"...And Then There Were Three" was originally released in March of 1978, and it's the first Genesis album following Steve Hackett's departure from the band in 1977.
Now, don't get me wrong here--I'm not denying Hackett's compositional talent or his distinctive fluid guitar style. However, many fans have grossly overstated the importance of Steve Hackett's departure from Genesis. The sound of "And Then There Were Three" is very, very similar to that of the previous album "Wind & Wuthering". Okay, so there aren't any classical guitar spotlights a la "Blood On The Rooftops" on here, but overall, the albums are very sonically similar, and Hackett just wasn't spotlighted enough on the two previous albums, either compositionally or performance-wise, for his loss to be felt all that much.
Tony Banks, Phil Collins, and Mike Rutherford had such an incredible working relationship and chemistry together, as Genesis' 1978-1991 output monumentally demonstrates, that Hackett's leaving the group was undoubtedly for the best. That's not to say things wouldn't have been interesting had Hackett stayed. What seems to be overlooked by most of the fans who accuse Genesis of 'going pop' following Hackett's departure, is that Hackett himself basically 'went pop' in his own right on his 1981 solo album "Cured". All that said, it seems obviously clear that Hackett didn't leave Genesis due to them becoming 'too poppy', he left because he felt suffocated by the other guys and wasn't getting enough of his own compositions in.
In any case, "...And Then There Were Three" finds Genesis brilliantly carrying on without Hackett. Mike Rutherford was a fine guitarist in his own right, and even Banks played guitar (although not on this album if I understand correctly), so filling in the guitar parts was no big deal. And either way, you've still got the dense layers of keyboards from Banks and the tremendous drumming from Collins.
The album starts off with the dynamite "Down And Out". An icy intro gives way to a frenetic rocker with manical Collins drumming on the verses which are in a 10-4 time signature, giving the song an incredibly powerful, hyperactive feel. This is heavy duty progressive rock, folks. The rumor is that the lyrics pertain to Hackett's depature from the band, but it seems to deal more with the band feeling at odds with the 'pop music scene' of the late '70s.
"Undertow" is one of those wistful, lyrically vivid Banks ballads, with his beloved Yamaha CP-70 electric grand piano sound, and a soaring chorus--an absolutely beautiful song. Also beautiful is Rutherford's spiritually-oriented ballad "Snowbound", with Collins singing the verses in that incredibly tender, feathery 'little guy' voice that's characteristic of him for this era (although it would forever vanish by the time of 1981's "Abacab"). The melancholy "Many Too Many" is marred a tad by overly prominent synth-strings, but it's still undeniably moving, with stirringly emotional choruses; it's surprising that it's a Banks solo composition--it sounds very Rutherford-esque. And even if you're burnt out on the feel-good radio hit "Follow You Follow Me", there's no denying it's superbly melodic, and it's neatly enhanced by Rutherford's heavily chorused/ flangered electric guitar.
There's a surprising turn toward Wild West thematics on "Ballad Of Big" and Rutherford's "Deep In The Motherlode", great songs, each in the 4 or 5 minute range, with the usual huge hooks and dynamics that we expect from these guys. The fade on "...Motherlode" makes effective use of backwards reverb on the drums. Banks' longer, 7+ minute "Burning Rope" perhaps drags a tad, but that's splitting hairs--it's darn great, with a terrific intro featuring masterful Collins drum fills. The sprightly "Scenes From A Night's Dream" is a wonderfully catchy pop-rock flavored tune, with terrific ringing guitars and ethereal background vocals.
Banks offers another 6+ minute epic with "The Lady Lies". It's a story-song somewhat along the lines of the previous album's "All In A Mouse's Night". The lyrics, about a femme fatale, are fairly lame and highly obvious, but the music is a different story... The verses are naturally sly and insinuating, and this is contrasted with an absolutely gorgeous chorus, plus there's a spine-tingling mid-section with a great Banks solo spot.
All in all, despite some minor gripes here and there, I can hardly say enough positive things about "...And Then There Were Three". This is the start of an unparalled streak of musical brilliance from the Banks-Collins-Rutherford lineup of Genesis.
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Reviewed in the United States on November 10, 2007
English progressive rockers Genesis released their ninth studio album (and their first as a three piece) titled And Then There Were Three in March of 1978.
The actual number three would prove to be the band's magic number.
