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Whistler Pro-78SE High-Performance Radar Detector
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- Enhanced High Performance!
- Detects Laser Atlanta Stealth Mode
- Three (3) Filter Modes Provides extra filtering
- INTELLICORD Ready - Program which features INTELLICORD controls
- Vehicle Battery Saver - selectable
- Total Band protection with selectable bands
- Exclusive twin alert periscopes
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The pro-78se:enhanced high performance!detects laser atlanta stealth modeka max mode - - improved ka band sensitivityexclusive radar signature id - rsid - displays known ka gun frequenciesexclusive laser signature id - lsid - displays pulses per second (pps)of the received laser signalthree (3) filter modes provides extra filteringauto dim modeblue text displayintellicord ready - program which features intellicord controlsreal voice alerts - selectablepatented pop mode detectionexclusive low profile alert periscopestotal band protection - selectable360° maxx coverage 3 city modes/highway modehigh gain lensstay alertdim modesquiet/auto quiet modesalert prioritysetting savervehicle battery saver - selectablesafety warning system - swsincluded accessories: - power cord - direct wire kit - windshield mount - dash pad
Amazon.com Product Description Whistler's Pro-78SE is a detector that maximizes sensitivity and minimizes falsing. Ka Max Mode gives you improved Ka Band sensitivity. Radar Signature ID displays known Ka gun frequencies to help distinguish threats, and Laser Signature ID does the same by displaying pulses per second of received laser signals. Take advantage of 360-degree coverage for all radar and laser bands, Whistler's patented POP-mode detection, and a wealth of other features in this compact detector.
The Pro-78SE maximizes sensitivity and minimizes falsing. Click to enlarge.
Blue Text Display
The brilliant blue text display provides distinct visual confirmation of signals detected, signal strength, and indicates engaged modes of operation.
There are times when a radar detector can emit the same frequency as police radar and can cause your detector to falsely alarm. Sometimes a detector can display a signal when picking up another radar detector in vehicle close by. The Whistler Filter Mode checks the signal to verify if it's a legitimate police radar or a false alert from another detector.
Auto Dim Mode
The Auto Dim feature automatically switches the illumination of the text display between the bright and dim settings according to varying light conditions so that the text display will always be easy to read.
Add the Whistler INTELLICORD and you'll be able to remotely control the radar detector in settings such as power on/off, city modes, dim/dark and quiet/auto quiet with a simple press of a button.
Real Voice Alerts
Real Voice provides added information to the detected signal over and above the simple band ID tones from internal speaker. Click to enlarge.
Add the Whistler INTELLICORD for remote control of radar detector settings. Click to enlarge.
- Band Identification
- Safety Warning System messages
- Feature Selection
Low Profile Alert Periscopes
Whistler's Low Profile Alert Periscopes provide an added attention getting visual alert. The two extra LEDs flash on and off when the unit alarms to provide a unique visual alert.
3 City Modes/Highway Mode
Highway mode provides full audio and visual warning of laser/radar systems while maintaining full sensitivity. Highway mode is the default setting of all Whistler's laser/radar detectors. City mode helps reduce the annoyance of automatic door openers and burglar alarm alerts by providing an initial alert (same distance as Highway Mode) then remaining quiet unless the signal strength becomes very strong. When the signal increases the unit will alert briefly to notify you of the change in signal strength.
The Stay Alert feature is designed to test a driver's alertness. Within 30 to 60 seconds after the feature is engaged an alert is sounded; to show alertness, the driver must press the volume, city or the mute button within 3-5 seconds. If a button is pressed within 3-5 seconds, the cycle is repeated. If a button was not pressed within 3-5 seconds the unit alarms at full volume and the display shows an unique visual alert.
Quiet/Auto Quiet Modes
Pressing QUIET before a signal is detected engages Auto Quiet Mode, which automatically reduces the audio level after the initial warning to a low audio level setting. Pressing QUIET during a radar/laser encounter silences audio alerts, while allowing visual alerts to keep you informed.
When two or more signals are received at the same time, the alert priority is: Laser, VG-2, Speed Radar, Safety Radar.
Example: If X band is alerting, then suddenly a VG-2 signal is detected, the VG-2 warning will override the X band alert.
Vehicle Battery Saver Mode
The Vehicle Battery Saver Mode automatically shuts off your detector within 3 hours if you forget to turn it off. The timer is reset if the detector is turned off, unplugged or any button is pressed before the 6 hours have expired. The detector will alert you with an audible and visual warning before it shuts off.
Safety Warning System--SWS
This relatively new radar is not for speed detection at all, it is used to keep you informed of highway safety. Transmitters are installed and programmed (for example: in emergency vehicles) to make you aware of possible situations that may require your attention, such as: ambulance vehicles that are moving or stationary, road hazards ahead, road construction delays or detours, etc.
