WHAT IS IT? - PRO8AB is a dual channel battery operated muscle stimulation system that helps to relieve minor muscle aches and pains. This tens unit is not only the best PAIN RELIEF device by blocking the pain signal from nerves, but also can help toning, firming and improving the strength of the gluteal muscles by using Mode 7 (Body Building). HealthmateForever tens unit is the best PAIN RELIEF device by blocking the pain signal from nerves.
FEATURES - 8 preprogrammed massage like modes is in a rectangle design: Tuina (Push & Pull), Acupuncture, Tapping, Guasha (Scraping), Cupping, Body Building, Body Building2, and Combination; Adjustable 10-60 minute timer by pressing the T button; 2 outputs allow 4 pads to be applied to the two different targeted areas at the same time; Rechargeable internal lithium battery - up to 10 hours of continuous use; Easy to read animated large backlit LCD display.
FEATURES - 2 outputs are isolated, so both channel A and channel B has the same 100% power, without reducing strength in half, press the center button (A/B channel shift key) to select channel A or B; 20 levels of adjustable intensity (strength) in channel A or channel B, you can use “+” button to increase intensity (strength) or “-”button to decrease intensity (strength) of mode.
EFFECTIVE - The advanced technology sends out multiple preset electrical therapeutic waves through the electrodes. These waves stimulate the combination of deep tissue pain relief techniques and various muscle movements, relieving muscle tension; this unit is portable, you can stimulate your nerves and muscles and relax your body-anytime anywhere; completely drug-free; the large LCD display with new featured backlight shows you at a glance exactly what you need for your targeted mode.
WHY CHOOSE US? - HealthmateForever is the #1 brand for the pain relief device, which has exceed 50 kinds of Tens Unit on Amazon; More than 10 thousand 5 stars customer reviews in all on Amazon; High quality - doctor recommended; Portable and easy to use; 100 percent drug-free; Safe and effective for home use (FDA cleared & Lifetime Warranty).
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Included in this package:1 HealthmateForever Pro8AB electroTherapy device (combined TENS unit and Muscle Stimulator); 2 Pairs of snap-on adhesive electrode pads 2 1/2 inches; 2 Electrode leads; 1 USB extension wire, charging from computer; 1 AC adapter (international travel charger; 110V-240V), charging from wall outlet; 1 Pads sticking and wire rewinding holder; 1 Instruction manual;
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I bought this because both my husband and I have a lot of shoulder pain, back pain, and muscle tension.
PROS: - comes in a hard cardboard storage box with magnetized lid and a cord wrap for storage - the electrode pads are really sticky (which is a good thing), no need for any extra gel, and are also reuseable - has 2 different frequency channels (A and B) meaning you can have a different strength for the one pair of pads and another strength for the other two pads - plug it into the wall for charging the lithium battery.. yes!!! no buying lots and lots of batteries. It doesn't need to be plugged in for use, but you can use it while it's plugged in, and the battery lasts long between charges. - 8 different modes (the acupunture mode really does feel like your being poked with needles or flicked with rubber bands, the other modes feel more like... vibrations) - comes with a lifetime guarantee
MY NOTES: - extra/replacement pads from the same company are a little expensive, but you don't HAVE to use those.. my husband bought these pads 40 2"X 2" Reusable, Self Stick, Tyco gel - Carbon Electrodes - Satisfaction Guaranteed and these 2 sets of these snap to pin adapters ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009DM5SD0/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) for those pads. These electrodes are not as nice as the healthmate forever electrodes, they are a little thinner and not as sticky; but are also reuseable. Since they are sooooo much cheaper I would repurchase them.
- it's called a massager but don't expect it to feel like your at the spa or sitting in one of those massage chairs... there is no kneading action... it works by stimulating your nerves and causes muscle contractions... I'm not a physical therapist so I can't explain how it works to relieve muscle tension... but it does work. Also, it can cause STRONG muscle contractions. My husband was skeptical at first. He looked at the tiny little machine and said "are you sure it's strong enough?" He can only go up to the third or fourth setting, yes it's strong enough.
CONCLUSION: Both my husband and I LOVE using this.. I got this pro 8 model, the MID PRICED model ( http://www.amazon.com/cleared-HealthmateForever-massager-physiotherapy-device/dp/B00AN8UOSC/ref=sr_1_1?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1371654493&sr=1-1&keywords=healthmateforever) AND the LEAST EXPENSIVE model (http://www.amazon.com/HealthmateForever-electrotherapy-transportation-inflammatory-anti-inflammation/dp/B00BTD5Y9E/ref=sr_1_3?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1371653940&sr=1-3&keywords= ) for my father and he said the cheaper one came in a cheap crumpled box and looks like it won't last very long and he likes the pro 8 better. But the mid-priced model had more pads (I don't think it has the 2 channel control).
Obviously we love these tens machines (I also bought one for my father in law) :) I HIGHLY RECOMMEND this if you have tense muscles and back pain and is worth the price.
I had a Roscoe Medical Select Combo II which broke after 8 months, and while waiting for a replacement, I bought this device. It does some things great, but has other flaws. I looked at these two TENS units because they had several features that I needed. I have back shoulder pain in multiple locations, and I wear a TENS unit 8+ hours a day, so I needed something small, with a rechargeable battery that would last the day. I also wanted something with many settings, since (as I found out) different types of pain (muscular, nerve) at different locations in your body need different settings. In fact, the first time I used a TENS unit, it took 4 days before I found the correct settings and locations of the pads on my body that worked for my pain. This probably isn't as important for people who are looking for massages, but it does matter for pain relief.
PROS: Size: The Pro8AB is very small. Can fit in your pocket and not create a bulge. The Select Combo II is over twice as thick. and very bulky. The Pro8AB doesn't have a belt clip but you don't need one. The Select Combo II does have a belt clip that you can remove.
