chapters, starting with a review of the history of the Armenians and then commencing with their lot in the 19th and the beginning of the 20th century. In 1915, some 2 million of them were living in the Ottoman Empire, most of them peasants and townspeople in the six provinces of easten Anatolia .Having lost many territories in the Balkan Wars (1912-1913), the Young Turks wanted a more homogenous empire. They were more than certain that the Armenians were conspiring with the Russians against the Ottoman Empire. In late 1914, massacres of Christians and Muslims occurred in the Caucasus and Persia, where Russian and Ottoman forces faced each other.
Following the Ottoman loss in a major battle on the Caucasian front, the Young Turks attributed this to Armenian treachery and thus set in motion the Armenian Holocaust, which, according to Professor Suny- would end only in 1917. The result of the atrocities committed was in killing more than 1.5 million Armenians. Women, children and old men in town after town were marched through the valleys and mountains of eastern Anatolia. Missionaries, diplomats and foreign military officers witnessed the convoys, recorded what they saw, and sent reports home about the death marches and killing fields.Read more ›
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5.0 out of 5 starsNo longer
By Linda M McKay on March 29, 2016
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Without any doubt this is the best book I have read about the Armenian Genocide. I am a writer myself and can appreciate the long road it must have taken to put this book together. Not only is the subject hard-edged, and cruel but it is complicated. It must have been hard to continue when the writing is relentlessly sad. You have unraveled the research and presented the result in the most well understood version I have seen. Personally as a second generation Armenian woman I appreciate your wisdom and perseverance. I thank you and your colleagues.
Today everyone knows that a million perhaps as many as two million Armenians were massacred by the Turkish people during the First World War. But in the forties and the fifty's it was not general knowledge, it was heavily denied by the Turkish population. The Armenian people were not talking about it. These people, my honored relatives, who I grew up with, were all immigrants. They had lived through the genocide and one way or another had escaped. In our house we were not allowed to talk about it or even listen to the stories. Books started to appear written by the lucky few who had escaped. I didn’t understand why I was not allowed to read them. I didn’t understand what they had gone through. Or that it was so terrible, the mental photographs they lived with so appalling, that they had to slam the door firmly shut on its grotesque memories. That was all way above my understanding.
But no longer. Linda McKay (Daviton)
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4.0 out of 5 starspersecution of an economically successful minority
By M. Heiss on June 19, 2015
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My interest in this book starts with an interest in the 20th century's wars on the economically successful.

I have studied Soviet collectivization and the Ukrainian famine, the expulsion of Indian merchants from Idi Amin's Uganda, Mao's Red Guards and their attacks on the educated and successful Chinese people, and this book on the Armenian genocide.

I'm in 8th grade. I think this is an interesting topic, because I study free enterprise, and the conditions that lead to economic prosperity seem so obvious.

This book was over my head in some places. It could have used a pronunciation guide to the Turkish and Armenian words. And a simple glossary: it took a while to figure out that catholicos probably was a bishop. There were many words like that. Also, more maps would have helped. There was a map of the area from Roman times, and a post-WWI partitioning map, but no good map showing the towns and mileti mentioned.

There were a few biographical portraits and some photographs of the aftermath of the attacks on Armenians (unpleasant). The easiest part of the book to read was the conclusion, which summarized causes, events, numbers, and explained what makes it genocide.

I'd like to thank the author, Mr. Suny, for helping me learn new information. I intend to read "Race and Economics" by Walter Williams next.
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