Closer to "for non-fans only"...
The opinions of this album tend to fall into one of two camps:
1) Die-hard Pogues fans who are fairly offended by the band having booted out Shane MacGowan, keeping the band name in the absence of its most recognizable figure, and furthermore disgracing the band's name by by releasing an album that was more accessible and pop-oriented than prior Pogues albums.
2) People enjoy the music, which they find catchy and diverse.
I place myself firmly in the latter group. I gotta wonder if this album would have gone over so badly with many Pogues fans had it been released under a different band name, such as "Spider and the Somethingorothers".
"Real" Pogues or not, this album just has some wonderful songs, in a variety of different musical styles (almost every song stylistically different from each other), from infectious folk-pop ("Sitting On Top of the World") to a bouncy, Eastern-European sound that prefigured Gogol Bordello ("Drunken Boat"), some pleasant ballads, their almost obligatory middle-eastern influenced tune (the superb "Girl from the Wadi Hammamat"), even Americana ("My Baby's Gone," which has energy galore, and probably the worst American accent I've ever heard on a recording).
So, while I could understand why some fans might take offense to this being released as a Pogues album, the music stands up quite well on its own merits. Pop in this disc and enjoy Spider and the Somethingorothers!
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Track Listings
| 1 | Tuesday Morning |
| 2 | Smell Of Petroleum |
| 3 | Haunting |
| 4 | Once Upon A Time |
| 5 | Sitting On Top Of The World |
| 6 | Drunken Boat |
| 7 | Big City |
| 8 | Girl From The Wadi Hammamat |
| 9 | Modern World |
| 10 | Pachinko |
| 11 | My Baby's Gone |
| 12 | Small Hours |
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Pogues ~ Waiting For Herb
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- Product Dimensions : 5.5 x 4.94 x 0.45 inches; 4 Ounces
- Manufacturer : Chameleon / Wea
- Original Release Date : 1993
- Date First Available : December 8, 2006
- Label : Chameleon / Wea
- ASIN : B000001A3T
- Number of discs : 1
- Best Sellers Rank: #393,494 in CDs & Vinyl (See Top 100 in CDs & Vinyl)
- #731 in British Folk
- #7,052 in Folk Rock (CDs & Vinyl)
- #32,593 in Alternative Rock (CDs & Vinyl)
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Reviewed in the United States on January 15, 2018
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Reviewed in the United States on July 29, 1998
When Shane McGowan left the Pogues, he took the bite out of them. What's left is, oddly, the same band singing similar songs with better diction. But the saliva-spitting fury that was at its core is gone.
Reviewed in the United States on December 14, 2012
Like The Kinks without Ray
Like Queen without Freddie
Like The Stones without Mick
Like The Pogues without Shane, this album should have been an absolute car-wreck, but remarkably instead, what you are presented with is a confident, self-assured, highly enjoyable record.
Joe Strummers fingerprint are all over the album (he replaced Shane on their previous tour), & there is defiantly a much more punk feel to the music.
Not as good as The Pogues first three records, "Red Roses..", "Rum, Sodom.." & "If I should Fall..", but still worthy addition to The Pogues canon.
Like Queen without Freddie
Like The Stones without Mick
Like The Pogues without Shane, this album should have been an absolute car-wreck, but remarkably instead, what you are presented with is a confident, self-assured, highly enjoyable record.
Joe Strummers fingerprint are all over the album (he replaced Shane on their previous tour), & there is defiantly a much more punk feel to the music.
Not as good as The Pogues first three records, "Red Roses..", "Rum, Sodom.." & "If I should Fall..", but still worthy addition to The Pogues canon.
Reviewed in the United States on June 21, 2005
Waiting for Herb (1993) was The Pogues first album without their drunken leader Shane MacGowan. Troubles with his rampant alcohol problem caused a deep rift within the band and it spread thorugh the members like wild fire. Several of them developed problems of their own and quickly moved to oust Shane from the band. Well the remaining Pogues staggered into the studio to record Waiting for Herb.
