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The companion volume to 12 Rules for Life offers further guidance on the perilous path of modern life.
In 12 Rules for Life, clinical psychologist and celebrated professor at Harvard and the University of Toronto Dr. Jordan B. Peterson helped millions of readers impose order on the chaos of their lives. Now, in this bold sequel, Peterson delivers twelve more lifesaving principles for resisting the exhausting toll that our desire to order the world inevitably takes.
In a time when the human will increasingly imposes itself over every sphere of life—from our social structures to our emotional states—Peterson warns that too much security is dangerous. What’s more, he offers strategies for overcoming the cultural, scientific, and psychological forces causing us to tend toward tyranny, and teaches us how to rely instead on our instinct to find meaning and purpose, even—and especially—when we find ourselves powerless.
While chaos, in excess, threatens us with instability and anxiety, unchecked order can petrify us into submission. Beyond Order provides a call to balance these two fundamental principles of reality itself, and guides us along the straight and narrow path that divides them.
In 12 Rules for Life, clinical psychologist and celebrated professor at Harvard and the University of Toronto Dr. Jordan B. Peterson helped millions of readers impose order on the chaos of their lives. Now, in this bold sequel, Peterson delivers twelve more lifesaving principles for resisting the exhausting toll that our desire to order the world inevitably takes.
In a time when the human will increasingly imposes itself over every sphere of life—from our social structures to our emotional states—Peterson warns that too much security is dangerous. What’s more, he offers strategies for overcoming the cultural, scientific, and psychological forces causing us to tend toward tyranny, and teaches us how to rely instead on our instinct to find meaning and purpose, even—and especially—when we find ourselves powerless.
While chaos, in excess, threatens us with instability and anxiety, unchecked order can petrify us into submission. Beyond Order provides a call to balance these two fundamental principles of reality itself, and guides us along the straight and narrow path that divides them.
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PRAISE FOR JORDAN PETERSON
“We live in a time when so many young (and not so young) people feel lost . . . Mr. Peterson talks about the attitudes that will help find the path. It is not a politically correct or officially approved path, but it is an intensely practical and yet heightened one: This life you’re living has meaning.”
—PEGGY NOONAN, Wall Street Journal
“Jordan Peterson is universally revered—and feared—for his incredible intellect and emotional insight.”
—DAVE RUBIN, host of The Rubin Report and author of Don’t Burn This Book
“The Peterson way is a harsh way, but it is an idealistic way—and for millions of young men, it turns out to be the perfect antidote to the cocktail of coddling and accusation in which they are raised.”
—DAVID BROOKS, New York Times
“The world needs Jordan Peterson.”
—DOUGLAS MURRAY, author of The Madness of Crowds
“We live in a time when so many young (and not so young) people feel lost . . . Mr. Peterson talks about the attitudes that will help find the path. It is not a politically correct or officially approved path, but it is an intensely practical and yet heightened one: This life you’re living has meaning.”
—PEGGY NOONAN, Wall Street Journal
“Jordan Peterson is universally revered—and feared—for his incredible intellect and emotional insight.”
—DAVE RUBIN, host of The Rubin Report and author of Don’t Burn This Book
“The Peterson way is a harsh way, but it is an idealistic way—and for millions of young men, it turns out to be the perfect antidote to the cocktail of coddling and accusation in which they are raised.”
—DAVID BROOKS, New York Times
“The world needs Jordan Peterson.”
—DOUGLAS MURRAY, author of The Madness of Crowds
About the Author
Dr. Jordan B Peterson is the bestselling author of 12 Rules for Life, which has sold more than five million copies worldwide. After working for decades as a clinical psychologist and a professor at Harvard and the University of Toronto, Peterson has become one of the world’s most influential public intellectuals. His YouTube videos and podcasts have gathered a worldwide audience of hundreds of millions, and his global book tour reached more than 250,000 people in major cities across the globe. With his students and colleagues, he has published more than one hundred scientific papers, and his 1999 book Maps of Meaning revolutionized the psychology of religion. He lives in Toronto, Ontario with his family.
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Do Not Do What You Hate
If you are at work, and called upon to do what makes you contemptuous of yourself—weak and ashamed, likely to lash out at those you love, unwilling to perform productively, and sick of your life—it is possible that it is time to meditate, consider, strategize, and place yourself in a position where you are capable of saying no.[1] Perhaps you will garner additional respect from the people you are opposing on moral grounds, even though you may still pay a high price for your actions. Perhaps they will even come to rethink their stance—if not now, with time (as their own consciences might be plaguing them in that same still small manner).
Perhaps you should also be positioning yourself for a lateral move— into another job, for example, noting as you may, “This occupation is deadening my soul, and that is truly not for me. It is time to take the painstaking steps necessary to organize my CV, and to engage in the difficult, demanding, and often unrewarding search for a new job” (but you have to be successful only once). Maybe you can find something that pays better and is more interesting, and where you are working with people who not only fail to kill your spirit, but positively rejuvenate it. Maybe following the dictates of conscience is in fact the best possible plan that you have—at minimum, otherwise you have to live with your sense of self-betrayal and the knowledge that you put up with what you truly could not tolerate. Nothing about that is good.
