Ultimate comics always does a great job of rooting its fiction in truth and more importantly current events. The title is fairly self explanatory. I thought it was goign to be the start of ultimate civil war and I was mistaken and quite surprised.
This is NOT an Ultimate Marvel Civil War!!!
This is a must have for any MARVEL fan.
PS Loose the milk carton shoulder pads on Cap it looks weak and out of place in a setting full of sleek Tony Stark future-tech and Crysis/Mass Effect power suits.
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Washington lies in ruins. The president is dead. Sentinels rule the Southwest. But in America's darkest hour, its ultimate hero returns to lead its people back toward the light! Captain America answers his country's call to become its new president! But while Steve Rogers battles to reunite America, another leader embraces her destiny to defeat the Sentinels and save her own kind: Kitty Pryde! And with the nation crying out for heroes, Miles Morales is determined to prove he has what it takes to join the Ultimates!
COLLECTING: Ultimate Comics X-Men 13-18, Ultimate Comics Ultimates 13-18, Ultimate Comics Spider-Man 13-18
COLLECTING: Ultimate Comics X-Men 13-18, Ultimate Comics Ultimates 13-18, Ultimate Comics Spider-Man 13-18
- Print length408 pages
- LanguageEnglish
- PublisherMarvel
- Publication dateOctober 15, 2013
- Grade level8 and up
- Dimensions6.6 x 0.8 x 10.1 inches
- ISBN-100785184163
- ISBN-13978-0785184164
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Reviewed in the United States on March 9, 2013
Reviewed in the United States on March 9, 2013
I don't know what some of the other reviewers are complaining about. This book would be a mess if they'd assembled the issues chronologically -- this "event" barely qualifies as an event and has minimal crossover between the titles; this hardcover is, basically, the next story in each of the three core Ultimate Comics titles. It collects:
- The Ultimates #13-18, picking up after Hickman's The Ultimates Vol. 2 and leading into Humphries' The Ultimates Vol. 1; while Humphries is not as good as Hickman was, neither does he embarrass himself with this story of The Ultimates dealing with a nation divided.
- X-Men #13-18, picking up after Spencer's X-Men Vol. 2 and leading into Wood's X-Men Vol. 1. This is the highlight of this collection; Wood manages to give the story a focus that Spencer never quite managed and finally begins to deliver on the promise of this title.
- Spider-Man #13-18, which overlaps with Bendis' Spider-Man Vol. 3, and which is basically Bendis continuing to do his thing with Spider-Man.
Honestly there's little enough overlap between the three stories here that I'd have preferred each of them be released in TPB separately instead of collected here, as each is more a part of its own title's ongoing story than it is a contributor to a bigger picture event. Or, better yet, it would have been nice if they had put more effort into making each of these stories feel like a part of something bigger. When the cataclysmic events in one of the titles barely has any impact on another taking place not too far away, it's hard to get a grip on the magnitude of the disaster our heroes are facing.
I'm not sure this is really a four-star collection, maybe three and a half, but it's certainly a decent continuation of what's been going on since the latest Ultimate Comics revamp and not nearly as hindered by its presentations as some of the other reviews indicate.
If you're really that worried about chronological story flow but don't want to be hopping around non-stop, here's a basic reading order: The Ultimates #13-15 (which sets the stage for all that's going on), then the whole X-Men story (a bunch of it takes place before the Ultimates issues but plotwise there's very little overlap so it doesn't matter much), then Spider-Man #13-16, then Ultimates #16. Finally, Spider-Man #17-18 and Ultimates #17-18 do overlap, featuring the same conflict, but the focus is so different and the writers didn't do any overt crossing over so it really doesn't matter which order you read those issues in.
- The Ultimates #13-18, picking up after Hickman's The Ultimates Vol. 2 and leading into Humphries' The Ultimates Vol. 1; while Humphries is not as good as Hickman was, neither does he embarrass himself with this story of The Ultimates dealing with a nation divided.
- X-Men #13-18, picking up after Spencer's X-Men Vol. 2 and leading into Wood's X-Men Vol. 1. This is the highlight of this collection; Wood manages to give the story a focus that Spencer never quite managed and finally begins to deliver on the promise of this title.
- Spider-Man #13-18, which overlaps with Bendis' Spider-Man Vol. 3, and which is basically Bendis continuing to do his thing with Spider-Man.
