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Waco Paperback – January 2, 2018
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Twenty-five years ago, the FBI staged a deadly raid on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco. Texas. David Thibodeau survived to tell the story.
When he first met the man who called himself David Koresh, David Thibodeau was a drummer in a local a rock band. Though he had never been religious in the slightest, Thibodeau gradually became a follower and moved to the Branch Davidian compound in Waco. He remained there until April 19, 1993, when the compound was stormed and burned to the ground after a 51-day standoff with government authorities.
In this compelling account -- now with an updated epilogue that revisits remaining survivors--Thibodeau explores why so many people came to believe that Koresh was divinely inspired. We meet the men, women, and children of Mt. Carmel. We get inside the day-to-day life of the community. We also understand Thibodeau's brutally honest assessment of the United States government's actions. The result is a memoir that reads like a thriller, with each page taking us closer to the eventual inferno.
- Print length408 pages
- LanguageEnglish
- PublisherGrand Central Publishing
- Publication dateJanuary 2, 2018
- Dimensions1.34 x 6.02 x 8.9 inches
- ISBN-101602865736
- ISBN-13978-1602865730
- Lexile measure1160L
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―Howard Zinn
"This book gives a rare glimpse of life at Mount Carmel and an account of how that attack contrasts with the 'official' government version. With the renewed interest in this siege, this book is recommended for public libraries."
―School Library Journal
"This narrative defies many of our media-mediated preconceptions of Koresh's followers."
―Booklist
"Thibodeau, one of only four Branch Davidians to live through the Waco disaster and not be sentenced to jail, has produced a surprisingly balanced and honest account of his time as a Branch Davidian. Neither sensationalist nor defensive, this will make satisfying reading for anyone interested in the April 1993 tragedy."
―Kirkus Review
"A disquieting portrait of a religious community and its enigmatic leader."
―Kirkus Reviews
"Honest... [about] whether the excessive force used by our government against American citizens was really necessary."―Lincoln Star Journal
About the Author
Coauthor Leon Whiteson was a Zimbabwean architect-turned-critic and novelist. He died in 2013 at age 82. Whiteson is survived by his wife -- author Aviva Layton -- who has written the updated epilogue with David Thibodeau for this new edition.
Aviva Layton earned a BA from Sydney University, an MA from University of Montreal, and a PhD from York University, Toronto. She is the author of a novel, a biography, and several award-winning children's books, and is now a full-time literary editor.
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- Publisher : Grand Central Publishing
- Publication date : January 2, 2018
- Edition : Illustrated
- Language : English
- Print length : 408 pages
- ISBN-10 : 1602865736
- ISBN-13 : 978-1602865730
- Item Weight : 14.4 ounces
- Dimensions : 1.34 x 6.02 x 8.9 inches
- Lexile measure : 1160L
- Best Sellers Rank: #167,959 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
- #68 in Law Enforcement Biographies
- #76 in Religious Cults (Books)
- #1,429 in U.S. State & Local History
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Customers find the book riveting and well-written, with one review noting it's written in a conversational tone. Moreover, the story is informative, with one customer highlighting its objectivity, and customers appreciate the thorough research. Additionally, the Netflix series based on the book receives positive feedback, and customers value its balanced approach. However, the book's length receives mixed reactions, with one customer finding it a bit longwinded.
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"Well researched, vulnerable account from a survivor of trauma. I thought it seemed drawn out in certain parts where it didn’t need to be" Read more
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- Reviewed in the United States on February 3, 2009Format: HardcoverVerified PurchaseWell, to begin I would like to tell that I live in Brazil, and in the time of those events I watched the building in fire, in TV, and thought "Hell, those crazy policemen are lying to your nayve people, telling to everyone that those group killed themselves!". It was very obvious, but why I though so? Well, who lives in another countries have a very different idea about "America" than american people can think.Anyway, fire is a BAD BAD BAD idea to suicide.
During all these years I always wanted to know about those events in Waco, but unhapilly I was not able to remember the name of city, or cult, or leader.I had only that building in fire in my mind. Recently, looking for that tragedy with Jim Jones ( http://www.amazon.com/Jonestown-Life-Death-Peoples-Temple/dp/B000MTFFUO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1233691722&sr=1-1 )the amazon system suggested me the DVD "Waco: Rules of engagement" and when I see the cover I remembered what I watched in TV in 1993. After watch the DVD I bought the book, because it was unbelievable, I wanted to know more.