I might get fired. Well, prepare now to seek out and ready yourself for another job, hopefully better (or prepare yourself to go over your manager’s head with a well-prepared and articulate argument). And do not begin by presuming that leaving your job, even involuntarily, is necessarily for the worst.
I am afraid to move. Well, of course you are, but afraid compared to what? Afraid in comparison to continuing in a job where the center of your being is at stake; where you become weaker, more contemptible, more bitter, and more prone to pressure and tyranny over the years? There are few choices in life where there is no risk on either side, and it is often necessary to contemplate the risks of staying as thoroughly as the risks of moving. I have seen many people move, sometimes after several years of strategizing, and end up in better shape, psychologically and pragmatically, after their time in the desert.
Perhaps no one else would want me. Well, the rejection rate for new job applications is extraordinarily high. I tell my clients to assume 50:1, so their expectations are set properly. You are going to be passed over, in many cases, for many positions for which you are qualified. But that is rarely personal. It is, instead, a condition of existence, an inevitable consequence of somewhat arbitrary subjection to the ambivalent conditions of worth characterizing society. It is the consequence of the fact that CVs are easy to disseminate and difficult to process; that many jobs have unannounced internal candidates (and so are just going through the motions); and that some companies keep a rolling stock of applicants, in case they need to hire quickly. That is an actuarial problem, a statistical problem, a baseline problem—and not necessarily an indication that there is something specifically flawed about you. You must incorporate all that sustainingly pessimistic realism into your expectations, so that you do not become unreasonably downhearted. One hundred and fifty applications, carefully chosen; three to five interviews thereby acquired. That could be a mission of a year or more. That is much less than a lifetime of misery and downward trajectory. But it is not nothing. You need to fortify yourself for it, plan, and garner support from people who understand what you are up to and are realistically appraised of the difficulty and the options.
Now it may also be that you are lagging in the development of your skills and could improve your performance at work so that your chances of being hired elsewhere are heightened. But there is no loss in that. You cannot effectively pronounce “no” in the presence of corrupt power when your options to move are nonexistent. In consequence, you have a moral obligation to place yourself in a position of comparative strength, and to do then what is necessary to capitalize on that strength. You may also have to think through worst-case situations and to discuss them with those who will be affected by your decisions. But it is once again worth realizing that staying where you should not be may be the true worst-case situation: one that drags you out and kills you slowly over decades. That is not a good death, even though it is slow, and there is very little in it that does not speak of the hopeless- ness that makes people age quickly and long for the cessation of career and, worse, life. That is no improvement. As the old and cruel cliché goes: If you must cut off a cat’s tail, do not do it half an inch at a time. You may well be in for a few painful years of belated recognition of insufficiency, and required to send out four or five or ten job applications a week, knowing full well that the majority will be rejected with less than a second look. But you need to win the lottery only once, and a few years of difficulty with hope beat an entire dejected lifetime of a degenerating and oppressed career.
And let us be clear: It is not a simple matter of hating your job be- cause it requires you to wake up too early in the morning, or to drag yourself to work when it is too hot or cold or windy or dry or when you are feeling low and want to curl up in bed. It is not a matter of frustration generated when you are called on to do things that are menial or necessary such as emptying garbage cans, sweeping floors, cleaning bathrooms, or in any other manner taking your lowly but well- deserved place at the bottom of the hierarchy of competence—even of seniority. Resentment generated by such necessary work is most often merely ingratitude, inability to accept a lowly place at the beginning, unwillingness to adopt the position of the fool, or arrogance and lack of discipline. Refusal of the call of conscience is by no means the same thing as irritation about undesirably low status.
That rejection—that betrayal of soul—is truly the requirement to perform demonstrably counterproductive, absurd, or pointless work; to treat others unjustly and to lie about it; to engage in deceit, to betray your future self; to put up with unnecessary torture and abuse (and to silently watch others suffer the same treatment). That rejection is the turning of a blind eye, and the agreement to say and do things that betray your deepest values and make you a cheat at your own game. And there is no doubt that the road to hell, personally and socially, is paved not so much with good intentions as with the adoption of attitudes and undertaking of actions that inescapably disturb your con- science.
Do not do what you hate.
[1] Perhaps not just once, because that makes your reaction too impulsive; perhaps not just twice, because that still may not constitute sufficient evidence to risk undertaking what might be a genuine war; but definitively three times, when a pattern has been clearly established.
If you are at work, and called upon to do what makes you contemptuous of yourself—weak and ashamed, likely to lash out at those you love, unwilling to perform productively, and sick of your life—it is possible that it is time to meditate, consider, strategize, and place yourself in a position where you are capable of saying no.[1] Perhaps you will garner additional respect from the people you are opposing on moral grounds, even though you may still pay a high price for your actions. Perhaps they will even come to rethink their stance—if not now, with time (as their own consciences might be plaguing them in that same still small manner).
