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When We Were Romans: A Novel Paperback – Deckle Edge, July 22, 2008
Narrated in Lawrence’s perfectly rendered voice, When We Were Romans powerfully evokes the emotions and confusions of childhood—the triumphs, the jealousies, the fears, and the love. Even as everything he understands is turned upside down, Lawrence remains determined to keep his family together, viewing the world from a perspective that is at once endearingly innocent and preternaturally wise.
- Print length240 pages
- LanguageEnglish
- PublisherNan A. Talese
- Publication dateJuly 22, 2008
- Dimensions6.02 x 1 x 8.57 inches
- ISBN-100385526253
- ISBN-13978-0385526258
- Lexile measure1440L
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"Like Scout in To Kill a Mockingbird and Christopher in The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time, young Lawrence brings readers into his world, powerfully connecting us to the drama of his childhood.”
–Pat Conroy, author of The Prince of Tides and Beach Music
“I fell in love with Lawrence, an unusually touching and convincing child protagonist. Kneale’s astonishingly observant, humane writing is heartbreaking.”
–Charlotte Mendelson, author of When We Were Bad
“Think of the delicate balancing act involved in creating a child narrator–a 9-year-old, say, with a single mother and a baby sister. The boy has to be cute, of course, and also wise in unexpected ways, fragile, protective, funny, solemn and, well, childlike. Matthew Kneale achieves all that brilliantly in When We Were Romans, then gives it another turn of the screw.... [T]he scary truth…is that it’s our valiant young narrator who needs protecting.”
–The New York Observer
“How much Lawrence understands of his family’s tribulations is the book’s central, poignant mystery; the consummate artistry with which Kneale captures this child’s voice, its chief pleasure.”
–Entertainment Weekly
“The journey through Lawrence’s complex mind is touching and delightful, mostly because he is such an unswerving authentic little boy…. His voice is a voice to remember.”
–The Seattle Times
“If you enjoyed The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night Time, definitely pick up When We Were Romans. It will make you thank God for children in a world made absurd by adults.”
–St. Petersbusrg Times
“Irreverent and ingeious.”
-The Boston Globe
“There have been plenty of coming-of-age stories that pit a child’s innocence against the inexorable force of a parent’s insanity, but perhaps none that has captured the tension, confusion and ultimate loss of that innocence any better than When We Were Romans.”
–Bookpage
“Lawrence is a narrator extraordinaire.”
–The Christian Science Monitor
“Matthew Kneale is an extraordinary British writer whose new novel is easy to admire because of its artistry…. The quality that sets Kneale apart is his talent for impersonation…. As Lawrence describes it, [his and his mum's] 'adventure' is an attempt to flee the vaguely articulated menace posed by Lawrence's estranged father…. Their enemies might be real or they might be imagined, but what's absolutely true for Lawrence is his unshakable belief in the conspiracy of his and his mother's love. 'Conspire' means 'to breathe together,' and so he does with Mum, and so we do with him.”
-Washington Post Book World
“This is the novel that Patrick McCabe’s over-praised the Butcher Boy ought to have been, redeemed by Kneale’s sure-handed restraint. One of the best explorations of a child’s mind and heart in recent fiction, and its talented author’s best book yet.”
–Kirkus Reviews (starred review)
“Kneale, who won the Whitbread for English Passengers, returns with a tale narrated by fiery, precocious, pitch-perfect Lawrence, who at nine years old struggles with being at once a normal kid and, with his parents’ estrangement, the man of the house.... As small incongruities pile up between what Lawrence sees and how he interprets what happens to him, the family’s hurtlings across Europe and the city take on a shattered poignancy.”
–Publishers Weekly (starred review)
“[A] haunting story of a family in disintegration.... Kneale has created a marvelously engaging and believable voice for Lawrence, whose account is at once heartbreaking and humorous.... Idiosyncratic, original, and altogether memorable.”
–Booklist (starred review)
“This narrative is heartbreakingly moving.... Full of restraint and artistic integrity, this is a poignant, haunting and lovely novel.”
