There's no point in reviewing the Republic, giving it 5 stars would only prove that i'm not an idiot and giving it any less would only prove that i AM an idiot (for the record, i would give it 5). However, translation is crucial when dealing with philosophy that was written in other languages and in other times and edition is also very important, so that is what i intend to review. Bloom's translation of The Republic is great. it gets 5 stars no problem..... But i have a couple little quibbles with the edition:
1. the notes are at the end instead of on the page. Now i grant that it would have been difficult to put them at the foot since some of them are quite long but its still a pain to have to flip back and forth constantly. its also somewhat helpful to have them all in one place since they are cross referenced so that when it says "Cf. note 35" or something it isn't as difficult to find it as it might have been if they were scattered throughout the text. All in all the cross-referencing is quite helpful, but that brings me to quibble number...
2. the numbering of the notes starts over in each book, but the cross-referencing just gives a number, so when it says "Cf. note 35" it might be talking about Book I's note 35 or Book 3's or... etc. this becomes more frustrating as you go along, since you have to go back and check as many books as you've already read to figure out which note and passage makes the most sense to compare with the one in question. It seems to me that this could be fixed so easily that its almost unreasonable that it hasn't been, especially in a second edition. all they'd have to do would be to change "Cf. note 35" to "Cf. note III.35" or "Cf. note I.35". So if Basic is paying attention, that's what would make this a perfect edition.
All in all, given that we live in the Cave, this edition is as close as we will get to The Form of The Republic.
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The Republic of Plato: Second Edition Paperback – Unabridged, October 3, 1991
by
Plato
(Author),
Allan Bloom
(Translator)
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Long regarded as the most accurate rendering of Plato's Republic that has yet been published, this widely acclaimed work is the first strictly literal translation of a timeless classic. This second edition includes a new introduction by Professor Bloom, whose careful translation and interpretation of The Republic was first published in 1968. In addition to the corrected text itself there is also a rich and valuable essayas well as indexeswhich will better enable the reader to approach the heart of Plato's intention.
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Allan Bloom is professor of social thought at the University of Chicago. The author of many books, including The Closing of the American Mind, he is also the translator of Rousseau's Emile (Basic Books, 1979).
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Plato's Republic is a book that will change an individual's understanding and approach to life. This is one of those books that you hear about, usually in your High School years and may be smart enough to pick up and attempt to read on you own or may always pass it up because of the belief that the contents are too esoteric. This is anything but true. This is one of the greatest books ever written!
Yes, it will be more challenging than reading the daily newspaper or the latest Twilight book. The major difference is that a newspaper keeps you informed and the Twilight series allows you to escape. The Republic will make you search inside of your own mind it will make you think and reflect, you will be a different person if you take the time to work through it. It should strike people as interesting that a book written so long ago can and does carry so much weight today. This is the beauty of the Republic.
I have noticed that some of the negative remarks of the book deal with the translation and not the actual book. I must declare ignorance as far as the worthiness of the translation. All I can say about the translation is that when we read this in school, this was the text that our professor told us we needed to have because of the translation. I found it to have a nice flow to it, but, having not read other versions and not being versed on Classic Greek, all I can say is that it worked for us in the class.
Do your self a favor and pick up this book. You will be challenged but never disappointed.
Yes, it will be more challenging than reading the daily newspaper or the latest Twilight book. The major difference is that a newspaper keeps you informed and the Twilight series allows you to escape. The Republic will make you search inside of your own mind it will make you think and reflect, you will be a different person if you take the time to work through it. It should strike people as interesting that a book written so long ago can and does carry so much weight today. This is the beauty of the Republic.
I have noticed that some of the negative remarks of the book deal with the translation and not the actual book. I must declare ignorance as far as the worthiness of the translation. All I can say about the translation is that when we read this in school, this was the text that our professor told us we needed to have because of the translation. I found it to have a nice flow to it, but, having not read other versions and not being versed on Classic Greek, all I can say is that it worked for us in the class.
Do your self a favor and pick up this book. You will be challenged but never disappointed.