Perhaps you should also be positioning yourself for a lateral move— into another job, for example, noting as you may, “This occupation is deadening my soul, and that is truly not for me. It is time to take the painstaking steps necessary to organize my CV, and to engage in the difficult, demanding, and often unrewarding search for a new job” (but you have to be successful only once). Maybe you can find something that pays better and is more interesting, and where you are working with people who not only fail to kill your spirit, but positively rejuvenate it. Maybe following the dictates of conscience is in fact the best possible plan that you have—at minimum, otherwise you have to live with your sense of self-betrayal and the knowledge that you put up with what you truly could not tolerate. Nothing about that is good.
I might get fired. Well, prepare now to seek out and ready yourself for another job, hopefully better (or prepare yourself to go over your manager’s head with a well-prepared and articulate argument). And do not begin by presuming that leaving your job, even involuntarily, is necessarily for the worst.
I am afraid to move. Well, of course you are, but afraid compared to what? Afraid in comparison to continuing in a job where the center of your being is at stake; where you become weaker, more contemptible, more bitter, and more prone to pressure and tyranny over the years? There are few choices in life where there is no risk on either side, and it is often necessary to contemplate the risks of staying as thoroughly as the risks of moving. I have seen many people move, sometimes after several years of strategizing, and end up in better shape, psychologically and pragmatically, after their time in the desert.
Perhaps no one else would want me. Well, the rejection rate for new job applications is extraordinarily high. I tell my clients to assume 50:1, so their expectations are set properly. You are going to be passed over, in many cases, for many positions for which you are qualified. But that is rarely personal. It is, instead, a condition of existence, an inevitable consequence of somewhat arbitrary subjection to the ambivalent conditions of worth characterizing society. It is the consequence of the fact that CVs are easy to disseminate and difficult to process; that many jobs have unannounced internal candidates (and so are just going through the motions); and that some companies keep a rolling stock of applicants, in case they need to hire quickly. That is an actuarial problem, a statistical problem, a baseline problem—and not necessarily an indication that there is something specifically flawed about you. You must incorporate all that sustainingly pessimistic realism into your expectations, so that you do not become unreasonably downhearted. One hundred and fifty applications, carefully chosen; three to five interviews thereby acquired. That could be a mission of a year or more. That is much less than a lifetime of misery and downward trajectory. But it is not nothing. You need to fortify yourself for it, plan, and garner support from people who understand what you are up to and are realistically appraised of the difficulty and the options.
Now it may also be that you are lagging in the development of your skills and could improve your performance at work so that your chances of being hired elsewhere are heightened. But there is no loss in that. You cannot effectively pronounce “no” in the presence of corrupt power when your options to move are nonexistent. In consequence, you have a moral obligation to place yourself in a position of comparative strength, and to do then what is necessary to capitalize on that strength. You may also have to think through worst-case situations and to discuss them with those who will be affected by your decisions. But it is once again worth realizing that staying where you should not be may be the true worst-case situation: one that drags you out and kills you slowly over decades. That is not a good death, even though it is slow, and there is very little in it that does not speak of the hopeless- ness that makes people age quickly and long for the cessation of career and, worse, life. That is no improvement. As the old and cruel cliché goes: If you must cut off a cat’s tail, do not do it half an inch at a time. You may well be in for a few painful years of belated recognition of insufficiency, and required to send out four or five or ten job applications a week, knowing full well that the majority will be rejected with less than a second look. But you need to win the lottery only once, and a few years of difficulty with hope beat an entire dejected lifetime of a degenerating and oppressed career.
And let us be clear: It is not a simple matter of hating your job be- cause it requires you to wake up too early in the morning, or to drag yourself to work when it is too hot or cold or windy or dry or when you are feeling low and want to curl up in bed. It is not a matter of frustration generated when you are called on to do things that are menial or necessary such as emptying garbage cans, sweeping floors, cleaning bathrooms, or in any other manner taking your lowly but well- deserved place at the bottom of the hierarchy of competence—even of seniority. Resentment generated by such necessary work is most often merely ingratitude, inability to accept a lowly place at the beginning, unwillingness to adopt the position of the fool, or arrogance and lack of discipline. Refusal of the call of conscience is by no means the same thing as irritation about undesirably low status.
That rejection—that betrayal of soul—is truly the requirement to perform demonstrably counterproductive, absurd, or pointless work; to treat others unjustly and to lie about it; to engage in deceit, to betray your future self; to put up with unnecessary torture and abuse (and to silently watch others suffer the same treatment). That rejection is the turning of a blind eye, and the agreement to say and do things that betray your deepest values and make you a cheat at your own game. And there is no doubt that the road to hell, personally and socially, is paved not so much with good intentions as with the adoption of attitudes and undertaking of actions that inescapably disturb your con- science.
Do not do what you hate.