–The Guardian
“[Lawrence] is the literary first cousin of Roddy Doyle’s Paddy Clarke.... The heartbreak and triumph of When We Were Romans is that little Lawrence is the real thing.”
–Literary Review
“Matthew Kneale’s lovely novel...is narrated by Lawrence with insight, humour and sweetly erratic spelling: it halts and splutters in rhythm with the children’s whims and tantrums.... The author has got inside a young, over-burdened mind with convincing accuracy.”
–Financial Times
“Kneale creates an extraordinary tension.... The combination of insight and innocence Kneale gives Lawrence is powerfully affecting.”
–Sunday Times
"Kneale has succeeded.... Lawrence has real presence and his situation is entirely believable."
–Daily Telegraph
“A skilful, humorous and touching novel about the way a child interprets the world.”
–Daily Mail
“The strength of Kneale’s novel is not suspense but Lawrence’s delicate sensibility.... Lawrence’s touchingly ingenuous language, his tetchy irritation with his baby sister and his beleaguered optimism make him a genuinely affecting protagonist.”
–Independent
“Substantial and engaging…With consummate subtlety and sympathy, Kneale finds metaphorical hinges between the family’s unfolding story and Lawrence’s two intellectual interests — Roman emperors and astronomy.”
–The Times
“A consistently absorbing read, the work of a craftsman.”
–Sunday Telegraph
“Laurence’s skilful maneuvering in a tricksy adult world is artfully depicted. His guileless voice only exacerbates the sense of dread, while its deceptive simplicity hides a chilling exploration of mental illness and maternal neglect.”
–New Statesman
“The compelling and disturbing portrayal of a child’s attempt to make sense of his mother’s mental illness.”
–Daily Express
About the Author
From The Washington Post
Matthew Kneale is an extraordinary British writer whose new novel is easy to admire because of its artistry, but difficult to read because of its painful subject. If "extraordinary" sounds too much like hyperbolic reviewer-speak, I would direct skeptics to Kneale's English Passengers (2000), his award-winning novel about the mid-19th-century colonizing of Tasmania that's part rollicking high-seas adventure, part Heart of Darkness, and that can only be described, without the faintest whiff of exaggeration, as extraordinary.
The quality that sets Kneale apart is his talent for impersonation. He told the story of English Passengers using no fewer than 20 idiosyncratic voices, including those of a rum smuggler, a delusional missionary, a racist doctor, a penal colony inmate and several of Tasmania's last remaining aborigines. The narrative seemed not so much written as clamorously populated.
His latest novel features only a single voice yet is an equally impressive act of ventriloquism. The voice belongs to Lawrence, a 9-year-old British schoolboy on whom the reader is entirely dependent. That dependence requires us to hack through a narrative environment thick with run-on sentences, erratic spelling and a child's-eye view of turbulent and sometimes disturbing circumstances with his loving but chaotic protector, his "mum," Hannah.
"Mum is really clever," Lawrence confides, so when she suggests rather suddenly that they pick up and drive from their English country cottage to Rome, where she lived before her marriage, Lawrence unquestioningly complies. He packs up as many precious items as he can fit in Mum's "renno," wedging in his hamster, his Tintin and Asterix books, his Lego and Hot Wheels and his 3-year-old sister, Jemima.
The journey, while exhilarating, is far from a lark. As Lawrence describes it, their "adventure" is an attempt to flee the vaguely articulated menace posed by Lawrence's estranged father, who, according to Mum, has been spying on them, breaking into their cottage and turning their neighbors against them. "I will help mum," determines Lawrence, who assumes the role of the little husband and allows himself to feel angry or scared only during the brief lulls in Hannah's periods of manic desperation. "I cant get upset too actually or there will be nobody left," he says plainly, wringing our hearts.
Many things go wrong once they reach Italy: Their car breaks down; Mum periodically breaks down ("One moment she was all fine and then it was like a big ray just shon on her and made her go wrong"); she loses her passport and runs out of money; they wear out their welcome at the homes of Mum's old friends. Yet while these setbacks and the accompanying hum of anxiety are unnerving, the trip is not entirely a calamity.