What's in the Box
Whistler PRO-78 SE, Power Cord, Direct Wire Kit, Windshield Mount, Dash Pad, User's Manual
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The timing of this could not have been better as my wife and I went on a business trip to southern California, affording me the opportunity to put the new Whistler Pro-78SE through its paces, in what I have come to regard as one of the more challenging areas in North America to drive with a radar detector.
So, what are these improvements, you might be asking yourself?
Well, for starters, I am thrilled to report that those annoying Ka9 falses that some Whistler owners have been complaining about over the past several years seem to have finally been excised.
It was only when a good Samaritan West coast forum member [named Freebird] and myself volunteered our time to explore the greater Los Angeles area, last year, in our vehicles and armed with specially modified detectors, that the sources of this interference were ultimately identified. Our collective feedback enabled Whistler's engineering team to address the issue.
As it turned out, many of these newly identified RF sources were wreaking havoc within certain Whistler models (and potentially other brands as well). Even though certain Whistlers alerted with urgent levels of Ka, the frequency interference did not actually occur within the Ka-band.
It is very important to note that during which time the effected Whistlers were being interfered, they would not necessarily alert with a Ka9 false, however their reception performance to genuine Ka-band was adversely affected, sometimes substantially so.
It is this dynamic that caused the apparent discrepancies in performance that were observable to those driving in the afflicted areas. This was in stark contrast to the high performance levels that I had experienced on my driving routes, since my models were not inhibited by those sources of interference.
I am pleased to report that during my recent travels to both San Diego and Los Angeles, Whistler was ultimately successful in this endeavor. While this type of interference seems to have occurred in specific areas, those affected will greatly appreciate the modification, as they will now be able to experience the Whistler in a more consistent fashion.
Speaking of Ka-band, reception performance to Ka continues to impressive the heck out of me, particularly with Ka-Max mode setting. Especially now, this mode will be of much higher utility for those who were experiencing the kind of "falsing" mentioned above, since high sensitivity and quick responsiveness now comes without the accompanying headaches.
Whistler also went to great lengths to eliminate more unconventional sources of K-band falsing.
Just as Escort/Beltronics and Valentine Research have developed methods for filtering out traffic flow sensors that are adorning some highways, so too has Whistler with the incorporation of a new filtering mode, called TFSR (traffic flow sensor rejection).
Whistler has informed me that the TFSR feature will also effectively reduce K-band falsing from new crash-avoidance systems of certain German vehicles employing either pulsed or frequency modulated K-band radar.
This is a really welcomed new capability, as having driven behind certain Audis that continue to wreak havoc with other radar detector brands.
In the case of many traffic flow sensors, these pesky devices typically transmit for a duration of approximately 500ms (1/2 second) at intervals of 30 seconds or one minute. The problem is that proximate conventional radar detectors not only repeatedly false to K-band, but they false in a manner that mimics genuine instant-on radar--something that is very disheartening to the unsuspecting motorist.
In my recent travels, I found when Whistler's TFSR filter was enabled, the Pro-78SE effectively eliminated falsing in all but a couple of instances--when I was located in proximity to two sensors that fired in close succession. Fortunately Whistler provides the ability to add a finite amount of additional filtering to TFSR with the selection of the increased FILTER modes. When TFSR and FILTER 1 are enabled together, all falses from these sources appeared to be eliminated.
As with any increase in filtering "delay," one has to consider this double edged sword for the bands affected by such a feature as it can increase the likelihood of ignoring a quick trigger. Such is the case for the TFSR mode in that there is a minimum length of time the X or K band signal needs to be available for qualification in order to ignore the pulsed traffic flow sensors mentioned above. This additional delay appears to be not as long as some other brands offering a "traffic sensor rejection" feature. Ka band is not affected by the TFSR feature. [more on this in a future article]
I have come to really appreciate Whistler's CITY mode. Unlike other detectors, which wean effective reception performance to X-band (and perhaps K-band) when selected, Whistler provides three city modes.
The first mode, doesn't affect apparent sensitivity at all, it merely alters the nature of the detector's alerts. Instead of receiving typical X-band and K-band alert tones, at varying Geiger rates, CITY mode alerts with two quick high-pitched tones and then immediately goes to mute on the alert. If and when the signal strength is high enough, reminder tones will briefly alert. I really came to appreciate this feature driving on the high-density highways of southern California. No more needing to reach over to mute these annoying alerts.
CITY1 mode reduces low level alerts to X-band and CITY2 model eliminates X-band alerts entirely. Think of CITY mode as HIGHWAY mode with alternate alert tone sequences.
The one drawback, in my opinion, is that all radar bands alert in this fashion, including Ka-band. The thinking there was that in high-density areas, there is a greater likelihood to encounter [cheap] radar detectors for extended periods of time [like in heavy traffic] that can cause falsing to Ka-band.