[1] Perhaps not just once, because that makes your reaction too impulsive; perhaps not just twice, because that still may not constitute sufficient evidence to risk undertaking what might be a genuine war; but definitively three times, when a pattern has been clearly established.
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Jordan Peterson is a Canadian clinical psychologist, cultural critic, and professor of psychology at the University of Toronto. His main areas of study are the psychology of religious and ideological belief, and the assessment and improvement of personality and performance.
From 1993 to 1997, Peterson lived in Arlington, Massachusetts, while teaching and conducting research at Harvard University as an assistant and an associate professor in the psychology department. During his time at Harvard, he studied aggression arising from drug and alcohol abuse, and supervised a number of unconventional thesis proposals. Afterwards, he returned to Canada and took up a post as a professor at the University of Toronto.
In 1999, Routledge published Peterson's Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief. The book, which took Peterson 13 years to complete, describes a comprehensive theory for how we construct meaning, represented by the mythical process of the exploratory hero, and provides an interpretation of religious and mythical models of reality presented in a way that is compatible with modern scientific understanding of how the brain works. It synthesizes ideas drawn from narratives in mythology, religion, literature and philosophy, as well as research from neuropsychology, in "the classic, old-fashioned tradition of social science."
Peterson's primary goal was to examine why individuals, not simply groups, engage in social conflict, and to model the path individuals take that results in atrocities like the Gulag, the Auschwitz concentration camp and the Rwandan genocide. Peterson considers himself a pragmatist, and uses science and neuropsychology to examine and learn from the belief systems of the past and vice versa, but his theory is primarily phenomenological. In the book, he explores the origins of evil, and also posits that an analysis of the world's religious ideas might allow us to describe our essential morality and eventually develop a universal system of morality.
Harvey Shepard, writing in the Religion column of the Montreal Gazette, stated: "To me, the book reflects its author's profound moral sense and vast erudition in areas ranging from clinical psychology to scripture and a good deal of personal soul searching. ... Peterson's vision is both fully informed by current scientific and pragmatic methods, and in important ways deeply conservative and traditional."
In 2004, a 13-part TV series based on his book Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief aired on TVOntario. He has also appeared on that network on shows such as Big Ideas, and as a frequent guest and essayist on The Agenda with Steve Paikin since 2008.
In 2013, Peterson began recording his lectures ("Personality and Its Transformations", "Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief") and uploading them to YouTube. His YouTube channel has gathered more than 600,000 subscribers and his videos have received more than 35 million views as of January 2018. He has also appeared on The Joe Rogan Experience, The Gavin McInnes Show, Steven Crowder's Louder with Crowder, Dave Rubin's The Rubin Report, Stefan Molyneux's Freedomain Radio, h3h3Productions's H3 Podcast, Sam Harris's Waking Up podcast, Gad Saad's The Saad Truth series and other online shows. In December 2016, Peterson started his own podcast, The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast, which has 37 episodes as of January 10, 2018, including academic guests such as Camille Paglia, Martin Daly, and James W. Pennebaker, while on his channel he has also interviewed Stephen Hicks, Richard J. Haier, and Jonathan Haidt among others. In January 2017, he hired a production team to film his psychology lectures at the University of Toronto.
Peterson with his colleagues Robert O. Pihl, Daniel Higgins, and Michaela Schippers produced a writing therapy program with series of online writing exercises, titled the Self Authoring Suite. It includes the Past Authoring Program, a guided autobiography; two Present Authoring Programs, which allow the participant to analyze their personality faults and virtues in terms of the Big Five personality model; and the Future Authoring Program, which guides participants through the process of planning their desired futures. The latter program was used with McGill University undergraduates on academic probation to improve their grades, as well since 2011 at Rotterdam School of Management, Erasmus University. The Self Authoring Programs were developed partially from research by James W. Pennebaker at the University of Texas at Austin and Gary Latham at the Rotman School of Management of the University of Toronto. Pennebaker demonstrated that writing about traumatic or uncertain events and situations improved mental and physical health, while Latham demonstrated that personal planning exercises help make people more productive. According to Peterson, more than 10,000 students have used the program as of January 2017, with drop-out rates decreasing by 25% and GPAs rising by 20%.
In May 2017 he started new project, titled "The psychological significance of the Biblical stories", a series of live theatre lectures in which he analyzes archetypal narratives in Genesis as patterns of behaviour vital for both personal, social and cultural stability.
His upcoming book "12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos" will be released on January 23rd, 2018. It was released in the UK on January 16th. Dr. Peterson is currently on tour throughout North America, Europe and Australia.
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The catastrophic over-diagnosis of ‘neurosis’ in these trying times is taken to task, lest all end up as ‘neurotics’ for good.