With the departures of original lead singer/frontman Peter Gabriel in 1975 and then guitarist Steve Hackett in 1977 respectively, many fans and rock critics wrote the band off. When Hackett left during the mixing of the 1977 double live album Seconds Out, this move left Genesis as a studio trio of Phil Collins handling double duties of drums/percussion and vocals, Tony Banks on keyboards and Mike Rutherford alternating between his already famous 12-string guitar and bass work plus now regular lead 6-string work (his lead playing would get better over time), few could have expected the band to achieve Gold success in the US. However, that's exactly what happened with this album and the band's rebirth as a unlikely more pop sounding act began with this album, which introduced the newly slimmed-down lineup.
The haunting closing love song "Follow You Follow Me" (penned by all three Genesis members) introduced the band to the singles charts here in the US (reaching the US Top 30 in 1978) and caused And Then to go Gold in May of 1978 (eventually Platinum) and the album reached #14 on the Billboard album chart.
Aside from this track, the album had other great tracks like the haunting "Many Too Many" (penned by Banks), the great Rutherford rocking number "Deep in the Motherlode", the epic "Burning Rope" (penned by Banks, which had some great guitar work from Rutherford whom is a great guitarist although not near Steve Hackett caliber) the fast-paced opener "Down and Out" (penned by all three Genesis members) and the funny cowboy number "Ballad of Big" (also penned by all three Genesis members).
The highlight of the album is really the Banks piece "The Lady Lies" which goes for about six minutes and is a great art rock/pop track.
The album's other pieces which is the majestic "Snowbound" (penned by Rutherford), the hauntingly beautiful "Undertow" (penned by Banks), "the whimsical "Scenes from a Night's Dream" (penned by Rutherford/Collins) and Rutherford's torch song "Say It's Alright Joe" are also great tracks though overlooked (when I hear "Say It's Alright Joe" now, I think of when Phil Collins played the song live in 1978 and the UK leg of 1980's Duke Tour dressed as the drunk Sidney with some funny results).
This album paved the way for the decade Genesis would reign, the 80s.
I first bought this album in October of 1997 on cassette and played it constantly. Then I upgraded to the remastered CD a month later (which was sonically superior to the cassette, 8-track and CD and sounded as great as the first vinyl issue).
Now in May of 2007, Rhino/Atlantic re-released the album as a CD and DVD set. The album is remixed on CD in stereo for excellent sound (very reminiscent to what The Who did with their back catalog in the 1990s when they remixed their albums though fewer Who fans complained about that). The new mixes are AMAZING and I hear things in the new mixes that I have not ever heard before (different guitar parts, extra vocal parts). Also, it comes with a DVD which has the album mixed in 5.1 plus the two promo videos for the album (Follow You Follow Me and Many Too Many), new interviews with messieurs Collins, Steve Hackett (who explains why he left the band), Banks and Rutherford and the BBC documentary Three Days With Genesis (which covered the band's 1978 European tour climaxing with their Knebworth performance that year).
Highly recommended!
The actual number three would prove to be the band's magic number.
With the departures of original lead singer/frontman Peter Gabriel in 1975 and then guitarist Steve Hackett in 1977 respectively, many fans and rock critics wrote the band off. When Hackett left during the mixing of the 1977 double live album Seconds Out, this move left Genesis as a studio trio of Phil Collins handling double duties of drums/percussion and vocals, Tony Banks on keyboards and Mike Rutherford alternating between his already famous 12-string guitar and bass work plus now regular lead 6-string work (his lead playing would get better over time), few could have expected the band to achieve Gold success in the US. However, that's exactly what happened with this album and the band's rebirth as a unlikely more pop sounding act began with this album, which introduced the newly slimmed-down lineup.
The haunting closing love song "Follow You Follow Me" (penned by all three Genesis members) introduced the band to the singles charts here in the US (reaching the US Top 30 in 1978) and caused And Then to go Gold in May of 1978 (eventually Platinum) and the album reached #14 on the Billboard album chart.
Aside from this track, the album had other great tracks like the haunting "Many Too Many" (penned by Banks), the great Rutherford rocking number "Deep in the Motherlode", the epic "Burning Rope" (penned by Banks, which had some great guitar work from Rutherford whom is a great guitarist although not near Steve Hackett caliber) the fast-paced opener "Down and Out" (penned by all three Genesis members) and the funny cowboy number "Ballad of Big" (also penned by all three Genesis members).
The highlight of the album is really the Banks piece "The Lady Lies" which goes for about six minutes and is a great art rock/pop track.
The album's other pieces which is the majestic "Snowbound" (penned by Rutherford), the hauntingly beautiful "Undertow" (penned by Banks), "the whimsical "Scenes from a Night's Dream" (penned by Rutherford/Collins) and Rutherford's torch song "Say It's Alright Joe" are also great tracks though overlooked (when I hear "Say It's Alright Joe" now, I think of when Phil Collins played the song live in 1978 and the UK leg of 1980's Duke Tour dressed as the drunk Sidney with some funny results).
