Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X Flight Stick (PS3 & PC)
- Wide hand-rest for optimal comfort
- Programmable: the 12 buttons and 5 axles are entirely programmable
- Dual-system aerodynamic control: by rotating handle (with integrated blocking system) or by progressive tilting lever
- Internal memory: to save all of your programming, even with the joystick disconnected
- High-precision joystick with adjustable resistance
- Programmable: the 12 buttons and 5 axles are entirely programmable
- Detachable, real-size, ergonomically-designed throttle control
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Thrustmaster is a designer and manufacturer of interactive entertainment hardware and accessories for PC and game consoles. Wide hand-rest for optimal comfort. Programmable: the 12 buttons and 5 axles are entirely programmable. (**) This joystick is not distributed under licence or with the approval of Microsoft Corporation / Ubisoft / 505 Games. Configurations by default: PC : Flight Simulator X (**) Microsoft PS3 & PC : Tom Clancy’s HawX (**) Ubisoft PS3 : IL-2 Sturmovik Birds of prey (**) 505 Games. Unique: Plug & Play for ultra-simple and fast installation with all functions pre-configured for immediate takeoff (without worrying about configuration). Detachable, real-size, ergonomically-designed throttle control. Exclusive "MAPPING" button: all functions may be instantly switched around between each other. Dual-system aerodynamic control: by rotating handle (with integrated blocking system) or by progressive tilting lever. High-precision joystick with adjustable resistance. Trigger for brakes (civil flight) or for rapid fire (military flight) + multi-directional hat (panoramic view). Internal memory: to save all of your programming, even with the joystick disconnected. Weighted base for greater stability. Exclusive "PRESET" button": to switch, while playing, instantly from one programme to another
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I've done flight sims and whatnot since I was a kid. I love them. I remember, way back in the day before buying online was a thing, circling things like the Thrustmaster controls in catalogs for Christmas. It was way out of our budget back then, but now that I'm a grown man with his own money, I finally bought a good HOTAS controller to start with.
I have arthritis; I've played Elite using a gamepad, but found my hands hurt after only 15-30 minutes of gameplay. With this? I'm golden. Much more comfortable. I set this on my lap (with it combined, rather than separated) and can play for hours on end comfortably. The hat switch is the only part that gives me any trouble, but that's to be expected with my control mapping in E:D.
Easy to map. Setting it up in E:D wasn't a problem, and there are lots of people who post configs to reference or even copy over.
Resistance: The throttle control is my favorite part here. The center notch works great. The stick itself stock had just the right amount of resistance, but I like that I can adjust that, too.
Button positioning: Everything I need is within reach, but not so close that I might accidentally hit the wrong buttons.
Cost: An easy one, but worth it, too.
It could use more buttons, or, ideally, some switches with lights. I'd love to be able to flip a switch to arm weapons or deploy landing gear.
Throttle twist: This would be nice as well for things like lateral thrusters, but isn't a deal breaker.
Putting it together is kind of a pain; having a simpler way to attach/detach would be nice. Thankfully, once I got it combined, I really have no desire to separate it again.
Also, having a secondary hat switch would be nice on the throttle. Still, not a deal breaker.
Overall, I definitely recommend this if you're a gamer who's looking to finally grab a HOTAS, an older gamer with arthritis who needs something to game with that's more comfortable, or if you just want to pretend you're in the... DANGER ZOOOOONE!
Unfortunately, the good middle ground used to be Saitek, but pretty much everything they make is terrible now and so you have to choose between cheap and ultra-expensive.
And you will notice that this thing is cheap. It works, and it's accurate, but it feels like a toy and the throttle action is terrible. There's a big notch right in the middle (which is dumb in the first place, as it should be toward the back end of travel to simulate thrust reversers while still leaving you most of the travel for normal throttle), and when I say it's big, I mean it's huge. This is like a flaps detent, and it's made worse by the fact that the rest of the travel is very loose. There's no friction drag at all on the throttle travel, so until you get used to it you tend to fling it from idle to 50%, then stop, press harder to overcome the detent, and then slam it straight to 100%.
The throttle base button placements are dumb because that's where the heel of your hand hits when you take it off the throttle so that you don't accidentally move it since it's so loose, and so you end up spamming 1 to 3 commands.
