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Deer Hunting with Jesus: Dispatches from America's Class War Paperback – June 24, 2008
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By turns tender, incendiary, and seriously funny, this book is a call to arms for fellow progressives with little real understanding of "the great beery, NASCAR-loving, church-going, gun-owning America that has never set foot in a Starbucks."
Deer Hunting with Jesus is Joe Bageant’s report on what he learned when he moved back to his hometown of Winchester, Virginia. Like countless American small towns, it is fast becoming the bedrock of a permanent underclass. Two in five of the people in his old neighborhood do not have high school diplomas or health care. Alcohol, overeating, and Jesus are the preferred avenues of escape.
He writes of:
• His childhood friends who work at factory jobs that are constantly on the verge of being outsourced
• The mortgage and credit card rackets that saddle the working poor with debt
• The ubiquitous gun culture—and why the left doesn’ t get it
• Scots Irish culture and how it played out in the young life of Lynddie England
- Print length288 pages
- LanguageEnglish
- Publication dateJune 24, 2008
- Dimensions5.19 x 0.65 x 8 inches
- ISBN-100307339378
- ISBN-13978-0307339379
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Customers find the book insightful and thought-provoking. It provides them with compassion and helps them understand why people may vote against their own interests. The author provides sympathetic insights into the people he grew up with. They say it helped them become more thoughtful.
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- Reviewed in the United States on June 18, 2010The goal of social science can be simply stated: to understand the social world we live in. The ethical imperative behind all critical scholarly work is equally straightforward: If we know, we must act. Each generation produces seers, fools, and ideologues who compete for turf. The Vietnam Generation has given us a seer. His work should be studied by all concerned with contemporary America. If you teach sociology, anthropology, political science, or economics, assign this book in the suitable courses. It's a fascinating read, and you can intergate what Bageant has done with the tools of your discipline. Clear thinking about American society is always welcome.
Sometimes, however, it takes an outsider to shock the academy into remembering its prime purpose: to bring us out of Plato's cave. Bageant is not a social scientist but uses a time honored method to make the social world understandable: participation (social interaction), observation, and reflection. Upon returning to his hometown in rural Virginia, after over 30 years of absence, he reflects on his working class roots. Each essay offers insights into the American scene which unfold while dining in a local restaurant, drinking in a local bar, and walking childhood's streets. His literary style and the power of his writing have been blurbed by notables(among them Howard Zinn and Studs Terkel--sufficient reason, to my mind at least, to pay serious attention) but I am interested in the sociology which, although not billed as such, comes through in a crisp manner on almost every page.
This is not conventional sociological analysis, however, it offers a more vital and rare texture of lived lives. Working class lives. Ignored lives. Marginalized lives. Expendable lives. Broken Lives. White lives. Fundamentalist Christian lives that have been chewed up and disposed of by the economy (American Serfs), have had their fears and pride manipulated (Republicans by Default), fall victims to predatory marketing practices (The Deep-Fried, Double Wide Lifestyle),who cling to their guns as symbols of self-worth and tradition (Valley of the Gun), are manipulated by the policio-religious right and kept ignorant by failing schools and limited opportunities (The Covert Kingdom). These folks are the 75% of us who never went beyond high school.
They survive indignities: having their daughters scapegoated for the military incompetence of commanders (The Ballad of Lynddie England); are abused by the American health care system (An Authorized Place to Die) and are kept ignorant by a system that essentially provides only mediated images that serve a narcotizing function (American Halogram).
Bageant is also one of the few to get the 1960s right: "There was electricity in the air". The outlines of the changing social landscape are well documented in social science, but never before with such a human face. Stratification theorists draw lines between groups based on wealth, status, and power but, since social class in America is invisible, an amazing twin alchemy is possible: 1) accidents of birth are seen as choices 2) those less favored come to see themselves as personally responsible for a system that exploits them. Thus, those groups most brutalized by social inequality become it's staunchest defenders--a fact not ignored by ideological operatives.
Because of this fact I disagree that the liberals in the middle class who sold out to the system will somehow change because they are the prime beneficiaries of social inequality. After all, when taste, education, and lifestyle become commoditized that requires a reference point for relative evaluation. "Other": the idea of a gun totin', ignorant, bible readin', white trash, violent, drunkard to insure that all political eyes are kept off of the elites. So, the manager at McDonald's "earns" the right to control the lives of the part time workers and those who own 20,000 shares of McDonald's needn't even get involved. An elegant solution: young workers are easily hired, fired, and remain invisible, older workers there are simply underpaid, the manager can aspire to owning the franchise, we get cheap junk food, and the large shareholders drink fine wine and debate the finer points of conspicuous ceremonial consumption at a five star restaurant.
- Reviewed in the United States on October 17, 20133.5 stars
This book was a hard one for me to review. I feel that the information contained within is important; however, I wasn't always so thrilled with Bageant's approach to revealing that information.
Like Bageant, I come from a small redneck town that, while a bit more middle class and not so poverty-stricken, was also much more Protestant. As such, I'm fairly familiar with many of the characters that Bageant introduces to us. Bageant paints the world through their eyes for us, giving us insight into the white working class who so often tend to vote for a party whose policies often run completely counter to their best interests.
It was primarily for this reason that I purchased that book. Having joined the military, gone to college, and met many interesting people, I've long since grown out of that hand-me-down Republican conservatism that Southern white families of the middle and working class expect of their children. However, I've never truly been able to understand why so many from my home town, including my family, have been unable to leave it, as well.