Well, this is a wonderfull book, one of that rare historicall situations in which you can know what a involved person ( a live person) can tell. He was very honest in your relate, never mixing opinion nd facts. He tell about he knows, and when he don't know ( certain problematic points) he addmits it, don't creates half truths to fix crack in th problematic matters. But what is the most important: you can feel his sincerity. It seems that a lot of people have problems to identify the truth when they read it or listen it, so, always there will be people roaring: "They deserve this, they are crazy!", people that fear think by themselves, different of their family, their neighbors, of the press, of the "official truth". I don't sorry for them, because they are responsible to this world be as it is. But unhapilly, they are the majority in any country, and they creates great problems to those, like Thibodeau, wants to show the truth to whom want to know it.
I admire much the courage of this man, and when we read his book we perceive that it was not easy to live this, to think about, to try understand, to return to his family and continue trying to clear the things. It is much more easy to try forget all and to live his live, wanting to be forgot too. But when the people do so, the official truth can prevail, as happened in Brazil with a old cult, in the end of Century XIX. The members of the cult bought wood to build a church and pay it before received. When they try to receive that wood the owner did'nt delivered it. The members took them by force, the police was warned and a war begun. The press announced that those men were "revolutionary", against the new government, the recent republican.
But they never were revolutionary, they were only a religious cult waiting the end of the days. When the journalist send his journals, they were censored, the people never read them, because the press and the governement wanted the people think that those people were revolutionary, so they can be smashed and count as a sound victory to the "new order". That journalist registered all, returned to home and publish all truth about that official lie, but he must to pay the publishing, because nobody wanted to help to speak against the governement ( Isn't a little familiar???). Well, that book is maybe the greatest book of brazilian literature, maybe one of the greatest of the world literature. BUT EVEN SO, THE STUDENTS STILL LEARN ONLY THE OFFICIAL LIE IN THE SCHOOL!!!!! ONLY IN THE UNIVERSITY THEY KNOW ABOUT THIS LIE:
http://www.amazon.com/Rebellion-Backlands-Phoenix-Books-Euclides/dp/0226124444/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233688683&sr=8-1
Thibodeau took the chance to tell the truth to the world while he still has hope to watch your country become better, and if this one day will happen he can be proud because he helped it, exposing its lies. If he only decided forget about all, maybe his grandsons ( os even sons) can face the same kind of fate. We can not change the world, but we can do our part when we are called to do it, and David Thibodeau did his part in a amazing way.
Read it, think about, face the facts, and don't die without to watch "Waco: Rules of engagement":
http://www.amazon.com/Waco-Rules-Engagement-Dan-Gifford/dp/B0000DIJOO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1233691510&sr=8-1
- Reviewed in the United States on September 3, 1999Format: HardcoverVerified PurchaseDavid Thibodeau's mother was the leader of what they called the hostage families during the Waco siege and it is one of the fortunate things that happened that her son siurvived the fire. This book apparently goes into what life was really like at Waco, just how bad and just how good.
Although not mentioned by Kirkus or the author for some reason, perhaps a fear of controversy I think this book would have to talk about the fire and the events that ended the compound at Waco, and probably deal with some of the not so little lies said during and after the siege, like the claim that it was called Ranch Apocalypse.
David Thibodeau has said it is not true that any shots were fired from inside the compound on April 19. He was interviewed a few times during the Congressional hearings. I don't know how much of what he knows got into this book, but it is something I am going to get.
(The story of the events of the siege has been made very complicated, of course, so to really deal with it, rebuttig all the things said that are wrong and rebutting the attempted rebuttals of the rebutalls would be very long.)
By way of background, explaining where I am coming from:
I have a personal opinion about the fire, which is that is was done to protect J. William Buford head of the bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Fire- arms in Little Rock who had murdered three agents under his command. they were not former Clinton boodyguard, Bill Clinton himself was responsible for starting that story by claiming in a speech to Treasury department employees in March 1993 that they had been assigned to his security something most likely untrue and if true very incidental. His motive may have been to disguise the reason for their murder. Clinton sent Roger Altman to personally speak to Buford after the raid - this was ovrheard by a Wall Street journal reporter present in the White House to do a story about a week in the President's life. (the story was in the March 9, 1993 Wall Street Journal - and it is the only place this connection was mentioned in all the news coverage about Waco. It is mentioned in Carol Moore's book, because I wrote her and told her about it.
After the fire the place of the death of the three agents, originally placed in a room on the second floor (see March 17, 1993 newsweek diagram) was moved outside, and Buford himself was moved into the room into which he shot. This would probably
not have been posisble without the destruction of the building and the deaths of so many of the people in it and their deaths also disguised how the shooting began on Feb. 28.