The stick itself is actually very comfortable - it reminds me of the old Logitech Wingman Extreme stick. You could use this thing for hours without your hand getting tired. Unfortunately, the button placements are awkward - if you're in the habit of safing your trigger finger by resting it above the trigger, you're going to hit an overly-large button. The overall theme of this stick is that buttons tend to be where you don't want them to be, and they tend to not be where you do want them.
The other main problem with the stick is that while you can separate the stick and the throttle, which is good, the cable between them is entirely too short. Unless you have a very small keyboard, you won't be able to put the two on either side of it. You certainly won't be able to put the throttle where it should naturally be, which is slightly outboard of your shoulder. They need to make the cable at least a foot longer to give decent separation between the two.
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While not really a must, joysticks of this type make flightsims and spacesims much more intuitive and enjoyable. You push the throttle stick forward, and you intuitively understand you've accelerated your ship.
Compared to other flightsticks of similar prices, this one seems to be the best choice. (To anyone comparing about the price, keep in mind that a wireless xbox controller is similarly priced.)
The buttons on the stick and throttle are all easy to reach, and the 4-way button on the right joystick maps nicely onto the power distributor in Elite. My one complaint is that for a game like Elite Dangerous, 10 - odd buttons are not enough for all the different ship functions you might want to access without losing focus of the game screen. You can however, map these on your keyboard.
The two parts clip in the middle, but can be detached and separated by about a metre (limited by cable length). This means you can keep them on the side of your desk, or exactly where your arms feel most comfortable, but also allows you to use it on the move (well, more or less), since you can clip the two parts together and put them on your knees (I've done it with a laptop). It is a little bit big to easily fit in a backpack though, so bringing it with you to your lunch break might be a challenge.
Another important factor is that it works right out of the box. No external drivers required, and the 3 games I've used it with so far all automatically recognise it and map the controls accordingly. Elite even has a specific controls layout for this particular flightstick.
Oh, and it came in a nice (if a bit bulky) box which, if you can figure out how to put the joystick back into it, will allow you to hide it from dust / transport it without damage / so on.
Overall, a must have for flightsim and spacesim players.
Having just installed x-plane and really enjoyed it I was desperate for a better form of control than mouse and keyboard. In amongst the questions and answers there is reference to the Thrustmaster working with an iMac even though it only specifies PC/PS3 etc. However there often seems to be someone saying that it doesn't work, whether or not this is genuine or people being deliberately unhelpful; I don't know....Anyway I took a punt on this and it works very well with my 2017 iMac and Mojave. Instantly recognised by x-plane and easy to set up. I can't compare to anything else except using a mouse and it's infinitely better, making x-plane so much more worthwhile to work on.
Hopefully if you have an iMac/x-plane and you're looking for a joystick then you know you can consider this one as there doesn't seem to be many out there badged as iMac compatible.
Not knowing whether I would like E:D I didn't want to spend a lot, so I picked up a Speedlink Black Widow (the cheapest HOTAS I could find).
Well within no time at all it was clear that E:D had me hooked, and I started looking at possible upgrades from the Black Widow, which, while a decent enough controller for the price, is not particularly accurate, has a limited number of buttons and lacks yaw control on the stick (though it does have an analog rocker button axis on the throttle which I use for yaw).
I shortlisted the X52 from Saitek and the T-Flight from Thrustmaster. I spent a long time reading/watching reviews and trying to weigh up the pros and cons of both given that there is obviously a substantial price difference.
In the end I was swayed by many positive reviews to go for the cheaper T-Flight. This was a mistake, and I shall explain why:-
Whilst it is undoubtedly a good controller for the money, it is still very much an entry level HOTAS and as such is constructed of very inexpensive materials. Had this been the first HOTAS I bought, I would probably have been happy enough, but as I already have the Black Widow, it is just not enough of an upgrade and in some ways is inferior to that slightly cheaper stick.
The T-Flight has slightly improved precision over the Black Widow along with a few more buttons and the additional yaw axis on the stick itself, but when I compare the feel of the two, the Black Widow wins hands down. Whilst it is still plastic, it has a kind of soft-touch finish to it which is so much more comfortable than the hard plastic of the T-Flight. Also the buttons have a very cheap, loud, 'clicky' feel to them and the trigger is quite uncomfortable on the T-Flight whereas the buttons on the Black Widow are more 'cushioned', and the trigger is larger with more rounded edges. For me at least, this makes moderate to prolonged use far easier/more comfortable with the Black Widow.