Bageant answers these questions by offering up conversations that he has with the local yokels of his hometown, elucidating the various capitalist, Christian, and media forces that keep the working and much of the middle class in their places. This is where the structure of the book breaks down for me. Bageant will recite one of these conversations then go on for quite a few pages extrapolating the implications of that conversation. Bageant does this so deftly that it becomes hard for the reader to differentiate between what was actually said in these conversations and Bageant's own opinions. He presents them in lockstep and it's hard not to get the impression that he's putting words into the characters' mouths at some point.
The characters themselves, while certainly recognizable to me from my own upbringing, have been carried to their extreme, becoming caricatures of working class whites. This is most evident to me in his using of Lynndie England as an example of the "economic draft". Here, Bageant obfuscates the truth a bit by proclaiming that Lynndie was driven to joining the Army due to economic hardship, repeating a common and not completely factual trope that only poor, uneducated people join the military. The part that Bageant hopes you don't notice is that Lynndie was an Army reservist, meaning she did one weekend a month, two weeks in the summer, except when called to active duty at Abu Ghraib. Having spent six years in the Marine Corps Reserve, I can tell you that the pay is not nearly enough to live on; she would have had to have some regular job for that. That, of course, somewhat runs counter to what Bageant wants you to believe about her. However, using that trope of England having been "destined" for the Abu Ghraib scandal due to her poor socioeconomic standing, Bageant then paints all military personnel as poor, unruly, bloodthirsty, and sociopathic. That certainly doesn't describe my service in Iraq, nor any of the Marines I served with, but of course that's anecdotal evidence. However, that leads me to wonder how many other characters in the book that Bageant may have exaggerated to make his point.
And therein lies my real problem with this book: Though I agree with almost all of Bageant's politics, reading the book, I couldn't help but get a strong sense of the tail wagging the dog. I knew going into the book that Bageant had an agenda, and it was that agenda I wanted to experience, but I couldn't help but feel that he went in with his agenda and wrote the book to that, instead of letting the words and the characters tell it themselves.
Overall, it's a good book and worth reading. I'm glad I did. I now feel like I have a much better understanding of why so many vote against their own self interests.
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BtotheSReviewed in Italy on November 10, 20174.0 out of 5 stars Good book
A very nice and compelling book . If you like this topic you would love this type of books . The author talks about the topic from a liberal point of view
Sheilah FeaReviewed in Canada on August 5, 20165.0 out of 5 stars One has to wish them good luck, I believe they will need it
This book has given me some insight to the American way of thinking and processing their political situation. So interesting for those of us who do not live nor understand why the US is reacting to outside and inside influences they are experiencing. One has to wish them good luck, I believe they will need it.
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WisconsinReviewed in Germany on June 28, 20145.0 out of 5 stars Unterhaltsamer Einblick in die Soziologie der amerikanischen Gesellschaft.
Das Buch wurde auch auf Deutsch veröffentlicht (auch hier bei amazon), ist aber auch in Englisch kurzweilig zu lesen.
Der Autor (Journalist in Ruhestand) beschreibt was von der amerikanischen Gesellschaft / Massenmedien bestritten wird:
es existiert eine sehr ausgeprägte Klassengesellschaft wie man sie nur in England erwarten würde!
Statt des Adels wie in England gibt es hier die Schicht der "Business people" und sonstigen Reichen. Er schreibt aus der Perspektive der "Rednecks" , die Schicht in die er hineingeboren wurde und der er dank eines Stipendiums für das College entfliehen konnte. Er beschreibt seine "Redneck" Kultur liebevoll und nie abfällig, zeigt aber deutlich auf, dass der eklatante Bildungsmangel das Grundübel für Armut und gesundheitliche Probleme ist.
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Amazon CustomerReviewed in France on April 12, 20125.0 out of 5 stars Drôle, finement vu et bien pensé
Mes interrogations sur le comportement des électeurs français qui votent fidèlement pour des gens qui les trompent sytématiquement de façon éhontée, m'ont conduit a m'interesser à cette excellent analyse d'une aliénéation majeure de la plus grande part de l'électorat américain qui n'apprécie que les surenchères ultraconservatrices, tant au plan de l'économie que des "moeurs". Ces américains comme ces francais sont entretenus dans leurs illusions, très différentes les unes des autres, mais il y a un point commun : on aura du mal à s'en sortir dans le monde réel à partir de raisonnements colectifs fondés sur l'illusion/limite délire.
WardReadReviewed in Australia on December 7, 20145.0 out of 5 stars Fascinating, horrifying, brilliant.
This provides a fascinating insight into modern America. As an Australian, there are so many things in American politics and culture that I have always found hard to understand. Jo Bageant's book helps explain some of the conundrums: like why downtrodden poor people vote Republican, and why the idea of having a decent healthcare system that looks after the poor, the elderly and the unemployed is anathema to many Americans. Some reviewers seem to think the writer is 'mean and rude' about the people he describes. The thing is, he's one of them - he comes from the same place, the same origins. You can get away with telling harsh truths about a culture when you belong to it yourself. He is critical but he cares more about them than the self-serving local politicians, developers, army recruiters and money-lenders do.
Oh, and he pretty much predicted the financial meltdown caused by the sub-prime mortgage mess.
Whilst I don't agree with his views on gun laws, the chapter about guns and hunting nevertheless provides a very useful insight into America's gun culture.
I actually read this first a few years ago and have just re-read it because it explains so much. A great read for non-Americans wanting to understand the United States.



