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Z Micro Four Thirds Digital Camera with 1.5-Inch LCD, Black (E1CAM3C701)

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Compatible Mountings Micro Four Thirds
Aspect Ratio 4:3
Photo Sensor Technology CMOS
Supported File Format RAW
Image Stabilization Digital
Maximum Focal Length 300 Millimeters
Optical Zoom 1 x
Maximum Aperture 1 Millimeters
Brand Z
Model Name E1CAM3C701

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  • World's smallest 4K ultra high definition camera with interchangeable lens system and advanced focusing technology
  • Versatility: compatible with all Automatic Focus (AF) lenses from Lumix, Sigma, Olympus and more. Features continuous auto focus in both photo and video modes
  • Incredible low--light performance: motion compensated temporal filtering (MCTF) allows shooting up to 102,400 ISO (high image quality up to 6400 ISO)
  • Wi--Fi and Bluetooth enabled for easy communication with other mobile devices via Free iOS and Android apps. Wirelessly control camera settings, live stream, or manage content.
  • Perfect for drone users and remote camera control: camera can be remotely configured and content downloaded without landing the drone, leaving your vantage point
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The E1 Camera from Z is a complete innovation within the photography and video industry. The E1 delivers amazing quality without having to spend thousands of dollars. It is the smallest 4K, ultra-high definition camera with an interchangeable lens system. Key Features Interchangeable Lens System The E1's micro four-thirds lens mount can handle a wide range of AF (auto-focus) lenses available from brands such as Olympus, Panasonic Lumix, Leica and Sigma. It also supports a variety of existing MF (manual-focus) lenses. In lieu of bulky DSLRs, E1 allows you to travel with an arsenal of lenses to capture the highest-quality footage possible. Supreme Low-Light Performance The advanced 3D noise filters using motion compensated temporal filtering (MCTF ) allows for incredible low-light performance with the camera's ability to shoot at up to 102,400 ISO while maintaining high image quality, up to 6400 ISO. 4K Ultra-High Definition Recording Our camera easily captures cinema-quality 4K 4096x2160 video at 24 frames per second or ultra-high definition video 3840x2160 at 30 frames per second with H.264 compression. Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 4.0 Enabled The camera is enabled with integrated Wi-Fi 802.11n and Bluetooth 4.0 allowing for easy communication with mobile devices. iOS & Android Applications Our proprietary applications for iOS and Android are already available in the Apple App Store and Google Play. These apps provide allow you to control settings, live stream and manage content via your Wi-Fi or Bluetooth 4.0-enabled devices.

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    E1 At A Glance
    • 4k Ultra High Definition Video
    • Micro Four Thirds Lens Compatibility - Interchangeable Lens System & 16 Megapixel Photos
    • Incredible Low-Light Noise Filter Performance
    • Lightweight Magnesium Housing
    • WiFi & Bluetooth Connectivity Enabled & iOS & Android Applications
    • Drone & Aerial Photography

    E1 Camera by Z - Beyond Real

    Beyond Real.

    E1 Camera by Z is the world’s smallest 4K, ultra high definition camera with a micro four thirds (MFT) interchangeability lens system. A revolution in video and photo capture that fits in the palm of your hand. It’s Beyond Real.

    Z Camera was founded in 2013 by a vibrant team of digital imaging and information technology experts. We love to dream and push boundaries of what is currently available in video and photo engineering. Z Camera’s goal has always been to separate ourselves from traditional video and photo products by reimagining everything from the ground up!

    The E1 Camera by Z Camera is a complete innovation within the video and photography industry from people with passion! It delivers phenomenal quality without having to spend thousands of dollars. It’s the smallest 4k, body only, ultra-high definition camera with an interchangeable lens system.

    4K Ultra High Definition Recording

    E1 captures cinema-quality 4K video from a camera that fits in your pocket.

    The E1 camera by Z records 4k (4096 x 2160) and UHD (3840 x 2160) video recording in .MOV format using a H.264 high profile compression codec. 4K ultra high definition video modes use a slight crop of the sensor to provide full pixel readout for incredible quality imagery with reduced moire and aliasing. It also supports various other recording resolutions, giving you greater control over your videos.