Spider replaces Shane and auxilary Pogue Joe Strummer on lead vocals. His song Tuesday Morning became a minor hit for the band. Finer and Woods picked up the bulk of the song writing duties. The tracks that appeared on the album are pretty good, but they lack the fire that drove the
previous albums. The other tracks are good (Smell of Petroleum, Once Upon a Time, The Haunting, Big City, Modern World). I have no idea why people have slagged this disc. The follow up I can understand.
Shane rejoined the band in late 1995. This was too much for Phillip Chevron, James Fernaly and Terry Woods. They quit the band and never returned. After the tour was over Shane quit the band (this time for good). The band was down to four (Spider Stacy, Andrew Ranken, Jem Finer and Darryl Hunt) and they picked up four new members and continued the Pogues.
The CD comes with a nice booklet with photos of the band members and a lyrics for the album's tracks.
Recommended for Pogues fans.
Spider replaces Shane and auxilary Pogue Joe Strummer on lead vocals. His song Tuesday Morning became a minor hit for the band. Finer and Woods picked up the bulk of the song writing duties. The tracks that appeared on the album are pretty good, but they lack the fire that drove the
previous albums. The other tracks are good (Smell of Petroleum, Once Upon a Time, The Haunting, Big City, Modern World). I have no idea why people have slagged this disc. The follow up I can understand.
Shane rejoined the band in late 1995. This was too much for Phillip Chevron, James Fernaly and Terry Woods. They quit the band and never returned. After the tour was over Shane quit the band (this time for good). The band was down to four (Spider Stacy, Andrew Ranken, Jem Finer and Darryl Hunt) and they picked up four new members and continued the Pogues.
The CD comes with a nice booklet with photos of the band members and a lyrics for the album's tracks.
Recommended for Pogues fans.
Reviewed in the United States on January 5, 2013
Ok, this isn't the Pogues of old. It's their sixth album, and Shane MacGowan isn't on it. Get over it. The last couple of Pogues albums WITH HIM weren't that great...he mumbled his way through the lyrics and that got old pretty fast, I think. He was such a hindrance and nuisance, being drunk all the time and not showing up for gigs, walking off stage in the middle of shows, that the band finally canned his ass. They moved on.
This album features their biggest hit in the US, "Tuesday Morning" which would reach #11. It's a catchy tune, certainly more polished and commercial than anything MacGowan ever did with the band.
Give it a couple listens and it will grow on you right away. Unless you're looking for Shane MacGowan, in which case you're looking in the wrong place.
This album features their biggest hit in the US, "Tuesday Morning" which would reach #11. It's a catchy tune, certainly more polished and commercial than anything MacGowan ever did with the band.
Give it a couple listens and it will grow on you right away. Unless you're looking for Shane MacGowan, in which case you're looking in the wrong place.
Reviewed in the United States on November 15, 2009
The pogues is shane MacGowan and there is no one who can replace him. I think spider is fine playing his whistle but his voice is not distinctive enough to fill Shanes place, actually it sounds like any other band even an american band now, its lost the Irish feel and sound and Shane himself said it was just too progressive now, I think it lost its purity. Shane was shane and no matter how drunk or messed up he was, he pulled it off, he never went off key but unfortunately towards the end he was impossible to understand. I saw him on Sat. night live and supposedly that was the straw that broke the camels back, I admit it was weird and Shane looked like hell but too bad . You a either a fan or your'e not. I don't think people realize that Shane was/is a musician and song writer like no other besides singing he wrote most of the songs Pogue sang of importance, he is more of a poet than a songwriter but he wrote some of the most beautiful melodies I'v ever heard, Rainy night in Soho was a beautiful song. He always sang great when he sang with someone else, like Sinead O'Connor or Kiersty MacKoll or the dubliners, or Nick Cave who pretended to be drunk most of the time and couldn't sing worth a darn, I'll take Shane drunk over anyone else sober Thank you.
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5.0 out of 5 stars
Todo ok
Reviewed in Spain on September 17, 2019
Todo perfecto, y me llegó rapido
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