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What was the Secret?


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Initial post: Nov 30, 2009, 2:53:59 AM PST
Can anyone tell me what Secret Peter and the Masons were protecting? At first it was suggested they were protecting the secret location of the Ancient Mysteries. But Brown makes clear the AMs are preserved in history's important religious texts.

Then it was suggested the Secret was the Verbum Perdo. But when we discover what that was, it turns out it was never lost. Then perhaps it was the location of the Lost Word. But it's common knowledge there's a Bible buried in the cornerstone of the Washington Memorial, so there's no secret there, either. And since there's a Bible in nearly every American home, the the fact there's a specific Bible in a specific location is almost beyond irrelevant, anyway.

Perhaps it was secrecy through obfuscation. Well, OK, so the Bible isn't so much the Lost Word as it is the most-printed book in all history. Nor is it any secret that there's a Bible buried under the WM. Nor does it really even matter that there's a Bible under the WM, because nearly every American owns a copy. So what we're really trying to prevent is people connecting the dots -- realizing the Bible is the key to unlocking the AMs.

But that doesn't work, either. Despite the fact the Bible is the most-studied book in history, entire wars have been fought over its meaning. Which makes it a pretty poor candidate for a key to unlocking anything -- let alone the AMs.

Any way I slice it, I just can't find a secret in there anywhere. So what, exactly, were generations of Solomons ready to surrender their lives to protect?

Posted on Nov 30, 2009, 7:24:10 AM PST
ag says:
It was only revealed briefly at the end of the book, which takes away much of the emphasis, but I believe the big secret was the video. Had common people without an open mind seen high power individuals perform the Masonic ritual described, it would have killed their careers. Peter, himself, felt he had a duty to protect his "brothers" from political fall-out.

As far as the generations protecting the secret of us all being gods and having god-like powers through technological advancements, I'm with you. I highly doubt someone bringing this thought into open and letting everyone know would create any sort of thought-renaissance. I'm guessing Katherine's Noetic research in the wrong hands could have changed the world, but Brown didn't do a good job in tying these things together.

Posted on Dec 6, 2009, 8:54:51 AM PST
Matt says:
The best I could tell, the bible hidden in the cornerstone was the secret. I suppose one could argue that the secret of enlightenment lies in translation of the bible, but it makes no sense that the masons went to such efforts to hide and guard one particular bible. And the puzzles that were necessary to find that one bible.. why all the mystery. The only way I can even make sense of it is if this particular bible had some notes which revealed the hidden meanings in the text. What do you think?

Posted on Dec 14, 2009, 7:39:15 PM PST
Granny Emily says:
The secret was the key to absolute power and eternal life, which was made inaccessible by the Masons.
"Absolute power corrupts absolutely" was probably the lynchpin.
On the other hand, if the secret was burried under eight gazillion tons of concrete, why guard the clues so carefully? No, I don't get it.
I think the real secret was that Dan Brown does great research (?) but can't keep the energy going.
Maybe Mr. Brown should hire a ghost writer to finish his next book, so he doesn't mess up another ending.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2009, 2:41:06 AM PST
I have to disagree on one point:

"Dan Brown does great research".

Frankly, just about every factoid in TLS could have been pulled from the Internet in a couple of afternoons. During coffee breaks. For impressive research, try nearly anything by Michael Gruber. His latest, for example: The Book of Air and Shadows. Read that, then let us know how you feel Brown's stacks up.

Here's a difference: Gruber's research is absolutely integral to the plot(*); The Book of Air and Shadows couldn't have been pulled off without Gruber's encyclopedic knowledge both of bookmaking and Shakesperian scholarship. Brown's factoids are tossed off in passim -- often quite literally, as Langdon dashes past some historical monument or fast food restaurant -- feeling for all the world like he just cut-and-pasted the relevant Wikipedia article. Eliminating all that would have improved TLS just by greatly shortening it, without materially impacting the storyline.

(*)Yes, the alleged Shakespeare manuscript is really just an elaborate McGuffin. But just possibly the best-researched McGuffin in literary history.