    E1 Video Resolutions

    • 4096 x 2160 / 24 fps
    • 3840 x 2160 / 24, 25, 30 fps
    • 2880 x 2160 / 24, 25, 30 fps
    • 1920 x 1920 / 24, 25, 30 fps
    • 1920 x 1440 / 24, 25, 30 fps
    • 1920 x 1080 / 24, 25, 30, 50, 60 fps
    • 1280 x 720 / 50, 60, 240 fps
    • 840 x 480 / 25, 30 fps

    Compatible with micro four-thirds lenses made by:
    • Olympus
    • Panasonic
    • Leica
    • Sigma

    Micro Four Thirds Lens Compatibility - Interchangeable Lens System

    The E1 accepts a wide range of autofocus and manual focus micro four-thirds lenses.

    The E1 accepts a wide range of autofocus and manual focus micro four-thirds lenses.

    With the interchangeable lens system the E1’s micro four-thirds lens mount can accept lenses from many brands such as Olympus, Panasonic Lumix, Leica and Sigma. The Micro Four Thirds framework has a sensor size identical to a 4/3-inch video tube, and enables user to accomplish a shallow depth of field.

    The Most Advanced Technology Available

    Incredible Low-Light Noise Filter Performance

    The advanced 3D noise filters uses advanced motion compensated temporal filtering technology (MCTF) and allows for stunning low-light performance with the camera’s ability to shoot at up to 102,400 ISO while maintaining high image quality, up to 6400 ISO.

    Lightweight Magnesium Housing

    The E1 is one of the most compact interchangeable lens 4K camera’s available. Weighing just under 8.9 ounces (without a lens) and measuring only 3 x 2.2 inches and 2 inch in depth, the camera can literally fit into your pocket and can even be mounted and work in similar ways as an action camera. Playback videos and photos or perfectly frame your next shot using the 2.5 inch LCD screen. The durable lightweight die-cast magnesium body is specifically designed to dissipate the heat the image processor produces when recording 4K video.

    Remote Camera Control via iOS/Android App

    The iOS and Android applications provide users the ability to remotely power 'on', connect, preview, control and monitor settings, trigger, live stream, share, manage and download content with ease as the E1 camera is enabled with integrated Wi-Fi 802.11n, and Bluetooth 4.0.

    Drone and Aerial Photography

    For the professional and amatuer aerial and drone operator the camera can be controlled remotely and Aerial Photographers (AP) or pilots can power it 'on' remotely and download content to a connected iOs or Android device while on a shoot and lightweight which means longer flight times as it’s only 210g (battery:42g) One of the most functional qualities when using Z Cam is the ability to transmit in near real time on all the hardware applications that you prefer to use like Paralinx, and DJI Lightbridge.

    Box Contents

    Body: Magnesium Alloy Camera Frame (No Lens).

    Weight: Just under 8.9 ounces.

    Imperial Dimensions: 3 x 2.2 x 2 inches.

    AC/DC Power Adapter Charger.

    Two (2) 2000mAh rechargeable batteries included.

    User Manual.

    Warranty Card.