Honestly there's little enough overlap between the three stories here that I'd have preferred each of them be released in TPB separately instead of collected here, as each is more a part of its own title's ongoing story than it is a contributor to a bigger picture event. Or, better yet, it would have been nice if they had put more effort into making each of these stories feel like a part of something bigger. When the cataclysmic events in one of the titles barely has any impact on another taking place not too far away, it's hard to get a grip on the magnitude of the disaster our heroes are facing.
I'm not sure this is really a four-star collection, maybe three and a half, but it's certainly a decent continuation of what's been going on since the latest Ultimate Comics revamp and not nearly as hindered by its presentations as some of the other reviews indicate.
If you're really that worried about chronological story flow but don't want to be hopping around non-stop, here's a basic reading order: The Ultimates #13-15 (which sets the stage for all that's going on), then the whole X-Men story (a bunch of it takes place before the Ultimates issues but plotwise there's very little overlap so it doesn't matter much), then Spider-Man #13-16, then Ultimates #16. Finally, Spider-Man #17-18 and Ultimates #17-18 do overlap, featuring the same conflict, but the focus is so different and the writers didn't do any overt crossing over so it really doesn't matter which order you read those issues in.
Reviewed in the United States on February 19, 2015
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Reviewed in the United States on March 20, 2013
I'm so glad the writers for the Ultimate Universe keep coming up with original ideas and unique plots to the mainstream Marvel Universe.
Reviewed in the United States on February 21, 2016
Great product...Highly recommended seller...A+++
Reviewed in the United States on September 4, 2019
Divided We Fall, United We Stand is a crossover that took place in the third relaunch of the Ultimate Universe Marvel Comics line. In the story the heroes fight to save their U.S. from falling apart into Civil War. The event took place in Ultimate Comics Ultimates, Ultimate Comics X-Men, and Ultimate Comics Spider-Man. For this review I will review each series' arc individually then average them for the total rating.
Ultimate Comics Ultimates (2011) (#13-18)
This story is a rather cynical look at the world but it does fit with the tone Mark Millar established in the original series. It puts most people in a bad light but there is hope to be found. Captain America is the star, showing the people that the heroes have not abandoned them. Jonathan Hickman put all these pieces in place and Sam Humphries executes the story perfectly. Both Luke Ross and Billy Tan deliver some solid artwork.
4/5
Ultimate Comics X-Men (2011) (#13-18)
Brian Wood's X-Men are not what I was hoping for. It's definitely trying to sound important and starts fine. As the series goes on though I feel it tries too much to make a narrative of everyone being an enemy to mutants. The ending is also rushed after a lengthy amount of build-up. Paco Medina is a fantastic artist though whose work feels vibrant.
3/5
Ultimate Comics Spider-Man (2011) (#13-18)
Brian Bendis uses this story in the perfect way. His character Miles Morales was fairly new at this point and there was no better way than this story to propel him into the big leagues. The story also does great exploring the impact of Washington DC's destruction on the still safe parts of the Union. David Marquez is one of the best artists around and substitute artist Pepe Larraz does good as well.
4/5
The Ultimate Marvel Universe began in the early 2000's as a reboot of the current universe which would give writers the chance to tell modernized stories with the publisher's most popular characters.
The line had its high points and low points but I and many fans loved it. This event was far down that line but it feels like it honors that legacy. One bit of interest about the volume is that there is an error on the back cover. This collection does actually contain Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #18.
4/5
Ultimate Comics Ultimates (2011) (#13-18)
This story is a rather cynical look at the world but it does fit with the tone Mark Millar established in the original series. It puts most people in a bad light but there is hope to be found. Captain America is the star, showing the people that the heroes have not abandoned them. Jonathan Hickman put all these pieces in place and Sam Humphries executes the story perfectly. Both Luke Ross and Billy Tan deliver some solid artwork.
4/5
Ultimate Comics X-Men (2011) (#13-18)
Brian Wood's X-Men are not what I was hoping for. It's definitely trying to sound important and starts fine. As the series goes on though I feel it tries too much to make a narrative of everyone being an enemy to mutants. The ending is also rushed after a lengthy amount of build-up. Paco Medina is a fantastic artist though whose work feels vibrant.
3/5
Ultimate Comics Spider-Man (2011) (#13-18)
Brian Bendis uses this story in the perfect way. His character Miles Morales was fairly new at this point and there was no better way than this story to propel him into the big leagues. The story also does great exploring the impact of Washington DC's destruction on the still safe parts of the Union. David Marquez is one of the best artists around and substitute artist Pepe Larraz does good as well.
