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When Shall These Things Be?: A Reformed Response to Hyper-Preterism Paperback – February 20, 2004
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This book constitutes the first detailed and in-depth response to the movement known as "full preterism" but better called "hyper preterism." Naturally, because it is the first, it will stumble in some areas. But there are also positives.
By far the best contributions are the chapters by Gentry ("The Historical Problem with Hyper-Preterism"), Hill ("Eschatology in the Wake of Jerusalem's Fall"), Wilson ("Sola Scriptura, Creeds, and Ecclesiastical Authority"), and Stimple ("Hyper-Preterism on the Resurrection of the Body"). They are the best because they are tightly reasoned and exegetically based (I don't know if I've seen more scripture quoted in a book before. They can constitute a third or half of a page on occasion).
The remaining chapters are certainly ok, but not spectacular. That said, there is one chapter that completely stands out as being the worst contribution to this book, but also the worst explanation of the prophetic time texts I have read to date. It is Pratt's chapter ("Hyper-Preterism and Unfolding Biblical Eschatology"). The entire chapter's argument can be presented as follows: "Biblical prophesy and prediction do not need to be fulfilled in the manner, or the timing, made by the initial prophesy." Thus, his best defense becomes the worst offense. No, his best defense is to have no offense at all. Pratt's argument seems to go like this: "when confronted with a dissenting opinion to orthodoxy, we ought to exterminate everyone on earth.Read more ›
This book is a compilation of essays from a mostly Reformed perspective written by a variety of scholars. As such, some essays are better than others, and the reader should expect to find disagreement between the contributors on matters of eschatology.
By far the best contribution in this book is delivered by Hill. A person without an in-depth knowledge of eschatology nonetheless has the ability to ask a rather basic but telling question where full preterism is concerned - if Jesus' Second and final Coming occurred in 70 AD, and we are now supposedly living in the new heavens and new earth, why is it that no document we know of written by any Christian around this time ever recognized that such an apolocalyptic event took place? Is it reasonable to think that a small and mostly undistinguished group of people 2,000 years later have identified what nobody at the time knew about and the historic Christian church for 2,000 years has been unaware of? According to full preterism, the answer is a resounding 'yes'. Hill tackles this question with meticulous scholarship and documentation, coupled with painfully probing questions about how such a view could possibly make any sense to anyone.Read more ›
Mathison is an employee of Dr. R. C. Sproul, one of my favorite theologians. Mathison has written other books which I enjoy. I am glad he has assembled this group of theologians to expose hyper-preterism. They did a wonderful job.
I was especially thankful that the book put the heretical problem in historical context. As Christians we often tend to approach Scripture individualistically, as if we were the final judge of truth and error. But the chapter on creeds (ch. 1), on history (ch. 2), and on the canon of the NT (ch. 6) were extremely helpful. These chapters remind us that not everyone who thumps the Bible loudly is being true to Scripture.
I also found several of the earlier reviews very interesting. It seems obvious that some group called "Healing Leaves" is making a concerted effort to keep Christians from reading the book. And judging from the character of their reviews, I believe it is easy to see another reason for alarm with this new movement.
For some inexplicable reason, the hyperpreterist reviewers of this book only mention Mathison and Gentry -- two of the seven authors in this work. The other five hold prominent positions in theological seminaries. It is odd that they generally attack only Gentry and Mathison (who are both holders of master's degrees in theology from Reformed Theological Seminary, as well as doctoral degrees from Whitefield Seminary).Read more ›
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Wow. It is clear from all the comments that a lot of people are very passionate about this topic.
I simply wanted to offer a very brief summary of what I learned from... Read more
I thought that the creedal, historical, and resurrection chapters were by far the strongest. Pratt's usual shpiel about prophetic conditionality and degrees of certainty is applied... Read morePublished on September 6, 2012 by Clarinet Player
THIS BOOK IS A CLINIC ON HOW NOT TO INTERPRET THE BIBLE!!!
Jesus speaking to the church of Philadelphia in first century Asia Minor... Read more
Keith A. Mathison, director of curriculum development for Ligonier Ministries, initiated a firestorm of controversy within the preterist community with the book he edited: When... Read morePublished on July 17, 2011 by Christian
One has to admire Gentry and Mathison for their willingness to tackle this subject. Gary DeMar frankly disclaims any responsibility to address hyperpreterism, claiming it is... Read morePublished on November 29, 2010 by Book Guy
this book shows the weakness of hyper-creedalism and biblical exegesis. i imagine that there are better books out there that critique hyper-preterism from the dispensational camp. Read morePublished on April 7, 2010 by Todd T. Stevenson
Through the sin of Adam all men are cursed. Man is cursed the days he walks the earth and man is cursed with death. The meaning of death is both spiritual and physical. Read morePublished on February 8, 2010 by Philip S Roeda
As a FORMER 15-year long hyperpreterist who had read WSTTB while I was a hyperpreterist & then later after I left the hyperpreterist movement (in 2007), I hope I can offer the... Read morePublished on August 11, 2009 by Roderick Edwards
To begin with, let me point out that as a Full Preterist ("Hyper-Preterist"), I have offered more than a review of this book - being one of the co-authors in a Full Preterist book... Read morePublished on August 9, 2009 by Michael J. Sullivan