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Ultimate Proof of Creation Paperback – May 29, 2009
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"You will never think the same way again after reading this masterful book - and you will never dialogue with non-believers in the same way. You will gain a confidence in your faith that you probably have never experienced, and you will become much more emboldened in your Christian faith." --Ken Ham, President/CEO of Answers in Genesis, Creation Museum, Ark Encounter
About the Author
Dr. Jason Lisle is the Director of Research and a featured speaker and writer for the Institute for Creation Research. He previously served as the Planetarium Director for the Creation Museum in KY. Dr. Lisle has also authored a number of books which include: Taking Back Astronomy, The Ultimate Proof of Creation, Old-Earth Creationism on Trial, and The Stargazer's Guide to the Night Sky.
Dr. Jason Lisle holds bachelor of science degrees in physics and astronomy from Ohio Wesleyan University, as well as a master's and PhD in Astro-physics from the University of Colorado in Boulder. As a creation scientist Dr. Lisle effectively communicates a broad range of topics from in-depth presentations of distant starlight, Einstein's relativity, and problems with the big bang to topics from astronomy and general science to apologetics and dinosaurs.
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I'm am a deep thinker, and I don't accept something simply because a teacher, professor, or someone else with a degree tells me it is so. I grew up in church, knew the Christian side of things, and chose to reject that faith as a young adult. Now I have lived both sides of the fence and since returned to the faith, albeit with a far different perspective.
That being said, I found this book intriguing. Some reviewers say that this book has terribly flawed reasoning. Au contraire. To my chagrin, I found the logic within to be rather solid. After reading this book, I played devil's advocate with some of my friends, taking the author's side for the moment, trying to get feedback from my peers. We were all pretty vicious about it, because I didn't like this book's arguments any more than they did. As an academic and all-around deep thinker with a knack for arguing, I'm pretty skilled at supporting whatever it is I wish to support. But while using his basis for logic and reasoning, my friends could not maintain a logically consistent rebuttal to any of the points made. They could make rebuttals, but there was always one frustratingly persistent flaw or inconsistency in the rebuttals we came up with.
Every belief system is built upon something that we trust is true, even without proof: an axiom, a foundation of sorts. Both sides of the debate have their own respective axioms, this cannot be denied. The only way we could rebut any of the arguments was if we moved his arguments away from his foundational belief (axiom), at which point we could easily strike them down, just like others attempt to do in their reviews here. But when we moved his arguments away from his foundation, we essentially set up a straw man, rather than fighting his real argument as-is. We simply had a semblance of his real argument, divorced from his foundation, which was then silly and easy to refute. But defeating a straw man is really no victory at all, and we weren't satisfied. Some people are happy to beat up a straw man and think they have victory, but I'm not that vain. I'm not happy unless the victory is real.
When it comes down to it, I could not escape the fact that his logical arguments (when built upon his axiom) are sound and annoyingly hard to overcome. Divorce it from his foundation, and the logic is truly flawed and easy to knock over, just like other reviewers have done here (in fact, the author even tells us that this would be the case); but if you divorce it from his foundation, then you're not really challenging his real argument anymore, just your own modified version of his argument (aka: a straw man).
I have since returned to the faith and started challenging others one-on-one to refute the arguments in this book, still looking for a solid refutation. I say one-on-one, because I want to make sure they leave his arguments intact rather than modifying them for ease just like I tried to do (and like reviewers here are doing). All the way up to doctorate students that I've sparred with, no one else has been able to remain consistent in their logic, and one frustrated biology student finally resorted to telling me that even the laws of logic change. Hmmm.
I do not fully support/like the ministry behind it or the author for that matter. But I don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. So like I said, I at least found this book intriguing.
Since the mid 19th century, the practice of science, with its methodological naturalism has brought forth findings that don't comport with views of people of faith (in the context of the present work, reformed and fundamental Christianity). Dr. Lisle champions the cause of Young Earth Creation.
What is to be done in the face of all this information from the scientific community? To accept what science is saying, is to question the authority of scripture (this is not necessarily a problem everyone). To accept the young earth model means admitting to the fact that our world is not what it plainly appears to be.
Presuppositionalism is a contrived paradigm, an assertion rather than an argument. It wars against normal reality by claiming victory by default. By their own admission, the purpose of presuppositionalism is to 'shut mouths'. The following are some of its statements:
Reality is not intelligible to man and his unaided reason.
Reality cannot be understood correctly on its own terms because man cannot reason autonomously.
One must be omniscient to know anything. You don't know your sensory and cognitive faculties are reliable. You cannot prove the validity of logic or mathematics without appealing to each on its own merit. You can't prove that what you think you know is true in all space and time. You have no claim to knowledge.
In our reality, order is imposed realtime from outside of our reality by a transcendent agent (the God of the Christian bible). Absent that agent, order would not exist. The universe is not self ordered. Absent order, intelligibility is impossible.
This is what they refer to as the precondition of intelligibility.
The unbeliever steals Capitol from Christian theism if they claim to understand anything.
"I understand, therefore God exists."
Since most of us are not omniscient, the only way for me to understand anything correctly is to have someone who is omniscient reveal truth to me.
The bible is that revelation. It is the absolute standard against which all truth claims are judged.
This is how Dr. Lisle, and other pre suppers deal with science.
I defer now to the reader to examine the book and render their own appraisal.
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