My preference would be for the CITY mode to only affect X-band and K-band, the predominate sources of falsing around town, and reserve Ka-band to the other modes of FILTER1 and FILTER2.
Another area of reception that I would like to see improved, is the rate of falsing to X-band and K-band sourced around town. In an apparent contradiction to itself, even though the sensitivity to both X-band and K-band is less with the Whistlers than higher sensitivity models from Escort and Beltronics, the rate of falsing was greater even when driving with the Escort 8500 X50 Black, in highway mode, in those same areas.
This occurs, I believe, because the Whistlers X and K band coverage is wider than that of the more expensive Escort, Beltronics, and Valentine models causing them to alert to X and K that is just outside of the tolerances otherwise required.
Behold a thing of beauty
The new Whistlers now feature a high-end display. Gone are the LED displays of yesterday. Instead the new Pro-78SE and XTR-690SE now utilize OLEDs and in my opinion, they are the nicest displays that I have yet seen on any dash mount radar detector.
One of the mild criticisms that I have made over the previous years of the blue and red LED displays was the size and appearance of the displays' plastic covers. In my opinion, they were excessive and looked disproportionally large. In their place is a screen that utilizes an anti-reflective coating that when coupled with the OLED screen makes for the most impressive viewing experience ever.
Even in direct sunlight, the display was easily readable and in the evening, the aquamarine-blue pixels were very easy on the eyes, unlike the displays of blue LEDs. You've got to see it to really appreciate it. The text is quite large too, making it very easy to read, even for my aging eyes. I expect the XTR-690SE to be equally impressive in RED.
I can only speculate that a multi-colored OLED display is in Whistler's future. In my opinion, this would be a welcome addition line and something that I have been wishing for a good number of years.
Don't expect to see any price increases for all of these improvements. Expectations are that these new models should begin shipping in the coming weeks.
For those interested in getting high-performance on a budget, these two new Whistlers are made to order and come very highly recommended.
Happy and Safe Motoring!
I enjoy the voice alerts, it's useful to not always have to take your eyes off the road and still be able to tell what band the detector is picking up. Other people have really enjoyed the blue LED "periscopes" on top of the detector, that blink when it is alerting, but I have it mounted high on the windshield near the rear view mirror, so I do not really see the blinking LED lights.
EDIT: After driving with this detector for over a year, I have become very comfortable in its abilities to give good warning on K band in nearly all conditions ( I regularly drive on windy rural roads and picking up a K-band constant-on around a curve or two is normal) and when it isn't giving false Ka band alerts it gives GREAT Ka band detection in all modes. I leave it in Ka RSID (Radar Signature I.D.) I don't usually have it in Ka Max mode because of the falses. After a bit of research and plenty of hours driving with it, most of the Ka false alerts have been on the highway in heavy traffic, I now believe that it was alerting because of leaky low-end (e.g. Cobra) detectors in the vehicles around me. This theory makes sense and is consistent with others' findings and experiences throughout the many forums and boards I have visited.
Things I like/dislike after experience with another radar detector (Bel rx65):
-- the blue display is generally better than the red display, although the red is readable in almost any lighting condition whereas the blue kind of washes out in strong sunlight.
--automatic brightness. I never even thought about it till I had to start manually cycling the brightness on the RX65.
--Good voice alerts, very clear even with loud music. It begins the alert by announcing verbally what band it's detecting, then proceeds with the beeps/chirps. my RX65 has creepy male-voice band alerts that are hard to distinguish.
--black casing, has very little reflection onto the windshield, and doesn't look gimmicky or cheap. the RX65 does feel a little more solid and hefty though.
--detection range not on par with the RX65 (no-brainer, look at the price difference, must be for a reason) for K-band on the Whistler i'm used to about 3-7 seconds of notice. For the RX65, it picked it up so far off I thought it was falsing.
--It has a little more chatty nature than the Bel. They both light up when I pass the local gas station that uses a k-band door opener but other than that the RX65 has better filtering.
--Both times I have been clocked with laser, it has actually alerted, with pretty good range (yes I know the cop already had my speed but it picked it up probably 500ft off.) only going 45mph that's pretty decent I think.
Overall I am still very happy with this detector, It's pretty easy to live with when you turn POP off, and put Ka in normal or RSID mode. Here are the settings I use: Filter 1 mode (it's actually the 2nd filter setting, somewhat confusing), X- off, K- on, Ka-RSID, POP-off, Laser-LSID (laser signature I.D.), SWS-off, battery saver-off, voice alerts-on, periscope blinking-on.
If you're looking for a radar detector, and you've even considered a Cobra or similar detector, save your money and spring for this (or the Bel, which I prefer for its superior detection range and more quiet nature) depending on where you live, the first time this detects radar, and you're 5-10+ over the speed limit, I'd consider this investment already paid off.