For every mishap, there is a taste of elation: the "lovely fountains" at the "Piazzer navoner," a surrey ride at the "viller borgasey," the scrumptiousness of chocolate "crussons" and "spaggetties," the purchase of toy Roman soldiers, with which Lawrence makes plans to build a fort. These highlights shine with relief and even grandeur: "I thought 'hurrah hurrah, now we are real Romans' I thought 'now we will really be safe.' " If only that were true; if only the threat of his dad's encroachment did not devolve into a nightmare of his mother's paranoia.
During one of her manic episodes, Mum and Lawrence build a cardboard Roman fort together, an activity that lives in his memory as a magical event. "It was like we were solders in a battile," he says. Their enemies might be real or they might be imagined, but what's absolutely true for Lawrence is his unshakable belief in the conspiracy of his and his mother's love. "Conspire" means "to breathe together," and so he does with Mum, and so we do with him.
Copyright 2008, The Washington Post. All Rights Reserved.
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One day scientists found something strange out in space. This thing was pulling millions of galaxies towards it, one of them is the Milky Way which is ours, but the scientists couldn’t see the thing because it was hidden behind lots of dust. They thought “this thing must be huge to pull all these galaxies towards it, and we are getting pulled towards it really fast, it is at millions of miles per hour, but it could be anything, nobody knows, it is a mystery.” They thought “this is strange, this is scary” and then they said “I know, let’s call the thing the Great Attractor.”
The great Attractor is pulling us right now. I think it is probably a huge black hole, because black holes eat everything, they even eat light so you can’t ever see them, they look just like a piece of really dark night. One day I bet there will be a big disaster, we will go nearer and nearer and then suddenly we will get pulled right in. It will be like a big hand gets us so we will vanish, because nothing can get out of a black hole you see, we will be stuck there for ever. It is strange to think that every day, every minute we are all being pulled towards the Great Attractor but hardly anybody knows. People go about their ordinary every day lives, they have toast for breakfast and go to school, they watch their favorite programs on the telly and they never even guess.
We were coming back from the supermarket, we went to a further away one where we never went before so it would be all right, and it was an adventure mum said, we must be really quick, we must be like birds diving down and getting some food and flying away with it in their mouths. It was fun, actually, we got our cart and we almost ran, we just grabbed all the tins and packets and milk and tinfoil etc etc. Then Jemima saw some sweets in a little purple tin and she said “oh I want them, I need them, please mum.” Mum said “don’t be silly now, Lamikin” which is what she calls Jemima sometimes “anyway those aren’t real sweets their cough sweets, their bad for you.” But Jemima didn’t listen, she never does, and she started crying like a big crybaby, she said “but I need them, I need that purple tin.”
She was still saying it when we were coming back in the car and suddenly we were almost home. We went past Mrs Potters house and the droopy trees which look funny like hair and I thought “uhoh” I thought “now there will be trouble” but I didn’t say anything of course, because we couldn’t ever say anything in front of Jemima, because she was too young to understand. But then there was a surprise, because it was fine after all. Jemima was terrible just like I expected, when mum stopped the car she said “I’m staying here, I want to go back to the supermarket” but mum was ready, she said “if you come with me then I’ll give you a nice treat” and it worked. Jemima went quiet and said “all right.”
Then we were so fast. Mum got Jemima out of her car seat and we all got all the plastic bags out of the trunk, I carried lots, even though they were really heavy, we went to the door, we were almost running, and Mum had her key all ready. That was when I looked round, I didn’t really want to but I couldn’t help it, I just had to. I looked at the fence and the bushes. But it was all all right, there wasn’t anybody at all. Then we were inside, mum shut the door, she locked it, and I thought “hurrah hurrah” I thought “look at all this food, this will last ages.” We put it away in the fridge and the cupboards, and after that I went up to see Hermann. I cleaned his bowls and gave him some new nuts and water.