4/5
The Ultimate Marvel Universe began in the early 2000's as a reboot of the current universe which would give writers the chance to tell modernized stories with the publisher's most popular characters.
The line had its high points and low points but I and many fans loved it. This event was far down that line but it feels like it honors that legacy. One bit of interest about the volume is that there is an error on the back cover. This collection does actually contain Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #18.
4/5
Reviewed in the United States on June 16, 2015
Very good
Reviewed in the United States on January 29, 2015
I would have enjoyed the book and story more if the three titles were placed in the book in sequence instead of by title. It was difficult to follow sometimes and the suspense was ruined on occasion.
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Scott Flower
4.0 out of 5 stars
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Reviewed in Canada on May 14, 2013
I don't even know where to begin. There is a fantastic story in here(Spider-Man) and then there's a good one(Ultimates) and then an ok one(X-Men). Mostly this runs through three themes: AMERICAAA!!! RACISM!!! and YAY it's Spider-Man!. The United States is breaking apart and states are declaring independence after what's happened during Jonathon Hickman's run and it's up to The Ultimates to put the country back together. This story was a good read and the art varied from really good to crap depending on the issue. Meanwhile the X-Men are busy in the south trying to rescue all the mutants imprisoned in the concentration camps while the sentinels are running wild killing every mutant can they find. This story was decent but the ending was really anti-climatic and as usual with X-Men titles it's full of unnecessary racism. Sadly this is the end of Paco Medina's art for the series but he leaves with a bang. Spider-Man is dealing with how the country is falling apart in New York and wants to help The Ultimates, for a better look on this story read my review for the third Ultimate Comics Spider-Man book Ultimate Comics Spider-Man by Brian Michael Bendis - Volume 3. All three series bring lasting changes to the Ultimate universe that are pretty cool and will want you reading more. The format of the book however should have been done better. Each series is separated so you're getting The Ultimates 13-18 then X-Men 13-18 then Spider-Man 13-18 instead of having them like all 13's, then all 14's, then all 15's, etc. But it doesn't throw the story out of order since each story is separate anyway, it just give's some slight spoilers about what's going on in the other two titles. Overall this is a good book to add to your Ultimate Collection but with a mixture of awesome with meh I just don't know what score to give it.
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2.0 out of 5 stars
Inane
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on May 11, 2016
This is a really poor collection that perfectly encapsulates why the Ultimate Universe became pointless. Mark Millar and Bryan Hitch kickstarted the Ultimates with a brilliant reinterpretation and update of the Avengers. Captain America, arguably the less complex of the 'big three' was made far more interesting as a patriot with a slightly skewed morality. After some middling and dire Loeb instalments, Jonathan Hickman gave us a a revitalised, terrifying future. And now this. In places, the writing's so bad I though I'd missed something. "President Cap"? Really? It's not that the concept is unfeasible, it's the childishly idiotic way it's realised. The Ultimates was supposed to require a reasonably mature, sophisticated readership. Here it's been reduced to kindergarten level. Even the repeated, first page graphic (a la Hickman) is rubbish. The art does not come anywhere near the level of Hitch or similar. And there's the missing issues and incorrect reading order. Marvel are becoming increasingly adept at simply retelling stories from different perspectives and bunging it together as a 'collection' around an 'event'. This book is for completists only.
Huw
2.0 out of 5 stars
A big step backwards
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on February 28, 2013
Jonathan Hickman had taken the Ultimates back to the heights of the Millar days. There were a number of new and exciting developments in the Ultimate universe and I was looking forward to finding out how the various plot lines and characters would be developed. All Hickman's work has been wasted. The Ultimates section of his book is very poor. The art is mediocre at best, particularly the faces of the characters. There is no characterisation. The dialogue is Jeph Loeb style awful.
The X men and Spider-Man parts are better, but not by a big enough margin to make up for how bad the Ultimates section is. I would buy Tpbs of these two as separates instead of investing in this HC. I think Marvel knew that they had a turkey on their hands with the Ultimates by Sam Humphries and packaged his effort together with the other books as the only way to shift a few more units.
The X men and Spider-Man parts are better, but not by a big enough margin to make up for how bad the Ultimates section is. I would buy Tpbs of these two as separates instead of investing in this HC. I think Marvel knew that they had a turkey on their hands with the Ultimates by Sam Humphries and packaged his effort together with the other books as the only way to shift a few more units.
JoseCarmonaLH
3.0 out of 5 stars
Ultimates
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on June 6, 2013
this is not the best Ultimates Saga, but it's easy to read and the art and story is pretty nice.





