Had to re-write the review because I used one of Abraham's favorite words--lol. Anyway who thought numerous close ups of everyone's angst ridden faces is good cinematography? And why must it be SO dark that it's impossible to see what's going on. But it was a better episode than some of the earlier ones in season 8.
I have no idea whether they are winning or losing, what the objectives actually are. I mean where is Rick and Daryl at? What about more guns? They obviously surprised them, but at point blank range they couldn't take out Simon or Negan? Guys you gotta do a better job letting us know wtf is going on, show a freaking map or some subtitles. We have no idea how many compounds these saviors call home. I really was hoping this would be a better season but more of the same, just sucks seeing my favorite show going down tubes.
OUTSTANDING T.V. Show the best ever. I do not understand these people complaining about it. They are telling a story and I say GREAT JOB!!! To the complainers there is a button on every TV which turns it off try that.
Ok... so I am a walking dead fan... and have watched and followed from the beginning. But I started losing my faith in the last season sometime after Carl had the chance to blow Negan away and he just didn't. I made excuses saying things like Carl is an idiot and I never liked his character or the actor... but that aside... I was able to reconcile it because he was young. But nothing can excuse Rick and his troop when they drive right up the to the front door and have what seems like multiple minutes to shoot Negan point blank and they don't!!!!!?!?!??!?!?!?! I am sorry... the writers are ascribing way to much mental and/or supernatural power in this one guy. Rick and his team were shooting from cover (flimsy cover albeit cover)... and had him clear at what was maybe 25 meters. At that distance 5.56 groupings over iron sites are centimeters wide not inches... I.E. people with practice don't miss. That whole team on the rampart should have been decimated by Rick alone once the shooting started... you just can't outrun high velocity rounds. And then there is the tin roofing they welded to the cars. Even if it was steel, it was maybe an 1/8th of an inch thick. That stuff would have been swiss cheese in a fire fight. Again... high velocity rounds from 5.56 and 7.62 go through half inch thick steel... at 100 meters. At best it would have confused the enemy but as cover... not good enough. I am just disappointed. It was clearly meant to be a desperate attempt to create some kind of big 'shock and awe' season premier to set the tone for what was to come. They should have killed Negan in the first 5 minutes and moved us on... his character is old hat now... He is not believable anymore. Negan's power came from the strength of his numbers and not him. He is physically not impressive. With what we have seen Rick do over the course of 100 episodes... Negan is an old man... with a baseball bat. And what were they aiming at in the windows? Were we meant to assume that Negan's forces were all up there behind plate glass firing down? I missed the context for that. I assumed they were factory windows and there was nobody behind the glass but perhaps I am wrong. Sorry folks... I think this train has left the tracks. Will probably continue watching because I am that sad and pathetic but the premiere was lack luster and did not hold a candle to the Brain Bashing episode or the Sophia Barn episode... the writers are grasping at straws now.They need some new blood in there. Add to that the cryptic flash forwards and backs to the triumvirate speeches on the pick up truck and you get flaky all around... not worthy of the historic walking dead chronicles. Someone please restore my confidence and offer me an explanation with even a modicum of plausibility to help me find my way back.
UPDATE 12/01/2017: Still grinding along... Did they fire all the good writers and directors here, or what? Are these newest episodes also of shorter duration, or does it just seem that way? None of these Season 8 Episodes so far, are worth a re-watch, and that's a first for this series! It pains me to say this!
I've enjoyed "The Walking Dead" since its inception on DVD, and that's unusual for me, as zombies aren't my thing. Still, the conclusion of Season One, Episode 06: TS-19, locked me into watching Season Two, where my total frustration with Hershel, Shane and Rick had me talking to myself! From there on out I've been a fan, purchasing every season on DVD, as soon as it comes out. And fans will forgive a few things, but those things do not generally include an absurd absence of logic.
SPOILER: The scene in Season 8 where Rick and his people have penetrated Negan's compound, armed to the teeth, protected behind a staggered vehicular shield-wall, yet close enough to have a shouting conversation with the grandstanding Negan (as out in the open as you could hope to get him), and nobody thinks to take a single shot at the SOB?! WTF?! A well-placed bolt (arrow) from Daryl's compound crossbow would've ended Negan right there, and surely one of the rifles could've taken him out. Hell, just wounding the SOB is a worthy achievement! But no, they palaver on instead, ignoring the opportunity and allowing Negan to strut his fast-growing-tiresome stuff. It's absurd!
We all saw the train come off the rails with "Dexter", when they got rid of all the talented writers and began pursuing absurd story lines; I didn't even finish the series... Any more mindless scenes like the one described above, and I'll likely walk away from this one too.
Sagas go Through Three Basic Stages (a little like careers do): Stage One: A Challenge Stage Two: An Adventure Stage Three: A Grind
So far, the first two episodes of "Season 8 of The Walking Dead" swing between motivational speeches and protracted scenes of ultra violence. It's becoming a grind. This current season is at a pivotal node now. Perhaps, they should take a lesson from their own episodes, which successfully detoured from the main storyline, and fleshed out an important character--the outstanding "Episode 4 from Season Six: Here's Not Here", shines as a prime example of how to artfully execute this; "The Grove" is another. Or perhaps, they should take a lesson from "Breaking Bad", which ended masterfully, poetically, and as it should have...
I find myself wishing that Shiva had taken out Negan at the climax of "Season 7", and that we'd be moving on to a new story line now, or wrapping it up. Endings--at least proper endings--matter.
"The X-Files" serves as an example of an excellent series that ran too long. Here is one that should've ended with "Season 7".