    Customer reviews

    3.1 out of 5 stars
    21 global ratings
    A tremendous amount of video capability in a very tiny, light, package.
    5 out of 5 stars
    A tremendous amount of video capability in a very tiny, light, package.
    A little perspective: My experience with filmmaking goes back to the double-8mm era. I learned how to edit broadcast quality film one summer working with a rented Moviola and spools of 16mm film and mag tape. It was a slow, expensive (about $2.50 for a minute of developed color film), process and the equipment needed ranged from a used Bolex H16 (about $3,500 in today's dollars) to Arriflexes that cost more to rent than an apartment in downtown Manhattan. Making a short sound film required either a lot of outside financing or a trust fund.The advances in video technology since then are nothing short of astounding to anyone who started in the film era. By the early 2000s it was possible to shoot theatrical quality video, and in 2005 the Red Camera came out- a camera that produced 4K video, shot in a non-proprietary format, and cost less to buy than it cost to rent the then-standard Sony cameras for a day. That led to an explosion of small, inexpensive, 4K cameras and the inclusion of 4K video on most new DSLRs. Today, the independent video you see on TV or on the Internet is as likely to have been shot with a DSLR as with a dedicated theatrical camera. That led to even smaller dedicated video cameras like the Blackmagic cameras that used various digital camera lens mounts, and cameras like the one under review- a 4K digital video camera that weight just a few ounces, and fits in the palm of your hand.The micro-four thirds mount has become a standard for the smallest 4K video cameras, and that gives the independent video producer a lot of options for not very much money. I tested the Micro with a number of my dedicated MFT lenses ranging from an 8mm fisheye to a 100-300m zoom, all of which functioned well with the Micro. I also tried a number of non-MFT lenses in manual focusing mode via adapters, including a 180mm/2.8 ED Nikkor, a 25mm C-mount lens, and for good measure, my 1400mm Questar telescope. Those last three three really involved hanging the camera off the lens rather than the other way around, but the Micro is so light it's easy to do. There are also now a number of dedicated MFT video lenses that provide useful focal lengths, manual focusing, and fast f/ratios for depth of field control, like Rokkinon's 14m/2.8 which sells for under $350.The small size of the Z-cam E1 makes it tempting to shoot with it hand-held, but that's not really recommended; hand held video displayed on a 36-55" monitor is pretty vertigo inducing. Better to use a simple commercial or DIY "steady cam" type mount (there are plenty of how-tos on the 'net) or a tripod. The real power of this camera, though, is that it's light enough for applications where a 4K capable DSLR would be too big and heavy, like a medium sized drone or other R/C aircraft, or a kite, or even a large amateur rocket (assuming it could take the acceleration). It's light enough for helmet mounting or, I imagine, collar mounting on a large dog. The ability to control the camera from a tablet or smartphone via Bluetooth or WiFi makes this a relatively easy option.I'm particularly excited about the E1's high speed capabilities. Along with a selectable 24/30fps in 4K resolution, it can record 60fps at 1080p HD resolution, and 240fps- that's ten times normal frame rate- at 720p HD. Not a true high speed video system but fast enough to slow down a lot of phenomena and do it it HD to boot. The claimed light is ridiculously high, too, with full resolution claimed at 6,400 ASA and a top speed of 102,400, thanks to an improved noise reduction algorithm. It has a dynamic range of 11 stops, which is really mind boggling to those of us who shot Kodachrome, with its 1-1/2 stop range. Thanks to the remote control capability all sorts of time intervals are possible, too, which is handy for speeding up plant growth and other natural phenomena.The E1 isn't cheap, and those who already have 4K capable cameras aren't going to want to run out and replace their with this camera. Someone starting from scratch, though, might well consider it a viable option that costs around a third of what a new Blackmagic MFT video camera costs. Using the aforementioned Rokkinon lens and an external microphone and steadycam-type mount, it would be possible to build a video system capable of making theatrical quality videos for not much over a thousand dollars. Add a decent laptop for video editing and you're a full video production studio for less than three grand. Not bad.
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    Reviewed in the United States on June 2, 2016
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    A little perspective: My experience with filmmaking goes back to the double-8mm era. I learned how to edit broadcast quality film one summer working with a rented Moviola and spools of 16mm film and mag tape. It was a slow, expensive (about $2.50 for a minute of developed color film), process and the equipment needed ranged from a used Bolex H16 (about $3,500 in today's dollars) to Arriflexes that cost more to rent than an apartment in downtown Manhattan. Making a short sound film required either a lot of outside financing or a trust fund.

    The advances in video technology since then are nothing short of astounding to anyone who started in the film era. By the early 2000s it was possible to shoot theatrical quality video, and in 2005 the Red Camera came out- a camera that produced 4K video, shot in a non-proprietary format, and cost less to buy than it cost to rent the then-standard Sony cameras for a day. That led to an explosion of small, inexpensive, 4K cameras and the inclusion of 4K video on most new DSLRs. Today, the independent video you see on TV or on the Internet is as likely to have been shot with a DSLR as with a dedicated theatrical camera. That led to even smaller dedicated video cameras like the Blackmagic cameras that used various digital camera lens mounts, and cameras like the one under review- a 4K digital video camera that weight just a few ounces, and fits in the palm of your hand.