Ease of use: Both have there quirks. The select combo II will allow you to turn on the TENS unit for sessions of up to 90 minutes. And when it turns off and you turn it back on, its already set for 90 minutes, so you just need to press start to begin again. The Pro8AB only allows settings as long as 60 minutes, and every time the device shuts off, it resets to a 10 minute default.
Also, the Pro8AB has power levels from 1 to 20 (i believe) where the select combo II goes from 1 to 99. And for the Pro8AB, I only use a level of 3-5 (I'm a thin person). Don't know who would use the high settings, but this configuration prevents you from really tuning in the power level. On the select combo II I would usually use around a 24, and I could estimate my pain level on a day to day basis by seeing what level I had to turn the TENS unit on to eliminate the pain. This is a big negative for the Pro8AB
The Pro8AB is much easier to use, (buttons much more self explanatory) but it has less features. It doesn't even have a pause feature- if you need to pause it, you have to drop the power level down.
Documentation: Big plus for the select combo II. It actually has a booklet, and recommends different settings for different conditions. The Pro8AB has no documentation. Even online the documentation is just one table.
Noise: Sounds picky, but the Select Combo II makes a beep every time you press a button. Sucks if you are resetting your device during a meeting and people think you are making a phone call. The Pro8AB is silent. Also, if on Select Combo II, if you lose connection with one of your electrodes (it falls off or gets snagged), it starts beeping like crazy. Hey, I know it came off, you don't have to let everyone in the office know as well. The Pro8AB is, again, silent. Big advantage for the ProAB
Battery: I don't think either can operate while being charged. I charge them overnight and use them 4-6 hours a day, and they both make it before the battery drains. However, the Select Combo II seems to have an accurate battery meter. The Pro8AB will drop from full power to half power after 45 minutes, and then drop down to 1 bar an hour later. And then it will be back to 3/4 power again. So I don't know if it has a smaller battery or just an inaccurate power meter, but I don't trust it lasting throughout the day.
Modes: These two devices are very different here. The Select Combo II has 2 settings for each type of stimulation (TENS, NMES, IF, RUSS) for each body part (head, back, hand, shoulder, knee, foot), or 48 total, plus the ability to make custom modes. This is really set up for pain relief or to enhance an exercise regimen. The Pro8AB has 8 different "massage options"- like Tuina (no explanation given), cupping, tapping, accupunture, bodybuilding, weightloss, etc) I do not even know if these are true TENS stimulations (TENS stimulate nerves, NMES stimulate muscles), since my muscles were very sore the day after I first used it, which would indicate that its doing muscle stimulation). The good news is that a few of these modes worked for me. But if you do not know what will work for you, the options of the Select Combo II are very nice.
Independent control of the A and B channel: This is a feature the Pro8AB says it has- where you can control the mode of the A and B channel separately. This is nice if you shoulder hurts and your lower back hurts, and they respond to different types of stimulation. Well, it doesn't do this on mine- don't know if its broken or just misleading documentation. The Select Combo II doesn't have this feature, but doesn't claim this feature either. Both allow independent control of intensity for A and B.
Pads: Originally I got the Select combo II because it uses a type of pad where the pad and connector attach by way of a tight fitting pin/sleeve, which is the more generic (cheaper) method. These are cheaper than the snap fittings that the Pro8AB uses, and they also fit more flush to the skin (the Pro8AB snaps cause bulges on my shirt. I have come to not mind paying for the more expensive snap pads from Healthmate forever because I have started to get an allergic reaction to some of the adhesives used on the pads, and the pads made by healthmate forever do not seem to cause that problem.
That was a long comparison. In conclusions, these two devices are made for two different people. the Pro8AB is really made for massaging, though this might still help whatever ailment you have, as it did mine. The Select Combo II has a pretty specific program for your exact need, which is useful if you don't really know what you problem is. The Pro8Ab is much easier to carry around everyday. Now having both, I use the Pro8AB. I am planning on contacting the company to see why the A and B channels are not independent though. But face it, all consumer TENS units are built cheaply (even if its a US company importing and selling them), and I don't expect any of them to last you a lifetime.
Update: Its been 6 months since I have gotten this device, and its broken now. A few months ago, the A channel (it has two channels to operate two sets of electrodes) started to random stimulations instead of the prescribed routine, and could be somewhat painful so I stopped using that channel and switched to the B channel. Now thats channel is broken as well.
So in 6 months this probably the 5th defect I have found. Out of the box, I could not control the A and B channels independently. Then the battery indicator would show almost no battery life, even though it would stll last all day. Then the on/off switch stopped working, and I had to slide the switch to a very precise position to get the device to turn on. And then the A channel and B channel stopped working.
I contacted the warranty department some time ago, before the channels started failing. They tried to convince me that there was no problem. When I couldn't take that as an answer, they told me that they would not mail me a replacement, I would have to mail in my unit and wait for a repair. This is in contrast to what Roscoe does, and I did not want to be without my unit for a month, so I did not send it in. The warrenty is crap anyway.
I tried several other, cheaper, devices by HealthmateForever, They kept failing wthin the first week. I hate to give this company or this product any recommendation. If size is not a problem, the Roscoe unit is very nice. Only get this device if you are okay with it failing in 6 months.
This is the best thing I ever did for my back. I could not sleep at night. After using the Pro-8ab electrotherapy device my back relaxed. It was like magic. However I would not order the HealthmateForever long life Combo Replacement Massage Electrode Pads/Patches along with the unit. These are very Low quality pads. They will conduct the essential voltage. However the fall apart easily. Do not anticipate using any of these pads more than once.