--CJ

Posted on Dec 20, 2009, 8:14:06 AM PST
I thought the secret word is the last in the Book,
HOPE

Posted on Dec 28, 2009, 11:11:29 PM PST
Steve Allee says:
I just finished TLS tonight and was really disappointed. I commented to my wife that Brown wrote for chapters and countless pages at the end of that book without saying anything. He puts Peter and Katherine through all of that plot drama, yet at the end of it they both cannot help but take Langdon to the WM and the Capital building to talk at him some more?...right. "Well Langdon, despite having my hand chopped off and watching my thought-to-be-dead-son actually die before my eyes from glass cuts in a death eerily similar to the bad dude in Ghost...I can't help but blindfold you, exercise my elite power to access closed government facilities and tell you more about the Ancient Mysteries. Meanwhile, my sister is going to overlook almost bleeding to death to leave in a manner that makes you think she's going to locate something of great value when she is actually verifying I backed up all of her work on my hello kitty flash drive so I could spy on her (although I already told her I backed it up but she didn't believe me apparently). From there, I'll exercise more of my elite hook up status to arrange a meeting for you two at a door with a secret key with more rules about how and when you can access it. Considering you've been running all over DC and almost killed this evening while trying to save my life, I'm sure you'd like to just get naked with my sister and go to sleep. However, I'm going to ignore your wishes and send you on two more pointless adventures because that is my top priority after getting my hand chopped off and having multiple friends/family members killed/almost killed."

All of his conversations with Peter and Katheryn at the end of the book seemed like it was Brown emptying out the rest of his notes. It was like he wrote the book and realized he forgot to incorporate all of those scriptures, quotes and factoids, so Brown just had Peter and Katheryn explain them all to Langdon AFTER the climax in the plot. Brown doesn't really reveal anything profound (like the location of the Holy Grail in DVC) and just overwhelms us with paragraph after paragraph of the Solomon's beliefs that all of the ancient philosophers, great minds and religions of the world had this profound knowledge and now none of us know about it. Its like he expects us to swallow that people who lived in a time when they would go to the doctor for a good blood-letting to get the demons out of them, had some profound, earth shattering knowledge that I am not privy to now. Hope? Right, I forgot. No one on Earth hopes anymore. Its kind of ironic that I "hoped" he'd hurry up and get to the point but never did.

Posted on Dec 29, 2009, 11:58:10 AM PST
Can't tell you, it's a secret. :)

Posted on Jan 1, 2010, 6:31:11 AM PST
rick g. says:
I think the lost secret was G-O-D...

Posted on Jan 1, 2010, 5:01:33 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 1, 2010, 5:29:20 PM PST
Greg says:
It made no sense to me either. Peter and Bellamy were willing to put the lives of their family and friends on the line in order to protect the secrets of the Masonic pyramid and all it does is point to the location of a bible? That's stupid. If I were Peter, I would have told Malak, Sato or whoever to just take the g.d. pyramid.

"Have fun with that bible that everyone already knows about and you can't even get to because it's inside the washington monument cornerstone. If it's any consolation, you probably already have a copy of the bible. "

Anyway, it was a ridiculous ending. The encoded "map", might as well have led them to the Luxor hotel and casino in Las Vegas with the circumpunt marking the location of a hotel room dresser with the sacred Lost Symbol (aka Gideon bible) inside. Actually, I was hoping that Peter Solomon was feeding Langdon some BS revelation about the lost symbol being the bible and would then, later on, uncover the real lost symbol. Like, somewhere in the epilogue we see Bellamy, Peter and that blind priest burning the lost symbol into their palms which subsequently imbues them with the power to shoot lasers out of their eyes. I don't know. At least then it would be something worth uncovering. The lost symbol is God? Hope? Get out of here with that BS, Dan Brown. Give us something epic, like a gigantic treasure inside Mount Rushmore (ala National Treasure 2), or GTFO.

But on a more serious note, I think Dan Brown missed out on an opportunity to give this book a good ending. The most gripping part about this book was that the main villain, Malak, was actually Peter Solomon's son. It would have been nice to see Dan Brown draw some symbolic parallels between Peter's lost son and the Masonic myth of the lost symbol. Zach was searching for the lost symbol and meanwhile he was living out the story of the Lost Son (aka the prodigal son). Dan Brown mentioned this in passing, but didn't really explore it to any extent. Instead, he went off on other tangents like the book of revelation (apocalypse), e pluribus unum, 'as above, so below', and other quotations of wisdom that didn't really tie together at all.