    The micro-four thirds mount has become a standard for the smallest 4K video cameras, and that gives the independent video producer a lot of options for not very much money. I tested the Micro with a number of my dedicated MFT lenses ranging from an 8mm fisheye to a 100-300m zoom, all of which functioned well with the Micro. I also tried a number of non-MFT lenses in manual focusing mode via adapters, including a 180mm/2.8 ED Nikkor, a 25mm C-mount lens, and for good measure, my 1400mm Questar telescope. Those last three three really involved hanging the camera off the lens rather than the other way around, but the Micro is so light it's easy to do. There are also now a number of dedicated MFT video lenses that provide useful focal lengths, manual focusing, and fast f/ratios for depth of field control, like Rokkinon's 14m/2.8 which sells for under $350.

    The small size of the Z-cam E1 makes it tempting to shoot with it hand-held, but that's not really recommended; hand held video displayed on a 36-55" monitor is pretty vertigo inducing. Better to use a simple commercial or DIY "steady cam" type mount (there are plenty of how-tos on the 'net) or a tripod. The real power of this camera, though, is that it's light enough for applications where a 4K capable DSLR would be too big and heavy, like a medium sized drone or other R/C aircraft, or a kite, or even a large amateur rocket (assuming it could take the acceleration). It's light enough for helmet mounting or, I imagine, collar mounting on a large dog. The ability to control the camera from a tablet or smartphone via Bluetooth or WiFi makes this a relatively easy option.

    I'm particularly excited about the E1's high speed capabilities. Along with a selectable 24/30fps in 4K resolution, it can record 60fps at 1080p HD resolution, and 240fps- that's ten times normal frame rate- at 720p HD. Not a true high speed video system but fast enough to slow down a lot of phenomena and do it it HD to boot. The claimed light is ridiculously high, too, with full resolution claimed at 6,400 ASA and a top speed of 102,400, thanks to an improved noise reduction algorithm. It has a dynamic range of 11 stops, which is really mind boggling to those of us who shot Kodachrome, with its 1-1/2 stop range. Thanks to the remote control capability all sorts of time intervals are possible, too, which is handy for speeding up plant growth and other natural phenomena.

    The E1 isn't cheap, and those who already have 4K capable cameras aren't going to want to run out and replace their with this camera. Someone starting from scratch, though, might well consider it a viable option that costs around a third of what a new Blackmagic MFT video camera costs. Using the aforementioned Rokkinon lens and an external microphone and steadycam-type mount, it would be possible to build a video system capable of making theatrical quality videos for not much over a thousand dollars. Add a decent laptop for video editing and you're a full video production studio for less than three grand. Not bad.
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    5.0 out of 5 stars A tremendous amount of video capability in a very tiny, light, package.
    Reviewed in the United States on June 2, 2016
    A little perspective: My experience with filmmaking goes back to the double-8mm era. I learned how to edit broadcast quality film one summer working with a rented Moviola and spools of 16mm film and mag tape. It was a slow, expensive (about $2.50 for a minute of developed color film), process and the equipment needed ranged from a used Bolex H16 (about $3,500 in today's dollars) to Arriflexes that cost more to rent than an apartment in downtown Manhattan. Making a short sound film required either a lot of outside financing or a trust fund.

    The advances in video technology since then are nothing short of astounding to anyone who started in the film era. By the early 2000s it was possible to shoot theatrical quality video, and in 2005 the Red Camera came out- a camera that produced 4K video, shot in a non-proprietary format, and cost less to buy than it cost to rent the then-standard Sony cameras for a day. That led to an explosion of small, inexpensive, 4K cameras and the inclusion of 4K video on most new DSLRs. Today, the independent video you see on TV or on the Internet is as likely to have been shot with a DSLR as with a dedicated theatrical camera. That led to even smaller dedicated video cameras like the Blackmagic cameras that used various digital camera lens mounts, and cameras like the one under review- a 4K digital video camera that weight just a few ounces, and fits in the palm of your hand.

