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I loved this hotas flight stick for the 2 years I've owned it. And then one day it started acting up.
And mind you, I have not used this regularly, or put an abusive amount of hours on it. I only use it to play Elite Dangerous, and I'm pretty casual.
The RZ-Axis (twisting motion for the yaw in flight), started erratically moving on its own. To make a long story short, Thrustmaster technical support led me along a long list of things to try to narrow down the issue and rule out software or my own PC. In the end, it was in fact a failure of the potentiometer inside the device. Thrustmaster seemed to be willing to send me a replacement, until they knew I had owned it for more than one year, at which point they said they would do nothing for me.
Less than 2 years of use for what was a $70 controller when I bought it seems absurd. And if Thrustmaster is only supporting their product for 1 year that ought to tell you something.
Once I started googling "T16000 RZ axis failure" I was shocked with the sheer volume of people having this exact issue. So many people, and with such poor support from Thrustmaster, that there are YouTube walkthroughs to de-solder, clean, and replace the RZ potentiometer, multiple Reddit, Frontier (Elite Dangerous) forum posts, and general Q/A about the exact issue I'm having. It isn't an isolated failure. And TM isn't helping anyone.
I'd honestly recommend Logtiech devices at this price point. Thrustmaster missed the mark really hard here, and their lack of support left me feeling really regretful that I bought their product.
UPDATE:
It is now loudly creaking when I pitch up and down. Reduced rating to one star - find a better joystick.
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The New T.16000M FCS.
Thrustmaster has devoted its 25 years of expertise in flight sim controllers to meet the growing demand from flight simmers in general – and space simmers in particular.
The T.16000M FCS has been designed for advanced fliers looking for comprehensive, realistic controls as an alternative to using a mouse and keyboard.
The T.16000M FCS (Flight Control System) flight stick is compatible with PC via USB in Windows 10, 8, 7 and Vista (32-bit and 64-bit).
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T.16000M FCSThe T.16000M FCS features 4 independent axes, including twist rudder (controlled by rotating the stick), 16 action buttons with “braille”-style physical button identification, one 8-way Point of View (PoV) hat switch and an ergonomic trigger. Its striking orange accents and backlighting bring gamers’ immersion to a whole new level. |
H.E.A.R.T HallEffect AccuRate TechnologyIn order to give the user high-precision performance, pitch and roll on the T.16000M FCS flight stick employ H.E.A.R.T HallEffect AccuRate Technology (U.S. patent US08471815) for 16-bit resolution (i.e. 16000 x 16000 values) – the same pinpoint accuracy delivered by the extremely high-end HOTAS Warthog joystick, allowing gamers to engage their enemies with surgical precision. The helical spring (0.1” / 2.8 mm in diameter) inside |
Ambidextrous designThe joystick’s unique ambidextrous design can be easily switched between right-handed and left-handed use. Its twisting handle controls the rudder by default, but can also be locked in place. Piloting with a joystick in each hand is now possible in all games compatible with two joysticks. |
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Thrustmaster advanced flying ecosystemThese products are part of a range of flight simulation peripherals that can be used in conjunction with one another: a complete ecosystem featuring the FCS flight stick, TWCS throttle, TFRP rudder pedals* and MFD* (Multi-Functional Display) cockpit panels. These elements are also compatible with the T.A.R.G.E.T advanced programming software. |
T.A.R.G.E.T advanced programming software** on PC: program up to 256 buttons in the flying ecosystemThrustmaster Advanced pRogramming Graphical EdiTor software: combine with other Thrustmaster devices (so that they are recognized as a single USB device), and load or create specific mapping profiles for each game. Tailor your own profiles to enhance most Thrustmaster flight controllers, and share them with the Thrustmaster community |
Ergonomic design for optimum comfort and precisionThanks to its design and ergonomics, the T.16000M FSC provides players with multiple recognizable features, allowing them to become more effective and accurate when in flight. This enhanced access to flight controls proves even more essential when players are fully immersed in the exceptional flight experience delivered by VR-compatible games. |
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Reviewed in the United States on April 26, 2017
For the price, I find it is a very nice combination for playing Elite: Dangerous in VR. I changed a few of the default T.A.R.G.E.T. mappings for elite to make it more suited to VR.The stick is incredible sensitive, and returns to center well. I would call it a medium spring weight.I also use the TFRP flight pedals. Removing the hand wrest makes the stick more comfortable for a person with large hands like me. I'm not much of a reviewer, but I like this stick. With the price/performance I love this stick.UPDATE: This stick has gotten some heavy use and I'm happy to report it still functions perfectly. I did use some NyoGel 767a to get it nice and lubed, but it wasn't required, I jest like the feel better. They are mounted to a plank with a 60% keyboard between them that I clamp to my desk to play Elite.
Reviewed in the United States on April 26, 2017
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