Jemima followed like always so I let her watch, I said “no you can’t hold him.” Then it was time for robot wars, which is one of my favorite programs, there was a robot called the obliterator and another called the stamper which had a big sort of foot. So we sat on the sofa and I thought “I bet everything will be all right now” I thought “I bet dad will go away back to Scotland and then I can go back to school again, because I’m all better from my flu now” I thought “I wonder if Tania Hodgsons cat had its kittens yet, I wonder if they were all tabbies like their mum?” Jemima was being annoying like usual. She said “I don’t want to watch robot wars, I want to watch the other side.” I said “there isn’t anything on the other side Jemima you big silly, its just the news” but it didn’t work, she said “I want the clicker, I never get the clicker, its my turn.” Jemima is terrible with the clicker, she just does it again and again really fast so you can’t watch anything, so I said “you can’t Jemima, you’ll break it like you broke your new pink sunglasses.”
That was when mum came in. She said “here’s your treat lesonfon” which is what she calls us sometimes, it is “children” in French, she told us once. It was our supper, usually we can’t eat it when we watch telly but she said “just this once” and it was hot dogs and oven chips which was a treat too, because mum says we can’t have oven chips because their too expensive, their a real waste of money. Usually I would just be pleased by those treats, I would think “oh yes, how delicious” but this time I wasn’t actually, which was because I noticed mums face. You see, all that smiling she got from getting the food from the supermarket was just gone away again, it was like it all went down the plug hole, she tried to smile when she said “heres your treat, lesonfon” but it didn’t work, I saw it, she just looked all worried and desperate.
I looked at Jemima but she hadn’t noticed, she was too busy watching robot wars and trying to eat her chips too quickly, she said “ow too hot” she is such a greedy guts. I thought “what will I do, I must help mum” I thought “but I really want these chips, if I don’t stay and eat them then Jemima will steal them secritly, perhaps I should just stay and eat them really fast” but then I thought “no no, I must help mum now.” Suddenly I had an idea. I said “Jemima I am going to the loo, you can have the clicker just until I get back” and she was really pleased of course, she said “oh yes” and grabed it right out of my hand. I said “I’ve counted all my chips really carefully, Jemima, if you eat even just one tiny one then I’ll notice and I’ll put all your favorite dolls on a high shelf so you’ll never get them again.”
Mum was sitting in the kitchen. She jumped up a bit when she saw me, she said “Lawrence.” I said “whats wrong mum?” and she went really quiet, she said “what dyou mean?” so I said “somethings gone wrong, I can see it in your face.” She closed her eyes a bit, she said “oh Lawrence, I don’t want to upsit you with all of this” and she sort of squinted her eyes. I thought “she will tell me now” so I said “all of what mum?” and she did a little moan, she said “I don’t know what to do, its so awful, we just can’t go on like this.”
I really hated it when poor mum went sad like that. I thought “what can I do to help her?” but I couldn’t think of anything, I tried and tried, I thought “this is bad” until suddenly I had an idea. So I said “why don’t we go away for a bit, just until he’s gone away, we could go to Uncle Harry’s or somewhere.” Uncle Harry lives in London, he has a big house. We went there for Christmas but it was just for lunch, we didn’t stay because we are too noisy so aunt Clarissa gets a head ache, and mum gets worried Jemima will break Uncle Harries old plates which are stuck on the walls like pictures, they cost lots of money. But mum shook her head, she said “they’re away, they’ve gone skiying.” I thought “oh dam” I thought “there must be somewhere we can go” but it was hard actually, because mum doesn’t know many people, usually its just us in the cottage. I thought “I’m not going to give up now when everythings going so well, when we got all that food.” So I said “what about Grandma and Grandpa in Kew.”