This book was not only more personal and heartfelt than its predecessor, but also had a slightly more authentic tone throughout. One can almost see the wisdom of this man's conscience develop from the previous book 12 Rules for Life, to this book Beyond Order. Much of it is indeed a rephrasing and rehashing of his previous book, but a great deal is refreshingly novel and some things even just straight unexpected. One might feel like a hero of heroes just by reading certain aspects and 'scenes' of the book. Anyone who found 12 rules for life beneficial is almost sure to find this also, as one might say, an added layer of gold knightly armor to lay upon the previous layer. In addition if you or someone you know or love, is involved with benzodiazepines or other anti-psychotic medications, or is struggling with them, then this book will help you understand how you are not alone regarding such serious and sometimes even, life and death serious; problems. The attention drawn to the societal ignorance regarding benzodiazepines and other (potentially) dangerous medication is brought to the fore.
Hits Hard On the inevitableness of both anxiety and acute depression as an ever present and eternal threat that only the ‘Hero within’ can slay. Anxiety does not imply the ‘Need’ for anti-psychotics. Anxiety is normal phenomenon and can easily be a necessary precursor to further development,(one’s unconscious simply demanding that you start exercising for example!) and not, as many say, pathological, and these points are driven home perhaps better than any other.
This book was not only more personal and heartfelt than its predecessor, but also had a slightly more authentic tone throughout. One can almost see the wisdom of this man's conscience develop from the previous book 12 Rules for Life, to this book Beyond Order. Much of it is indeed a rephrasing and rehashing of his previous book, but a great deal is refreshingly novel and some things even just straight unexpected. One might feel like a hero of heroes just by reading certain aspects and 'scenes' of the book. Anyone who found 12 rules for life beneficial is almost sure to find this also, as one might say, an added layer of gold knightly armor to lay upon the previous layer. In addition if you or someone you know or love, is involved with benzodiazepines or other anti-psychotic medications, or is struggling with them, then this book will help you understand how you are not alone regarding such serious and sometimes even, life and death serious; problems. The attention drawn to the societal ignorance regarding benzodiazepines and other (potentially) dangerous medication is brought to the fore.
Hits Hard On the inevitableness of both anxiety and acute depression as an ever present and eternal threat that only the ‘Hero within’ can slay. Anxiety does not imply the ‘Need’ for anti-psychotics. Anxiety is normal phenomenon and can easily be a necessary precursor to further development,(one’s unconscious simply demanding that you start exercising for example!) and not, as many say, pathological, and these points are driven home perhaps better than any other.
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Amazing! So far an amazing book. I just finished 12 rules for life again yesterday before this release. That book saved me especially over the last year. Buy this book and the first one. Don't fall in the trap that the media tries to set about the quality of character of Jordan Peterson. He only wants what's best for everyone in the world. Truly a light in the darkness.
Edit: Well I picked it up and didn't put it down until I finished it. Amazing content. I watch a lot of his online lectures and his voice really shined through in this book. Felt like he was speaking his personal knowledge directly to me. I couldn't recommend it more.
Edit: Well I picked it up and didn't put it down until I finished it. Amazing content. I watch a lot of his online lectures and his voice really shined through in this book. Felt like he was speaking his personal knowledge directly to me. I couldn't recommend it more.
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This follow-up book has a more personal tone than his first book and the wisdom of the author is laced in every single page. If you haven't read his first book, go read it, and then immediately read this book. Welcome back Dr. Peterson!
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I purchased both the hardcover and audio book versions of 'Beyond Order'-- having done the same for the original '12 Rules' and followed Peterson's group lectures and presentations for years; I knew these new sets of rules have been powerful themes of his; not making the cut from the original '12 Rules' only because of space/clarity, and not at all because they're less vital.
Many won't need to (all his points+deeper themes are 100% understandable even by laymen); but getting the audio book version as well offers added utility for me: there is SO much goodness to unpack in this book; and for me it takes repeated emphasis (play-back) to hear the words again and draw all of it out to apply to notes in my own life.
Here, Peterson gives the same-if not more- attention to these rules in 'Beyond Order'-- one instantly sees the detail and painstakingly-sought after meaning in each of his words. Incidentally, that's one reason why I bought the audio version- which he narrates- as well. Peterson becomes emotional, sometimes getting choked up in reading his own words-- he means and believes every word.
Taking up responsibility, giving credence to our ancient forefathers, shirking entitlement, repelling Leftist Identity Politics, and getting ones own house in order are all fundamentally needed in today's climate. This is sorely needed and is further testament to why scores of Millions are inspired by Peterson.
Many won't need to (all his points+deeper themes are 100% understandable even by laymen); but getting the audio book version as well offers added utility for me: there is SO much goodness to unpack in this book; and for me it takes repeated emphasis (play-back) to hear the words again and draw all of it out to apply to notes in my own life.
Here, Peterson gives the same-if not more- attention to these rules in 'Beyond Order'-- one instantly sees the detail and painstakingly-sought after meaning in each of his words. Incidentally, that's one reason why I bought the audio version- which he narrates- as well. Peterson becomes emotional, sometimes getting choked up in reading his own words-- he means and believes every word.
Taking up responsibility, giving credence to our ancient forefathers, shirking entitlement, repelling Leftist Identity Politics, and getting ones own house in order are all fundamentally needed in today's climate. This is sorely needed and is further testament to why scores of Millions are inspired by Peterson.