Reviewed in the United States on April 11, 2016
Review of: "The Republic of Plato, translated by Professor Allan Bloom."
In his translation of Plato's Republic, Professor Bloom used the Oxford text of the Republic (edited by John Burnet) and deviated from that text "only rarely and in the important instances have made mention of it in the notes," thus creating what has been heralded as one of the most accurate renderings of the translation which is also the first strictly literal one as well. Synopsis: In The Republic, Plato, speaking through his teacher Socrates, sets out to answer two questions: First, What is justice? and Second, Why should we be just? Book I sets up these challenges. The conversationalists then engage in a Socratic dialogue similar to that found in Plato’s earlier works (such as Protagoras and Lysis). While among a group of both friends and enemies, Socrates then poses the question, “What is justice?” He proceeds to refute every suggestion offered, showing how each harbors hidden contradictions. Yet he offers no definition of his own, and the discussion ends in aporia, a deadlock, where no further progress is possible and the conversationalists feel less sure of their beliefs than they had at the start of the conversation. In Plato’s early dialogues, aporia usually spells the end. The Republic moves beyond this deadlock. Nine more books follow upon which Socrates develops a rich and complex theory of justice. Bloom's work is exceptional. Five stars without reservation.
In his translation of Plato's Republic, Professor Bloom used the Oxford text of the Republic (edited by John Burnet) and deviated from that text "only rarely and in the important instances have made mention of it in the notes," thus creating what has been heralded as one of the most accurate renderings of the translation which is also the first strictly literal one as well. Synopsis: In The Republic, Plato, speaking through his teacher Socrates, sets out to answer two questions: First, What is justice? and Second, Why should we be just? Book I sets up these challenges. The conversationalists then engage in a Socratic dialogue similar to that found in Plato’s earlier works (such as Protagoras and Lysis). While among a group of both friends and enemies, Socrates then poses the question, “What is justice?” He proceeds to refute every suggestion offered, showing how each harbors hidden contradictions. Yet he offers no definition of his own, and the discussion ends in aporia, a deadlock, where no further progress is possible and the conversationalists feel less sure of their beliefs than they had at the start of the conversation. In Plato’s early dialogues, aporia usually spells the end. The Republic moves beyond this deadlock. Nine more books follow upon which Socrates develops a rich and complex theory of justice. Bloom's work is exceptional. Five stars without reservation.
Reviewed in the United States on December 25, 2014
It took me four months to read every word of this book, but I am glad I did. Plato's Republic is 2400 years old, so obviously it would be foolish of me to give it a rating. As for Bloom's rendering of the classic, Bloom's translation has been highly revered for a long time, and for good reason. I don't speak Greek, so Bloom's helpful notes on the language are very welcome. Bloom points out things like rhyming, similar sounding words, puns, etc. To help you get a sense of the banter on the original. I read this on kindle, and the ease of clicking back and forth from the text to the notes makes the experience far better than reading the hard copy, IMHO. The best part of this book is Bloom's analysis after the text, which I was at first tempted to skip. Bloom does a very good job of teasing out all of the salient points of the work, and led me to develop a much greater appreciation for what is going on in Plato's work. I would have completely missed how Thrasymachus operates as an allegory, for instance, and just thought he was a jerk with a somewhat relevant point, which is too easily dismissed, to name just one example.
This translation and commentary are highly recommended.
This translation and commentary are highly recommended.
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Republic comes alive
Reviewed in Canada on September 1, 2015
This is different from some other versions of Republic, and somehow reads more easily. I prefer this to most others, except the Cambridge text, with which it is on a par. Reading this translation (or is it the typeset?) it feels as if I am actually watching Socrates.
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Plato's Republic : a literal translation
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on December 19, 2015
I found the Preface which explained the benefits of a literal translation a rewarding read.The translation itself proved most useful.
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Loved It!
Reviewed in Canada on August 26, 2016
Superb book by one of the greatest philosophers to have ever lived!
Michael H.
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Doing justice to Plato's Greek.
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on June 26, 2016
This is the best translation of Plato's masterpiece currently available.
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Reviewed in Canada on September 9, 2017
Absolutely essential reading.
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