Yamaha P Series P105B 88-Key Digital Piano
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- PureCF-sampled piano: Sampled from Yamaha's own acclaimed CFIII concert grand
- Pianist styles: This built-In duet partner plays along with you in one of ten different playing styles.
- Built-In drum patterns: Basic drum patterns put the "fun" back into practicing and is a practical alternative to a metronome. Or turn your solo act into a two piece band where the drummer is always on time.
- 88-note, weighted GHS action: Heavier touch in the low end and lighter in the highs, just like an acoustic piano
- 128-note polyphony: Even when using dual Voice and split mode with a drum pattern, 128-note polyphony ensures every note gets heard.
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Need a grand piano you can stuff in a Civic? The Yamaha P-105 digital piano fits the bill perfectly. Loaded with the powerful PureCF sound engine, the P-105 gives you the spot-on sound of the Yamaha world-famous CFIIIS concert grand - the same piano you'll find in some of the biggest venues on earth. When you hear this piano come to life though the P-105's fantastic 2-way stereo system, you'll be absolutely blown away. What's more, built-in speakers mean you can leave your bulky speakers at home, making the P-105 a gigging piano player's best friend.
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So that you know where I'm coming from: I've been playing professionally for 35 years, on acoustic grands, and on digital pianos. I require decent weighted action, 88 keys, and authentic piano sound. Aside from a couple of good electric piano voices, I use my stage piano for piano only. I have a separate synth for everything else. Currently my stage piano is a Yamaha CP33. Like all excellent digital pianos, the CP33 is heavy (40 lbs), so I've been shopping for something lighter. Hence, my experience with the Yamaha P-105 and the Casio PX150.
Assuming similar lasting durability, either piano will serve you well. They both sound and feel very good. You've heard that from half a dozen reviews, so here are more specific impressions.
Right off, let me tell you that if you intend to use the onboard speakers, don't waste your time with the Casio. Its speaker system does not compare to the Yamaha's. The Yami's speakers are not superb, but they are acceptable, and I would consider playing the P-105 through its speakers as a soloist in a small venue. The Casio would require a separate speaker system. Even at home I could not live with the Casio's onboard speaker system.
Since most serious stage pianists use separate speaker systems anyway, the important thing is the quality of the piano sound itself. Through headphones both pianos are very close in quality. The only difference that bothered me was that, when I played fast chromatic runs in the midrange, between C4 and G5, the Casio took on a strange rubbery sound. i don't know how else to explain it. It's not detectable when listening through its speakers, so I wonder if it can be heard through a good sound system. It would be a deal breaker. For now, I certainly trust the headphones over the onboard speakers.
I won't go into number and quality of other voices, because they are good on both models, and you can read about them elsewhere.
The Casio's key tops have a texture to them that you may find pleasing. It's interesting, but honestly, I don't think it would make a bit of difference to me during performance. If you have a problem with finger slippage due to perspiration, you might appreciate this texture. I would tend to shy away from it, because I also play acoustic pianos, so it doesn't make sense to get accustomed to something so novel.
Both are delightfully light for weighted action boards. The Casio is 24 lbs, the Yami 26. With a 4-lb case I would be carrying 30 lbs instead of my current board-in-case weight of 54!
When I get the chance to play both models through a decent sound system I will update my review.
So, I would call it a tie, even with the Yami costing $100 more, because, even though I don't use onboard speakers often, it's worth the extra bucks having the option. Action and sound are comparable, except for the rubbery sound I heard with the Casio, which I will have to test for with a sound system.
Update July 2014: I purchased a Yamaha P-105 because it's 14 pounds lighter than my CP33. I set the two of them up, in stereo, with two JBL 12" EONs.
Piano sound: Right off I could tell the sound of the P-105 is not quite up to par with the CP33. They are close enough that others may find them comparable, but to me it's a safe $10 bet that most experienced players will prefer the CP33. Having said that, I'm going to try the P-105 on stage. My hope is that it will shine on its own, out from the shadow of its older brother.
The CP tone is cleaner, not as mid-range heavy, although it seems to have a harshness in the upper-middle range that the P does not, at least on my JBLs. But the CP has more tone options, the mellower of which don't have the harshness.
Action: The action of the two boards is so similar that, although the CP33 has a more quality feel, the difference, to me, is negligible.
Voices: The P has 14, the CP has 28, although some of them are variations rather than completely different voices. LIke the pianos, the other sounds are a notch above in quality on the CP33.
Speakers: The CP has none. The P's speakers are adequate, but won't stand up to the better Clavinovas.
The main reason I bought this was to begin the transition from studying piano on a synth keyboard (Yamaha MM6, typical light synth action) to studying on a weighted keyboard that simulates a real piano. This most certainly simulates a real piano. It does, however, have limitations. The main one for me is the position of the "fulcrum" or pivot point of the key. It is right near the visible end of the key. This means that if you have long fingers (I do) or you need to move up on the keys, you'll find that they are difficult to press. It's not a big deal, but something to consider. The sound quality is good. I can hear some subtle problems with the samples, but at this price point, it's fine. There are times when I'm playing and I'm fooled into thinking I'm playing a real piano. The four electric piano samples are really good if you are into that. There's a DX Rhodes sound and a Fender Rhodes that are quite good.
The extra weight is a huge difference so I've been spending just 15 minutes a day on it to avoid injury. I'll be increasing that gradually as time goes by.
For my needs (transitioning from synth action to piano action) this is perfect. Especially for the price.
Update 6/30/2013: To whomever said this piano's action is stiff, try turning up the volume. Seriously. I just figured this out the hard way. Turn the volume up and you'll play more softly. Turn the volume down and you play harder which will cause fatigue which will make the keyboard feel quite stiff. You'll need to find the right volume for you. For me, setting the metronome to volume 5 is a better reference point than 7 which is the default. Be sure to experiment with the feel and the volume to get the right balance for you. The touch sensitivity setting might help too.
Update 1/1/2015: I've been playing this daily for a year now, and I definitely recommend it for beginners. The price is right, and it will serve you well for two or more years. I've been shopping around for another digital piano for our living room, so I've had a chance to do some comparisons. The Yamaha Clavinovas are very heavy and stiff in the bass. The Rolands are pretty good. But in the end, I decided on a Kawai. Their "GF" action feels very close to a real grand piano. It's really important to study for a couple of years, then go out and try some pianos to get a feel for the differences.
For students I would suggest putting the volume to max and learn to tame it from there.
There is also the plus of not needing to have this thing tuned 4 times per year and it would be impossible to put my Steinway in the back seat of a car.
If you can afford a Steinway and if you can afford to make the noise of a Steinway, for gods sake get a Steinway, but this model, while not perfect, is far superior to a cheap acoustic.
Ten years ago, I never would have dreamed that I would be recommending a digital piano.
One added bonus is that this thing is a dream to record with----ever try mic-ing an acoustic.