I think the reason for Buford machine-gunning three of the men under his command was that he knew the warrant, which he had helped prepare, was not good and the intention from the start was to have a shootout. In order to make that shootout look justified or necessary Buford arranged to kill three men under his command and blame their deaths on koresh (prior approval by Clinton is possible too - or it may be the McArthur murder in 1982 (see the book Widow's Web) that may have been reason Clinton arranged tp protect him. The timing of the planning of the raid followed Clinton's eelection prospects: starting in earnest in June 1992, right after he won the Californoa primarty, slowing down in July, starting again right after the November election - and on january 1 and 3 1993 Buford got personally involved, putting the sex allegations into the warrant, although they were legally irrelevant to the matter at hand, which was guns.
In any case, the plan to kill three agents and have their deaths blamed on Koresh, relying on the confusion to hide the true cause, fell apart because Koresh had access to a cellular phone and a second phone billed to a law firm in Waco also still worked and also maybe because the shooting got videotaped by TV station KWTX-TV , Channel 10 in Waco. There was a BIG problem for Buford now.
It took seven weeks for Clinton to finally save Buford's skin.
On April 19 there was a plan on paper with a loophole authorizing the real plan to be implemented.
It was vital it include tear gas and that was why FBOI Director Sessions's plan for water cannon had to be argued down so hard. The fire was caused by the injection of CS tear gas near 12 P.M. Before that they used other tear gas.
There ought to be things in this book to bear out or dispute many theories about Waco, and the more you know the more you will be able to use this.
- Reviewed in the United States on June 5, 2025Format: KindleVerified PurchaseI remember watching this on TV back then when it was happening, always had a curiosity about it. Glad I read Mr. Thibodeau's book, very compelling. Thank you
- Reviewed in the United States on April 11, 2025Format: HardcoverVerified PurchaseA great book and it arrived in perfect condition!
- Reviewed in the United States on May 29, 2023Format: KindleVerified PurchaseThe Waco tragedy occurred when I was in college. As a young man, I didn’t have much more understanding of the events than the media provided me.
In years since, I have been taught scripture and, by God’s favor, have taught the same. It is through this lens that I digested this book. It saddens me that God’s word is so perverted and taken out of context by men such as David Karesh. It is not that such evil men as Karesh exist that saddens me, but that there are so many people with no basis in the truth of God’s word and the saving power of the gospel. That brings me to tears. The Branch Dividians, good hearted, from what I could tell, were ripped off by a snake oil salesmen (pun intended). In being mislead by a perversion of scripture, they became less than innocent of the polygamy and child rape that their leader mandated and normalized. Sin spreads a wide net.
As to the gross government overreach that lead to the carnage and loss of innocent lives (the children) I should say they our overlords should be ashamed. But I won’t, because they aren’t. Looking at the events of Waco with 30 years of hindsight, the narrative spin and the over eager media ready to spring it on the world sound all to familiar,
- Reviewed in the United States on February 24, 2021Format: KindleVerified PurchaseWell researched, vulnerable account from a survivor of trauma. I thought it seemed drawn out in certain parts where it didn’t need to be
Top reviews from other countries
Bruno AndreoniReviewed in Brazil on September 17, 20234.0 out of 5 stars Not entirely convincing
The book shows the grossness and evil doing of the authorities. But It also shows how little Koresh cared for his followers' lives. Very enlightening book.
JulieReviewed in the United Kingdom on May 4, 20215.0 out of 5 stars A very different view.
A tough, hard hitting realisation of a perversion of the truth by the American authorities at the time, although the question of David Kiresh sexual predilection fir minors makes me feel ill having teenage daughters. A very good read whether you've seen the TV series or not.
H.JägerReviewed in Germany on December 21, 20195.0 out of 5 stars Great story from an inside source.
Format: PaperbackVerified PurchaseGreat book. It’s nice to hear the other side of the tragedy from someone inside the compound.
Made me look at this event through a different lense.
KNReviewed in Australia on February 24, 20234.0 out of 5 stars Good read
Interesting version from someone on the inside.
LoriReviewed in Canada on October 28, 20235.0 out of 5 stars I will NEVER visit Texas
Format: PaperbackVerified PurchaseI watched the mini series, Waco, and was appalled. After this I decided to read David's book (had I known about it I probably would have read the book first). I think he gives an honest first hand account of the tragic events that befell this peaceful community. David mentioned the documentary 'Waco: The rules of engagement' being the most accurate film he had seen to date. I watched this film and am even more appalled. I think i will read Gary Noesner's book next. I continually watch movies and read books where senior management doesn't listen to their 'minions' and tragedy occurs. EG... watch 'A confession'. This situation has also happened in my life. Governments... they will do anything to cover their...