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Jordan Peterson goes savage once again! He tells you to man (or woman) the F-up with insightful stories and antidotes.
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JBP is a voice of reason in these crazy times! His words inspire me and people I know to be better human beings.
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Doktor Stone
5.0 out of 5 stars
Petersons Comeback - Wie Phoenix aus der Asche 👻
Reviewed in Germany on March 2, 2021Verified Purchase
Ich machte mir ernsthafte Sorgen. In den letzten Monaten schien es nicht gut bestellt um Peterson. Viel war da die Rede von Zusammenbrüchen, Medikamentenabhängigkeiten, von Wachkomazuständen inklusiver einer Krankenhausodyssee durch verschiedene Spezialkliniken in Osteuropa. Was ist nicht alles geschehen? In Interviews sah er leichenblass, müde und ziemlich abgekämpft aus. Gleich am Anfang von "Beyond Order", in der Ouvertüre, berichtet der Autor mit bewundernswürdiger Offenheit über seine Unzulänglichkeiten und inneren Kämpfe, ohne jemals seine Medikamentenabhängigkeit zu verharmlosen, was seiner eigenen Heldengeschichte sicher nicht schadet. Da mich Freud, Jung, Hesse, das Alte Testament und Dostojewski seit jeher magisch reizen, habe ich Petersons Werdegang mit Interesse verfolgt. Angefangen habe ich mit Maps of Meaning, damals noch ein Kultbuch für Eingeweihte, schaute ich seine Vorlesungsreihe zu Mythologie, wenig später erfolgte der Aufstieg zur Kultfigur, die immer prominenter platzierten Kontroversen und Streitgespräche, der Höhepunkt der Aufmerksamkeit bei diversen Gender-Gefechten, das Philosophen-Battle mit Zizek und schließlich der schleichende Benzodiazepin-induzierte Rückzug.
Soviel Vorgeplänkel. Frisch ran ans Werk, Freunde. Zu allererst fand ich es extrem spannend gerade in solchen Zeiten Peterson zu lesen. Selbst gerade aus Corona-Untiefen zurückgekehrt, gewinnt man Halt bei jemand Bekanntem. Irgendwie hatten schon die ersten Leseseiten etwas Beruhigendes, wie das Treffen eines alten Freundes, der einen an die eigene Verantwortung erinnert. Und bald hörte ich beim Lesen schon Jordans nasale Stimme mit dem kanadischen Alberta-Akzent, die so gerne "abuut" statt "about" sagt und es als brillanter Rhetoriker versteht, sein Publikum zu fesseln. Nach seinem Vorgängerbuch, dem immens erfolgreichen Ratgeber "12 Rules For Life", für Fans mittlerweile wichtiger als die Zehn biblischen Gebote, folgen nun 12 weitere Lebensratschläge. In "Beyond Order" schlägt Peterson einen ähnlichen Ton an, konzentriert sich vor allem auf das
Überthema "(Über-)Leben in unsicheren Zeiten". Im Zentrum steht weiterhin die Mythologie, also die stetige individuelle Suche nach Sinn und Bedeutung im irdischen Dasein. Wie gewohnt feuert der Intellektuelle seine Breitseiten gegen die Auswüchse von zunehmender Sprachkritik und ermüdender PC-Madness, allerdings etwas abgemildert, vielleicht auch in meiner Erinnerung, und weniger scharfzüngig als zuvor. Die Kapitel sind wieder wunderbar in ihrer Klarheit, kalt in ihrer Argumentation und gestochen scharf im Stil. Ich kann mir gut vorstellen, wie der Autor, trotz seiner Krankheitsphase, um jeden Satz und jede Formulierung mit sich und seinen Schatten gerungen hat.
Wie soll man sich durch das Chaos der Moderne navigieren? Peterson geht tautologisch vor und bewegt sich vom Großen aufs Kleine. "Junge, kehr vor deiner eigenen Haustüre, räum dein Zimmer auf!" Ratschläge zum richtigen Führen einer Beziehung (Ratschlag X Honesty and Trust) tauchen ebenso auf wie Berichte aus dem Klinikalltag und dazwischen versteht Peterson es eine Mythengeschichte einzuflechten. Chaos ist laut Peterson nicht per se schlecht, da auf der anderen Seite der fiese Zwillingsbruder namens "Ordnung" lauert. Mit zu viel Struktur und Ordnung droht uns Stagnation. Echte Bildung funktioniert dabei weder über die reflexhafte Aneignung von Altem oder Neuem. Wie der Titel schon verrät, schlägt Peterson einen Mittelweg vor zwischen "Chaos" und "Ordnung". Die Kernbotschaft lautet heruntergebrochen, dass wir einerseits die Tradition kennen und Sinnvolles bewahren müssen, uns andererseits aber auch ins Neue, Unbekannte wagen sollen. Dieses bemerkenswerte Buch endet, dann mit einem bemerkenswerten XII. Ratschlag: "Be grateful in spite of your suffering". Selbst wenn wir
uns am Boden der sozialen Hierarchie befinden, sollen wir Demut und Dankbarkeit empfinden, dass es Menschen mit größerer Ausstrahlung und Expertise gibt, welche für uns Probleme lösen. Keine einfache Übung, wie der Meister selbst gesteht, aber die Hinwendung zum Religiösen hätte ich so nicht erwartet. Zusammen mit seinem Vorgänger bildet "Beyond Order" somit eine grandiose Einheit, ein hellsichtiges Manifest, das Petersons liberale und konservative Ansichten vereinigt, wider der grassierenden Unvernunft. Grandioses Comeback!