Good enough as a cheap, entry level HOTAS.
Not a good choice as an upgrade from the Speedlink Black Widow.
For Eve Valkyrie though, I was zipping about in no time (outstanding in VR btw).
The unit detaches so you can have the stick and throttle separate. All the buttons are easy to reach and seem to be placed in logical positions.
I've seen comments on the build quality feeling cheap. I really disagree. However, as I said this is my first flight stick so I can't compare. May seem like a downgrade to the veterans! For the price, you really can't go wrong with this.
ALSO, if you are new and confused like I was, get the PS3 one. It's cheaper and works with PC. Why would anyone get the PC one?!
Works straight away in flight sim world and has adjustable stick resistance to match your flying style. Well built and plenty of buttons for controlling aircraft functions. BTW it has 2 rudder controls, one in the stick and one on the power handle.
Next one purchased in 2017 and has had to be replaced by thrustmaster twice, both times because yaw either stops working or becomes locked on. In this case they didn't get constant use either as it's a long process to get a replacement, lots of hoops then cut the cable, send a picture and wait a month so I had to buy another. that's been replaced once.
So first time round 1 T Flight lasted 3 years, Now I've had 5 in 3 years and I'm about to have to go through the process with Thrustmaster again to get a 6th, so we are looking more like 3 years gameplay dropping to 6 months.
having to buy 2 so you can continue to play is a pain.
the problem though, their upgraded sticks seem to be just as unreliable and logitech reviews show a similar issue there, so not many other options to go for unless you have money to burn.
This is the best introductory HOTAS (Hand On Throttle And Stick) controller that you can get on a budget. I worked flawlessly in Elite Dangerous and I was very satisfied with its quality. There are plenty of programmable buttons on the controller and even adjustable tension screws on the bottom to adjust the sensitively of the stick to fit your needs.
If you are interested in purchasing a HOTAS for your flight-simulator games, this is a AMAZING product to buy. I did not want to spend $100+ on my first HOTAS since I was just getting it for a video game, but it turns out that even after a year long, I still own this today and I don't feel the need to upgrade.
I recommend this product. I obsessively researched for hours in finding the best Hotas for my money. If I save you any time at all, let me know that I was Helpful.
I will be asking for a replacement. Heard some have this issue but not all.
Detachable throttle control
Direct configuration for immediate takeoff!! (Cool or what)
Entirely programmable for PC and (PS3 - I can't test this as I don't have one)
Its Plug & Play (Litterally and Ive no issues with any version of Windows from 7 upwards)
Extremely easy to use
Dual-system control - you can rotate the handle or by tilting
High-precision with adjustable resistance - reminds me of my older force feedback pro
Wide hand-rest for optimal comfort - I like this having bigger hands
Weighted base for greater stability - ok as long as you go crazy lol
A PRESET button allows you to switch while playing from one programme to another
The internal memory allows you to save your programming even when disconnected
The MAPPING button means that all functions can switched around (great if you do things the opposite way to others)
12 buttons and 5 axles entirely programmable
Trigger for brakes (civil flight) or for rapid fire (military flight) + multi-directional hat (panoramic view)
The functions are pre-configured and are defaulted to the following on PC (Im using PC):
Flight Simulator X Microsoft
Tom Clancy’s H.A.W.X
Tom Clancy’s H.A.W.X.2
I haven't found any yet, unless you compare it to FAR more expensive joysticks. But you need to spend a fortune to get better than this one.
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I purely bought this for ELITE, as many others before me have done, I reviewed loads of joysticks and reviews, noticed that prices ranged from around £20 to £250+ and to be honest for the price you get more bang for your buck with this than any other. Its well made, fun to use, works really well, and makes game play far more realistic. Is it perfect no, but its damned close. I would buy another one in a heartbeat.
Natürlich kann man mühelos Hunderte von Euros für einen unglaublich massiven, flexiblen und präzisen Stick zu erwerben. Da ich das Ganze aber erstmal probieren wollte, entschied ich mich für den T.Flight. Er ist komplett aus Kunststoff, macht aber dennoch einen soliden Eindruck.