    The micro-four thirds mount has become a standard for the smallest 4K video cameras, and that gives the independent video producer a lot of options for not very much money. I tested the Micro with a number of my dedicated MFT lenses ranging from an 8mm fisheye to a 100-300m zoom, all of which functioned well with the Micro. I also tried a number of non-MFT lenses in manual focusing mode via adapters, including a 180mm/2.8 ED Nikkor, a 25mm C-mount lens, and for good measure, my 1400mm Questar telescope. Those last three three really involved hanging the camera off the lens rather than the other way around, but the Micro is so light it's easy to do. There are also now a number of dedicated MFT video lenses that provide useful focal lengths, manual focusing, and fast f/ratios for depth of field control, like Rokkinon's 14m/2.8 which sells for under $350.

    The small size of the Z-cam E1 makes it tempting to shoot with it hand-held, but that's not really recommended; hand held video displayed on a 36-55" monitor is pretty vertigo inducing. Better to use a simple commercial or DIY "steady cam" type mount (there are plenty of how-tos on the 'net) or a tripod. The real power of this camera, though, is that it's light enough for applications where a 4K capable DSLR would be too big and heavy, like a medium sized drone or other R/C aircraft, or a kite, or even a large amateur rocket (assuming it could take the acceleration). It's light enough for helmet mounting or, I imagine, collar mounting on a large dog. The ability to control the camera from a tablet or smartphone via Bluetooth or WiFi makes this a relatively easy option.

    I'm particularly excited about the E1's high speed capabilities. Along with a selectable 24/30fps in 4K resolution, it can record 60fps at 1080p HD resolution, and 240fps- that's ten times normal frame rate- at 720p HD. Not a true high speed video system but fast enough to slow down a lot of phenomena and do it it HD to boot. The claimed light is ridiculously high, too, with full resolution claimed at 6,400 ASA and a top speed of 102,400, thanks to an improved noise reduction algorithm. It has a dynamic range of 11 stops, which is really mind boggling to those of us who shot Kodachrome, with its 1-1/2 stop range. Thanks to the remote control capability all sorts of time intervals are possible, too, which is handy for speeding up plant growth and other natural phenomena.

    The E1 isn't cheap, and those who already have 4K capable cameras aren't going to want to run out and replace their with this camera. Someone starting from scratch, though, might well consider it a viable option that costs around a third of what a new Blackmagic MFT video camera costs. Using the aforementioned Rokkinon lens and an external microphone and steadycam-type mount, it would be possible to build a video system capable of making theatrical quality videos for not much over a thousand dollars. Add a decent laptop for video editing and you're a full video production studio for less than three grand. Not bad.
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    Reviewed in the United States on June 16, 2016
    *** Update... I bought a second copy....these things are just a dream to mount allowing you to capture some very cool shots****

    A bit of background - I run a photography and videography company and I use video cameras virtually everyday. MY "Go to" cameras are the Panasonic GH4, Panasonic DVX200, Canon A30, and for some uses... GoPros (Hero3 and Hero 4 Black editions). I film static shots....action shots... and high speed shots and then I use the Adobe packages for editing. While I am a long way from being Hollywood.... I am not exactly an amateur.

    My first question on the Z Micro was..... why does it exist? GoPros are smaller and the Panasonic GX8 (which is about the same price) is a very well-respected 4K MFT camera. The answer .... is pretty awesome. The Z MFT is a very quirky camera - and as a "camera" it is seriously flawed. Some of those flaws (ok, most of them follow it into video mode) but this baby has a few excellent features....

    **** It is an affordable, large(ish) sensor camera, that uses removable lenses, that can shoot 720P at 240fps.****

    That is is it folks..... if you need HD at 240flps.... this camera absolutely is a must have. Throw in the fact that it uses the same lenses as the GH4 and you will have thought that you died and went to heaven. It is the ultimate no-brainer purchase. While the GoPro Hero4 Black can also shoot 720 240flps the footage is milky and grainy.... nearly unusable ...the result of the smaller sensor and the fixed lens. The Z MFT doesn't have GREAT IQ at 720P 240fps, but it is definitely usable.