Mum shook her head again, she was blinking, she said “he’d just follow us . . .” But then she stopped, she frowned like she was thinking really hard, and she said “unless . . .” This was good, at least she wasn’t just saying “no, nothing will work” so I said “unless what?” And then she said it, she said “unless we went somewhere really far away. Somewhere he’d never be able to find us. Somewhere like Rome.” Now she sort of squinted like this was better and better and she said “actually we could you know. I’ve got our passports from that time we almost went to France.”
This was different, this was a big surprise. Mum sometimes talked about Rome where she lived years ago before I was born, and how we must all go one day to see the fountains which were so beautifull and eat the food which was so delicious, but I never thought it would happen, especially suddenly like this. Another surprise was that mum didn’t look so worreid anymore, in fact she even did a little tiny smile, that was good. I didn’t want to stop mums new smile of course, I really wanted it to stay, but I just didn’t know, I couldn’t help it. So I said “but what about school?” because I had tests at the end of term, you see, and I had my science project too, I was doing SPACE for M...
Product details
- Publisher : Nan A. Talese
- Publication date : July 22, 2008
- Edition : First Edition
- Language : English
- Print length : 240 pages
- ISBN-10 : 0385526253
- ISBN-13 : 978-0385526258
- Item Weight : 13.8 ounces
- Dimensions : 6.02 x 1 x 8.57 inches
- Lexile measure : 1440L
- Best Sellers Rank: #7,310,686 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
- #20,520 in Contemporary Literature & Fiction
- #55,054 in Literary Fiction (Books)
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- Reviewed in the United States on July 23, 2014The author does quite a good job of maintaining the perspective/voice of the child narrator. He does tip his hand on the ending, which you can see coming by at least midway through the narrative. However, it's a good job of evoking the sights, sounds and smells of Rome, as viewed through the senses of the child. All in all, a good read, though not as ultimately satisfying as it could be--perhaps a little thin on plot.
- Reviewed in the United States on February 25, 2015Story told from the point of view of a 9 year old in a dysfunctional family. They move from England to France and the mother is paranoid and makes the kids afraid of things, too. Interesting.
- Reviewed in the United States on September 15, 2022I think that Matthew Kneale at his best is genuinely brilliant; "English Passengers" is one of the most powerful novels I have read in the past couple of decades. "When We Were Romans" doesn't reach that high standard, and it differs significantly from the other Kneale fiction with which I am familiar. In tone it more resembles Emma Donoghue's "Room" than Kneale's "English Passengers" or "Pilgrims" with their sweeping settings and huge casts of characters. For me part of the problem with "When We Were Romans" was the child narrator, through whose eyes we see the story unfold. I simply didn't find him interesting enough to want to spend 300 pages in his company (although in appeal he is light years ahead of his younger sister, who made me want to rush out and buy every birth control device at the local pharmacy).
- Reviewed in the United States on December 18, 2016I got it somewhere near the 30% read area, but I was compelled by the voice and the spelling of the child to see how this drama would play out. I felt many of his feelings. Anxiety and the hopeful innocence of relying upon our parents to make our world right for us is so universal a theme. Interesting interaction between Mother and children during a trying time of life.
- Reviewed in the United States on May 13, 2009This is one of the most charming books I've ever read. The voice of the child narrator, Lawrence, is one you'll never forget. The story is masterfully told, keeping you guessing until the last page. A glorious novel that's at once sweet, dark and page-turning.
- Reviewed in the United States on January 2, 2018Based on the online reviews, I decided to try this book. Unfortunately, it started slow, and never lived up to the reviews. Character development was lacking, and plot was predictable.
- Reviewed in the United States on June 21, 2018The author makes a try at writing in the voice of 9-year-old boy, but doesn’t succeed. The affectations, especially the numerous spellings errors, are extremely annoying, as is the boy’s constant habit of saying “hurrah, hurrah!” to himself. I don't believe that any kid talks or thinks like the one Kneale has created. Are we supposed to imagine this is an actual memoir written by this boy? I doubt that any child is as perceptive as Kneale makes this one.
Also annoying are the author's excursions into tiresome soliloquies by young Lawrence about the universe, Roman emperors and nasty popes. Tedious filler to make a short novel a bit longer, and totally irrelevant to the story.