Posted on Jan 2, 2010, 3:41:01 AM PST
Older Mom says:
Well, I enjoyed the thing, but felt disappointed by the bait--"what he has is very real! which I thought would be at least a nuclear noetic bomb or something--to switch: a video of Powerful Men in Masonic robes, which might as well have been Household Word White Male secretly taped at a call girl's. And the other thing I didn't like (this is a spoiler!) is that I did not for one second believe that Peter and Katherine wouldn't recognize Mal'Ach and why not just call him Moloch? That's who he says he is, and what's the point of an abstruse spelling? If we don't recognize he's Moloch then his tatoos, hormones and steroids conceal his identity from his father and aunt? Nooooooooooo. Even so, it's a totally gripping read and I enjoyed the history and tidbits and I write as someone who wishes she could outfit each chapter with a cliffhanger. Wow! Dan Brown, you really are amazing!

Posted on Jan 3, 2010, 6:18:15 PM PST
Maybe the secret is not exactly the object itself, nor what it contains, but it is in the discovery or "journey?"

Posted on Jan 4, 2010, 8:51:34 AM PST
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I have to say that while the book kept me turning the pages into the wee hours of the night I was COMPLETELY disappointed with the ending. The Lost Symobl is a freakin' Bible?!!! Give me a break! Aside from perhaps the author's own DaVinci Code, the Bible is the most widely read book in the world. It's words are no secret. Why have the highest escellon of Masonry protect it with their lives and an elaborate scavenger hunt? It might make sense if this particular copy of the Bible contained--as someone else in this discussion already conjectured--marginalia of ancient mystical insight into the text written by a legendary figure that provide the reader with God-like powers. Given the book's working title of "The Solomon Key", I was actually hoping that the last few pages would reveal that the Bible in the cornerstone of the Washington Monument was in fact the Torah scroll written by King Solomon himself (according to Deut. 17:18, all Israeli Kings were required to write their own copy of the Torah). This would have been a good ending for a three reasons: (1) King Solomon and his Temple of Jerusalem figure prominantly in Masonic origin lore; (2) There exists a grimoire for summoning demons titled "The Solomon Key" that claims to have been penned by King Solomon. If the ACTUAL Solomon Key was the marginalia in King Solomon's Torah it would have been a compelling treasure for the demonic Mal'akh; (3) It would be a great explanation as to why it is the Solomon family that are the keepers of this secret... they are the desendants of King Solomon and the blood of the Davidic dynasty runs through their veins. Their heritage and destiny are the exact Messianic secret that make for the formula of a Robert Langdon novel. Too bad Dan Brown didn't write it that way.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2010, 2:33:00 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 6, 2010, 2:35:53 AM PST
Steven J. Bernstein:

I like it! The problem is, if it hasn't been written up by Baigent and Leigh, then Brown's probably never heard of it.

I remember stumbling across a website a few weeks back that rambled on and on semi-coherently about the Solomon Key. Seems like it would have made a much better McGuffin than a buried Bible.

Posted on Jan 8, 2010, 6:26:31 AM PST
A post script to my previous post: Brown could have also connected the Solomon family to Haim Solomon, a Masonic founding father of the United States who secured the neccessary financial support for the revolution.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 9, 2010, 5:53:20 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 9, 2010, 6:00:46 PM PST
M. Rivera says:
TO: Steve Alee,
I think you're a better writer than Dan Brown! I laughed till I cried (TRULY!!) while reading your comments. Thank you!! At least the puchase of this book wasn't a total waste. I just love your sarcasm and you are RIGHT ON. M.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 18, 2010, 2:47:44 PM PST
I had the exact same reaction - give me a break! He doesn't even ask for an advil after having his hand cut off. The book went on way beyond it's 'end'. My first Dan Brown book, wondering if it will be my last!

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 21, 2010, 6:44:28 PM PST
Maryam says:
Steve Allee,

Exactly! Katherine presumably had fairly severe blood loss; Peter's hand was cut off, but he doesn't appear to be suffering from shock, blood loss, or even slight pain. I suspect that the rest of us wouldn't have been given a choice about receiving medical treatment, but the Solomons are obviously a clan apart.