Die beiden Elemente kann man entweder, wie abgebildet, durch eine Hakenverbindung zusammenstecken und benutzen, oder sie voneinander trennen, wobei sie durch ein kurzes Kabel verbunden sind. Ich habe normalerweise den Schubhebel links von der Tastatur, und den Stick rechts (man kann alle möglichen Funktionen in E:D auf den Stick legen, dennoch benutze ich für einige Aktionen noch Tasten, z.B. das Ausfahren des Landegestells oder das Beantragen der Landeerlaubnis). Das Kabel ist nicht übermässig lang, meine Steelactor-Gaming Tastatur passt jedoch dazwischen. Auch das USB-Kabel zum Anschluss ist lang genug, obwohl mein PC unter meinem recht großen Schreibtisch steht und ich das Kabel nach hinten führe.
Der Stick liegt ausgezeichnet in der Hand und ist komfortabel bedienbar. Neben der Bewegung in alle Richtungen kann man ihn nach links und rechts drehen, was ich auch bei E:D benutze... durch Kippen des Hebels kippe ich mein Schiff, durch Drehen rotiere ich es. Ideal.
Tasten und Quickbuttons sind genug vorhanden, so dass ich z.B. Waffen wählen und abfeuern, meinen Boost aktivieren, ein Ziel aussuchen kann und dennoch noch weitere Funktionen nur übe den Stick abrufen kann (für viele Spiele, z.B. E:D und Star Citizen gibt es übrigens im Netz empfohlene Tastenbelegungen von Benutzern, die teils enorm hilfreich sind).
Es braucht ein wenig, sich alle Funktionen zu merken, aber man gewöhnt sich dennoch schnell dran. Ich bin mit dem T.Flight sehr zufrieden, und die Probleme, die ich zuerst hatte (Schubhebel zu ungenau) lagen nicht am Stick, sondern konnten durch Ändern der Optionen im Spiel behoben werden. Ein winziges Manko: Der Stick begann nach einiger Zeit zu quietschen. Nicht allzu laut, und wenn ich mit Kopfhörer spiele oder nebenbei Musik oder einen Podcast höre, fällt es nicht auf. Der eine oder andere mag sich jedoch leicht gestört fühlen, auch wenn das Quietschen wahrlich nicht laut ist.
Fazit: Für den Preis ein toller Stick speziell für den Einstieg. Klar, es gibt enorm teure Sticks, die noch solider verarbeitet und besser ausgestattet sind. Wer aber einen guten Stick für den Einstieg sucht oder einfach nicht so viel investieren will, trifft meiner Meinung nach mit dem T.Flight eine sehr gute Wahl, egal ob es für Elite:Dangerous oder andere Spiele geht.
Works a treat with DCS World and Elite Dangerous and all buttons can be rebound easily. The Joystick itself offers good levels of feel and sensitivity which is very useful for DCS being a proper flight sim. My only remark is the z-axis (joystick twist) seems very all or nothing, but this is a minor gripe. The joystick is also comfortable and ergonomically designed with all the buttons within reach in sensible positions.
The throttle is light and smooth through it's travel though it does have a notch in the middle. Which is great for Elite Dangerous as engines are either in forward thrust or rear but not so great for flight sims where a completely linear action would be better but to be honest you kinda get used to it after a little while and I have heard that it can be modified if one so desires.
It doesn't have sucker caps on the bottom but it is actually quite heavy and I haven't lifted or moved it at all while playing even when moving the joystick around fairly vigorously.
As far as longevity is concerned I can't say at this point - I've had it less than two weeks but I hear they last very well if looked after - but first impressions are extremely positive. As I said, I honestly don't think you'll find a better HOTAS for less than forty quid. Top dog!
The unit feels great to use, although to be fair I've not used anything else I can compare it to. It certainly feels significantly better than playing the game with an X360 controller. It took a little bit of getting used to initially, but before long it was like second nature - I wouldn't go back now. Other than mapping the controls, the HOTAS was good to go straight from unboxing. No modification was required to get a good mid-point on the throttle, no spring replacement required in the joystick - all things I understand some people need to do with other competitors.
My only concern with this HOTAS is build quality. I'm not concerned that it feels plasticky - for the price, I'd expect nothing more. However, while it feels generally fairly sturdy I often wonder how long it will last. I've been using it a lot for a couple of months now with no problems, but we'll see what happens in the future. Having said that, I'm aware of many reports that the more expensive competitors have build problems all of their own, so keep that in mind.
I use it for elite dangerous and the buttons are already mapped out satisfactorily from the start, so it really was plug and play.
If you are looking for a budget HOTAS then look no further. An excellent buy.