Soviel Vorgeplänkel. Frisch ran ans Werk, Freunde. Zu allererst fand ich es extrem spannend gerade in solchen Zeiten Peterson zu lesen. Selbst gerade aus Corona-Untiefen zurückgekehrt, gewinnt man Halt bei jemand Bekanntem. Irgendwie hatten schon die ersten Leseseiten etwas Beruhigendes, wie das Treffen eines alten Freundes, der einen an die eigene Verantwortung erinnert. Und bald hörte ich beim Lesen schon Jordans nasale Stimme mit dem kanadischen Alberta-Akzent, die so gerne "abuut" statt "about" sagt und es als brillanter Rhetoriker versteht, sein Publikum zu fesseln. Nach seinem Vorgängerbuch, dem immens erfolgreichen Ratgeber "12 Rules For Life", für Fans mittlerweile wichtiger als die Zehn biblischen Gebote, folgen nun 12 weitere Lebensratschläge. In "Beyond Order" schlägt Peterson einen ähnlichen Ton an, konzentriert sich vor allem auf das
Überthema "(Über-)Leben in unsicheren Zeiten". Im Zentrum steht weiterhin die Mythologie, also die stetige individuelle Suche nach Sinn und Bedeutung im irdischen Dasein. Wie gewohnt feuert der Intellektuelle seine Breitseiten gegen die Auswüchse von zunehmender Sprachkritik und ermüdender PC-Madness, allerdings etwas abgemildert, vielleicht auch in meiner Erinnerung, und weniger scharfzüngig als zuvor. Die Kapitel sind wieder wunderbar in ihrer Klarheit, kalt in ihrer Argumentation und gestochen scharf im Stil. Ich kann mir gut vorstellen, wie der Autor, trotz seiner Krankheitsphase, um jeden Satz und jede Formulierung mit sich und seinen Schatten gerungen hat.
Wie soll man sich durch das Chaos der Moderne navigieren? Peterson geht tautologisch vor und bewegt sich vom Großen aufs Kleine. "Junge, kehr vor deiner eigenen Haustüre, räum dein Zimmer auf!" Ratschläge zum richtigen Führen einer Beziehung (Ratschlag X Honesty and Trust) tauchen ebenso auf wie Berichte aus dem Klinikalltag und dazwischen versteht Peterson es eine Mythengeschichte einzuflechten. Chaos ist laut Peterson nicht per se schlecht, da auf der anderen Seite der fiese Zwillingsbruder namens "Ordnung" lauert. Mit zu viel Struktur und Ordnung droht uns Stagnation. Echte Bildung funktioniert dabei weder über die reflexhafte Aneignung von Altem oder Neuem. Wie der Titel schon verrät, schlägt Peterson einen Mittelweg vor zwischen "Chaos" und "Ordnung". Die Kernbotschaft lautet heruntergebrochen, dass wir einerseits die Tradition kennen und Sinnvolles bewahren müssen, uns andererseits aber auch ins Neue, Unbekannte wagen sollen. Dieses bemerkenswerte Buch endet, dann mit einem bemerkenswerten XII. Ratschlag: "Be grateful in spite of your suffering". Selbst wenn wir
uns am Boden der sozialen Hierarchie befinden, sollen wir Demut und Dankbarkeit empfinden, dass es Menschen mit größerer Ausstrahlung und Expertise gibt, welche für uns Probleme lösen. Keine einfache Übung, wie der Meister selbst gesteht, aber die Hinwendung zum Religiösen hätte ich so nicht erwartet. Zusammen mit seinem Vorgänger bildet "Beyond Order" somit eine grandiose Einheit, ein hellsichtiges Manifest, das Petersons liberale und konservative Ansichten vereinigt, wider der grassierenden Unvernunft. Grandioses Comeback!
Jonathan Baldie
5.0 out of 5 stars
He's back!
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on March 2, 2021Verified Purchase
I'm so excited that JBP is well again and back with more excellent advice. I particularly like rule 11 on not letting resentment and anger get the best of you, but all of it seems very useful.
My only complaint, and nothing to do with the book itself, is the shabby and torn condition it arrived in. Amazon delivery quality seems to be getting much worse these days, particularly for books. Maybe someone in the Amazon warehouse doesn't like the popularity of JBP's books?