Two children— the “writer” Lawrence and his 3(?) -year-old sister Jemima— are hustled off from England to Rome by their crazy mother, who is convinced that her ex-husband is stalking them. (The mother had lived in Rome for some years before her marriage.) Once the little family arrives in Rome, after driving there from England, the author gives the reader no sense whatsoever of the city. OK— we’re seeing the city through the uncomprehending eyes of a kid who knows nothing about it, but still… the story could be taking place anywhere— no particular reason to set the tale in Rome, other than giving the author the opportunity to phonetically misspell a bunch of Italian words and place names.
As the mother’s psychosis deepens, she convinces her son that the father has followed them Rome, poisoned all her friends there against them, poisoned their water supply, poisoned their food. So they drive back to England and up to Scotland, with the plan of setting the father’s house on fire and killing him, which of course doesn’t work out. Ma winds up in the nuthouse and the obnoxious kids end up in the custody of their father. There's nobody to like in this novel!
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LanclyReviewed in the United Kingdom on March 27, 20105.0 out of 5 stars reluctant 5 stars
Just read this book and none of the reviews first, is what I would advocate.
Kneale is clearly a powerful craftsman (having read all that is available). I am reluctant about the The 5 stars as I found the story tormenting right from the start (there was clearly something awry). Thinking about it, The English Passengers has haunted me for years. This one will do too. It's one of those books that I want to tell my friends about but worry for them if they read it. The road on the front cover is the road that you will be taken on, with motion sickness.
As Lawrence is betrayed, so do I feel. The fairy-land trip to Rome is puffed up in smoke. I liked the ending, although it seemed just a bit short. It was a relief, and it was as I expected (but not predictable), although parts of it were disbelievable. As the characters are de-briefed surely so does the reader have to be? How does the psychology work?
I was irritated by the child-like spelling, and kept on getting automatically caught up on words thinking 'what's that?' then realising it was an intentional misspelling - but this copy editing catch kept on hauling me out of the narrative. Eventually Lawrence's spelling mistakes thinned out but not entirely.
I don't know how necessary the spelling was to convince me that I had a child in my mind. I think I agree with it in the end.
it's a powerful declaration of the potential for damaging experience in an older child.
Thank you.
Literature LadyReviewed in the United Kingdom on July 11, 20094.0 out of 5 stars Well conjured family drama
Kneale paints a wonderfully real image of a very dysfunctional family, with the young son trying his best to hold it all together despite his tender age. Even while you feel the need for discipline and structure in the lives of the children, at the same time you can feel for the mother, whose struggle to keep things looking as normal as possible for her children leads her to take them on a road trip to Rome, which only serves to pull her and them further into a labyrinth from which it appears impossible to exit without damage. Well thought out and well written.
SA TAYLORReviewed in the United Kingdom on October 1, 20155.0 out of 5 stars This is an amazing book brilliantly capturing the fear and confusion of living ...
This is an amazing book brilliantly capturing the fear and confusion of living with parent with psychological issues. Had me holding my breath. Very powerful...
BobbieReviewed in the United Kingdom on December 28, 20124.0 out of 5 stars an authentic 9-year-old voice in a world that is not what it seems
Nine-year-old Lawrence and his three-year-old sister Jemima are on the run with their mother from their stalker father. Full of mum's old friends, Rome seems set to be a great adventure, but all is not what it seems.
N.B. Don't read the review excerpts on the first page because they contain spoilers.
The child's voice relating his disturbing world reminded me strongly of Emma Donoghue's The Room. I preferred this to The Room, because I liked Lawrence so very much - authentically nine, interested in black holes, Roman emperors, a cardboard fort and Hermann, his hamster, but having to protect his mother and sister in a fast-changing, threatening world he can barely make sense of. I was gripped throughout.
wendyReviewed in the United Kingdom on April 1, 20182.0 out of 5 stars Two Stars
Loved English Passengers so tried this but was disappointed.