    Ok.... onto to some of the finer points

    - Overall camera Image Quality (IQ) - definitely usable... although the colors are not especially vibrant - even when using my high-end Panasonic Leica 25mm f1.4 . This can mostly be fixed in production, but I wish it was a bit better. It is still considerably better than GoPros

    - Low light performance - yeah, not great.... clearly not to the level of the big boys in the industry (Nikon, canon, or even Panasonic)

    - Lenses - I LOVE the fact that I can use my whole variety of MFT lenses. I regularly use my Panasonic 12-35mm f2.8 (for most shots), Panasonic Leica 25mm f1.4, Panasonic Leica 42.5mm f1.2, and my Panasonic wide angle f4.0

    - Battery life - Very good... maybe better than my GH4. The crazy thing is that they give you a second battery!

    - Picture mode - honestly.... it is a mess. Basically, mpossible to shoot in true manual mode or at least without spending 5 minutes to set-up. You are basically forced to use aperture priority mode... . in video mode you totally lose the ability to control the shutter.... *sigh* . I am forced to adjust the aperture and then use an EV adjustment to gain/dim my brightness.... this is pretty lame.

    Focus - also a mess. Autofocus is crazy slow and only happens once the camera is videoing or taking a picture. You can not dial in the autofocus and then hit record. For this reason I leave it in manual focus. However, another crazy thing (and I am not sure how this is even POSSIBLE) the camera seems to reset the focus (even while in manual focus mode) whenever the camera is turned off. So.... I focus...video... turn the camera off (while not moving the camera) and I am forced to refocus.

    Aperture - in another hard to explain quirk.... the Z MFT doesn't seem to recognize manual aperture settings. Meaning when I adjustthe aperture on the lens itself the camera doesn't seem o recognize the change.

    Menus- The menus are not hard to maneuver, but they certainly lack options. '

    Size - It is pretty small.... maybe 33% larger than a GoPro, but still small enough for a drone or to be used with specialty C-clamp mounts. This allows me to mount the camera on small tree branches, poles, or other out-of-the-box areas for capturing shots. This is a huge plus for me.

    - Use as an Action Camera - This depends... if the goal is to have the camera stationary with the use of manual focus you can do some wonders with the Z. IF however, your goal is to mount it onto a helmet, bike, or anything moving the autofocus will just not work well enough for your application... it certainly is NOT a GoPro in that regard.

    Connectivity - can use WiFi to connect directly to your phone through an app in order to give you a live feed. This has limited use for me and I have not tried it yet.

    Compression - produces MP4 files at a decent compression. This is likely where the loss of some of the color comes from (at least that is my guess).

    Media - Micro USB - just like the GoPros ... i typically use either 64G or 128G cards.

    Final Verdict - The Z Micro has some issues.... it definitely isn't *perfect* but what it can do is special. I now use the Z MFT for all of the shots that used to require a GoPro (unless the camera is exposed to the elements then I am back to the GoPro). Again, if you are looking for a small 4K camera that can capture 720 at 240fps AND you already have MFT lenses ---- this one is a legitimate no-brainer purchase. Just remember that this camera will drive you crazy on occasion.
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    Reviewed in the United States on November 9, 2016
    I had high hopes for this unit for filming minatures in 4K, using the camera's small size as a means of getting into low and tight spots. Though it does exceed in this capacity - and it has all the settings you'd expect from a professional camera or video-capable DSLR - the firmware sharpness settings (on firmware v2.3) render this camera virtually unusuable.

    How unusable? Settings "1" and "2" (least sharp) look like someone hit the footage in post with a blur filter. Impossible to be even remotely sharp on anything. But bump it up to setting "3" (mid-range sharpness), and the footage becomes way over the top sharp, with every edge shimmering like an ENG camera turned to max sharpness. In all honestly, it looks like footage shot during a high school's Amatuer Night for Videographers where only 10-year-old ENG cameras were available. Barely usable, to put it nicely.

    I've been told a new firmware has been released, and from the looks of test footage, isn't much better. More importantly though, the Z Camera app - on both iOS and Android - will NOT manually update the camera no matter what I do. Manual says to shut off auto-updates and turn on cellular data, reload the settings, and a "Camera Models" menu will show up. Well, I've been here two hours trying it every single way, and it doesn't happen.

    Definitely willing to update the review if the firmware and app are improved to a usable state. Right now, I'd consider this camera in beta - in a worse state than even Blackmagic in the early days. If you're willing to hold onto it and hope for improvements, get it. If you want a replacement for your Blackmagic Cinema Camera, this isn't it.
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