My only complaint, and nothing to do with the book itself, is the shabby and torn condition it arrived in. Amazon delivery quality seems to be getting much worse these days, particularly for books. Maybe someone in the Amazon warehouse doesn't like the popularity of JBP's books?
5.0 out of 5 stars
He's back!
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on March 2, 2021
I'm so excited that JBP is well again and back with more excellent advice. I particularly like rule 11 on not letting resentment and anger get the best of you, but all of it seems very useful.Reviewed in the United Kingdom on March 2, 2021
My only complaint, and nothing to do with the book itself, is the shabby and torn condition it arrived in. Amazon delivery quality seems to be getting much worse these days, particularly for books. Maybe someone in the Amazon warehouse doesn't like the popularity of JBP's books?
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Dix
4.0 out of 5 stars
A voice of reason in a hysterical world
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on March 1, 2021Verified Purchase
Not a fan of self help books, but in an age of supreme cognitive dissonance, Peterson's advice reminds us to find meaning through duty to ourselves and others.
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Catalin Ghila
5.0 out of 5 stars
Welcome back, sir!
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on March 2, 2021Verified Purchase
I've just been delivered the book, opened it and stumbled upon this: "To my wife, Tammy, whom I have loved deeply for fifty years, and who is admirable, IN MY ESTIMATION, in all regards, and beyond all reason."
This single paragraph captures the essence of Mr. Peterson's personality and work, a man capable of more empathy than his "haters" would like to admit, a man who is precise in his speech, who chooses his words carefuly and who puts reason even into a praise to his wife!
Reading about the book's chapters it seems that this is "another self help book that teaches the OBVIOUS", as JBP's critics have called "12 Rules for Life", but if "the obvious" would've been easily achievable, Mr. Peterson would not hold lectures all over the world explaining it, produce much more content than one can follow and now write a second book about "the obvious".
Therefore, I'm grateful for Mr. Peterson's effort, and not only for writing this book, but for everything that he does in helping people straightening their lives.
This single paragraph captures the essence of Mr. Peterson's personality and work, a man capable of more empathy than his "haters" would like to admit, a man who is precise in his speech, who chooses his words carefuly and who puts reason even into a praise to his wife!
Reading about the book's chapters it seems that this is "another self help book that teaches the OBVIOUS", as JBP's critics have called "12 Rules for Life", but if "the obvious" would've been easily achievable, Mr. Peterson would not hold lectures all over the world explaining it, produce much more content than one can follow and now write a second book about "the obvious".
Therefore, I'm grateful for Mr. Peterson's effort, and not only for writing this book, but for everything that he does in helping people straightening their lives.
5.0 out of 5 stars
Welcome back, sir!
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on March 2, 2021
I've just been delivered the book, opened it and stumbled upon this: "To my wife, Tammy, whom I have loved deeply for fifty years, and who is admirable, IN MY ESTIMATION, in all regards, and beyond all reason."Reviewed in the United Kingdom on March 2, 2021
This single paragraph captures the essence of Mr. Peterson's personality and work, a man capable of more empathy than his "haters" would like to admit, a man who is precise in his speech, who chooses his words carefuly and who puts reason even into a praise to his wife!
Reading about the book's chapters it seems that this is "another self help book that teaches the OBVIOUS", as JBP's critics have called "12 Rules for Life", but if "the obvious" would've been easily achievable, Mr. Peterson would not hold lectures all over the world explaining it, produce much more content than one can follow and now write a second book about "the obvious".
Therefore, I'm grateful for Mr. Peterson's effort, and not only for writing this book, but for everything that he does in helping people straightening their lives.
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Andreas Lysandrou
5.0 out of 5 stars
Incredibly powerful, remarkable.
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on March 2, 2021Verified Purchase
It's an honor and a privilege to be able to read yet another one of this man's books. I have never been the biggest fan of self-help books, so I approached the first 12 Rules book with caution. It was so much more than what I expected. His 2nd book is no different.
Dr. Peterson weaves together aspects of religion, psychology, mythology, psychoanalytical theories, philosophy and many other areas into a book with simple, and at the same time complex rules to help each person become the best version of themselves they can possibly be. It seems to me like the things Dr. Peterson has to say in his works are things that every person deserves to hear, but never does.
While uninformed faux critics of Dr. Peterson and his work, who base their opinions of him on the most recent HuffPost or Vox article exist in multitudes, one should not let these people dissuade them from reading what is one of the most remarkable books in recent years.
Dr. Peterson weaves together aspects of religion, psychology, mythology, psychoanalytical theories, philosophy and many other areas into a book with simple, and at the same time complex rules to help each person become the best version of themselves they can possibly be. It seems to me like the things Dr. Peterson has to say in his works are things that every person deserves to hear, but never does.
While uninformed faux critics of Dr. Peterson and his work, who base their opinions of him on the most recent HuffPost or Vox article exist in multitudes, one should not let these people dissuade them from reading what is one of the most remarkable books in recent years.
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