I couldn't figure out how all the world's religions, developed in different times places, with wildly different viewpoints about God/s, morality, the place of man in the cosmos, etc., could all have the same one central tenet, which has been hidden from all but the select few-FOR OUR OWN GOOD-by the enlightened elite throughout the centuries. I couldn't figure out how the blind clergyman kept on keepin' on if he'd decided that the church had gone in the completely wrong direction, and only the Masons had the key (which they weren't planning to use) to give us all the Ancient Mysteries. But then, I couldn't figure out what kind of super makeup the villain was using so that no one ever noticed the total body tattoos, either, and the wig-cam cracked me up. These characters belong in a comic book.

Posted on Jan 23, 2010, 3:53:44 PM PST
J. Brandt says:
I read the book. At the end I wanted my money back. The Lost Symbol. It should be re-named, "The Lost Dollars I wasted on this book."

Posted on Jan 28, 2010, 6:53:36 PM PST
A customer says:
I have read TLS, but there is a nonfiction book released just after Dan Brown's book revealing the true "lost" symbol. The author of this non-fiction book believed that Dan Brown either knew what it was and was "scared off" from revealing it in full, by the same folks he pretty much gives a glowing love-fest of in TLS, or that he was just short of the truth. The name of that book is Apollyon Rising 2012 by Tom Horn, and is a scholarly work with quite a bit of research having gone into it. A true eye-opener.

Posted on Jan 29, 2010, 4:17:04 PM PST
G. Mercado says:
Who won the football game?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 1, 2010, 4:27:07 PM PST
T. Govia says:
I agree with everything you said in your post. I felt as though Dan Brown had a contractual obligation to fulfill and this is what we got....... This was like a bad soap opera+bible class+history class+I am out of ideas mixed in one big mess of a book.

He had me at the start and I read with anticipation but the fire died quickly with this book. The last few chapters were torture to read.........way too much unnecessary information and you had to wrap your mind around the following

(1)Katheryn nearly bled to death and was hopping and skipping to get her research that her brother insisted was too valuable to keep outside of her lab yet he had back up in his office. DB should have kept the research as being destroyed because at least it would have tied in with mankind being to stupid to accept the bible being a part of some big conspiricy.
(2) Peter had his hand CHOPPED off - yet this guy is the pillar of strength and is able to teach a history class while on a field trip with Robert
(3) Oh and Robert........ poor, poor Robert did he leave his brillance in Rome.......did it explode with the helicoper in A&D......... does anyone think that Tom Hanks will reprise his role for this?!?!?
(4) Malak was a lost opportunity- he could have been sooooo baaadd - I was expecting the Antichrist x 10 the way they described him as being the worst villian to date in the series but come on this is 2009/2010 you are dealing with..........I'm so scary with my fake bronzer and my not-a-hair-out-of-place wig cam........The albino guy from DVC should have made a come back and wacked himself a few more times and that would have been better than half the crap in this book- I think anything is possible in Dan Brown's world......

I consider myself to be an intelligent person but I am still trying to figure out what the Lost Symbol was or is? As someone said in another post I was waiting to see a huge pyramid buried under the White House or something and only the President, Peter and other top Masons have access to it - now that would have been interesting. I understand the bible being "the word" of God but is DB trying to say what we know the bible to be is really code for something so much bigger that we humans lack the ability to grasp its full meaning until we achieve some higher level of understanding?

I can go on and on but I will leave with this - will there be a movie for this one and will anyone go to see it? I'll wait for the DVD.

Posted on Feb 2, 2010, 9:00:00 AM PST
rick g. says:
I cant help but conclude that the lost symbol is in point of fact....the point within the circle....since it appears on the cover and within the text? Hidden in plain site? Then unraveling which, if not all, of its many meanings is the key one...best one....lost one...synergistic one? Gold, Ra, sun, universe, obelisk, male, female et al...

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 9, 2010, 10:50:11 AM PST
I also read HOPE to be the "secret" ... it made me roll my eyes as I tossed the book aside. HOKEY!

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2010, 8:51:33 AM PST
"...as I tossed the book aside"

Bringing to mind the famous Dorothy Sayers quote: "This is not a novel to be tossed aside lightly. It should be thrown with great force."

Quite apropos of DB's current literary effort.
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