- Paperback: 352 pages
- Publisher: W. W. Norton & Company; 3 edition (February 4, 2014)
- Language: English
- ISBN-10: 0393935841
- ISBN-13: 978-0393935844
- Product Dimensions: 5.3 x 0.5 x 7.4 inches
- Shipping Weight: 9.6 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
- Average Customer Review: 4.4 out of 5 stars See all reviews (1,201 customer reviews)
- Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1,269 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
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The best tribute to "They Say / I Say" I've heard is this, from a student: "This is one book I'm not selling back to the bookstore." Nods all around the room. The students love this book. --Christine Ross, Quinnipiac University
The argument of this book is important--that there are "moves" to academic writing . . . and that knowledge of them can be generative. The template format is a good way to teach and demystify the moves that matter. I like this book a lot. --David Bartholomae, University of Pittsburgh
A brilliant book. . . . It's like a membership card in the academic club. --Eileen Seifert, DePaul University
Demystifies academic argumentation. --Patricia Bizzell, College of the Holy Cross"
This book demystifies rhetorical moves, tricks of the trade that many students are unsure about. It s reasonable, helpful, nicely written . . . and hey, it s true. I would have found it immensely helpful myself in high school and college. --Mike Rose, University of California, Los Angeles"
The best tribute to They Say / I Say I ve heard is this, from a student: This is one book I m not selling back to the bookstore. Nods all around the room. The students love this book. --Christine Ross, Quinnipiac University"
The argument of this book is important that there are moves to academic writing . . . and that knowledge of them can be generative. The template format is a good way to teach and demystify the moves that matter. I like this book a lot. --David Bartholomae, University of Pittsburgh"
A brilliant book. . . . It s like a membership card in the academic club. --Eileen Seifert, DePaul University"
Students need to walk a fine line between their work and that of others, and this book helps them walk that line, providing specific methods and techniques for introducing, explaining, and integrating other voices with their own ideas. --Libby Miles, University of Rhode Island"
This book uncovers the rhetorical conventions that transcend disciplinary boundaries, so that even freshmen, newcomers to the academy, are immediately able to join in the conversation. --Margaret Weaver, Missouri State University"
About the Author
Gerald Graff, a professor of English and education at the University of Illinois at Chicago and 2008 president of the Modern Language Association of America, has had a major impact on teachers through such books as Professing Literature: An Institutional History, Beyond the Culture Wars: How Teaching the Conflicts Can Revitalize American Education, and Clueless in Academe: How Schooling Obscures the Life of the Mind.
Cathy Birkenstein is a lecturer in English at the University of Illinois at Chicago. She has published essays on writing in College English, and, with Gerald Graff in The Chronicle of Higher Education, Academe, and College Composition and Communication.
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The explicit professional examples and the templates address one of the greatest difficulties in the writing of so many students, incorporating quotations smoothly, what "They Say," and helping students maintain their voice in what "I say."
According to my professor, when I entered class I was one of the best students they had encountered (after teaching for nearly a decade). I write creatively as a hobby, and had several years competitive forensics under my belt so civil discourse has become second nature. This book has short and tolerable chapters that helped even an "advanced" student like myself improve their work. I couldn't imagine someone reading 5 chapters of this book and walking away at the same level of skill. It's impossible. This book explores more than just technique, they elaborate on reasoning. These days, with current trends in social media, folks often forget we are writing our comments, essays, and reviews for a PURPOSE. "They Say / I Say" brings the author back to that purpose and teaches the writer empathy in addition to giving guidance on how to transition, how to support your claims, and so much more. It's a treasure I purchased to keep with me for life - so I can look back on it every now and then.
Get it. Stop thinking about it, and you could find yourself as grateful as I am today.
For some, academic writing can be no different than a “foreign language” and in that regard, the structure and templates provided in the book serve to significantly reduce the learning curve associated with academic writing. As for the criticism on whether templates serve to stifle creativity, I would argue that some forms of writing require more structure compared to others, which is why templates tend to serve well for such forms.
I thoroughly enjoyed reading through the book and can definitely foresee the need of referring back to it over and over again.
The sentence frames really are the most useful aspects of this book. I have to teach argumentative writing and the frames help me to model good writing to my students. It's a great tool to have on hand. Short and sweet.