This album paved the way for the decade Genesis would reign, the 80s.
I first bought this album in October of 1997 on cassette and played it constantly. Then I upgraded to the remastered CD a month later (which was sonically superior to the cassette, 8-track and CD and sounded as great as the first vinyl issue).
Now in May of 2007, Rhino/Atlantic re-released the album as a CD and DVD set. The album is remixed on CD in stereo for excellent sound (very reminiscent to what The Who did with their back catalog in the 1990s when they remixed their albums though fewer Who fans complained about that). The new mixes are AMAZING and I hear things in the new mixes that I have not ever heard before (different guitar parts, extra vocal parts). Also, it comes with a DVD which has the album mixed in 5.1 plus the two promo videos for the album (Follow You Follow Me and Many Too Many), new interviews with messieurs Collins, Steve Hackett (who explains why he left the band), Banks and Rutherford and the BBC documentary Three Days With Genesis (which covered the band's 1978 European tour climaxing with their Knebworth performance that year).
Highly recommended!
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Dr.Unheil
3.0 out of 5 stars
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Reviewed in Germany on October 25, 2020
Nachdem Peter Gabriel die Band 1975 verließ, stieg Gitarrist Steve Hackett nach dem Album "Wind & Wuthering aus" und Genesis war nur noch ein Trio. Leider verzichteten Collins & Co. darauf sich einen neuen Gitarristen zu beschaffen, was ein Leichtes gewesen wäre, denn welcher Gitarrist wäre nicht gern bei einer so berühmten Band eingestiegen? So aber übernahm Bassist Michael Rutherford auch den Gitarren Part. Rutherford ist ein sehr guter Bassist, aber nur ein durchschnittlicher Gitarrist. So überrascht es dann auch nicht, das die Gitarre ab diesem Album so gut wie keine Rolle mehr spielte, sondern die Keyboards völlig dominierten.
Neben der Gitarre verschwanden auf diesem Album leider auch die Long Tracks, so ist "Burning Rope" mit 7:10 Minuten der mit Abstand längste und auch beste Song des Albums, da er über einen tollen Instrumentalpart verfügt. Gerade die langen Instrumentalparts waren immer ein Leckerbissen, ich erinnere da nur an den fantastischen, ellenlangen Instrumentalpart auf "The Cinema Show".
Aber gut, diese Zeiten sind leider vorbei und zumindest kommerziell brachen für Collins & Co. nun goldene Zeiten
an. Mit "Follow You, Follow Me" hatten sie dann auch den ersten Smash Hit.
Und auch die restlichen Songs des Albums mit Ausnahme von "Burning Rope" und mit Abstrichen "The Lady Lies" sind mehr Pop-denn Rock Songs. Neben diesen Songs gefallen mir nur noch die beiden sehr melancholischen Songs "Undertow", "Many Too Many" und "Snowbound", das wirklich einen sehr schönen Refrain hat.
Fazit: Ab diesem Album sind Genesis nur noch für Pop/Rock Fans interessant, für Fans von komplexer, herausfordernder Rock Musik aber nicht mehr. Abgesehen davon, das ich mit dieser Art von Musik nicht wirklich viel anfangen kann, so räume ich doch gerne ein, dass Collins & Co, für Fans von eingängiger, hochmelodischer
Musik eine gute Wahl sind.
Neben der Gitarre verschwanden auf diesem Album leider auch die Long Tracks, so ist "Burning Rope" mit 7:10 Minuten der mit Abstand längste und auch beste Song des Albums, da er über einen tollen Instrumentalpart verfügt. Gerade die langen Instrumentalparts waren immer ein Leckerbissen, ich erinnere da nur an den fantastischen, ellenlangen Instrumentalpart auf "The Cinema Show".
Aber gut, diese Zeiten sind leider vorbei und zumindest kommerziell brachen für Collins & Co. nun goldene Zeiten
an. Mit "Follow You, Follow Me" hatten sie dann auch den ersten Smash Hit.
Und auch die restlichen Songs des Albums mit Ausnahme von "Burning Rope" und mit Abstrichen "The Lady Lies" sind mehr Pop-denn Rock Songs. Neben diesen Songs gefallen mir nur noch die beiden sehr melancholischen Songs "Undertow", "Many Too Many" und "Snowbound", das wirklich einen sehr schönen Refrain hat.
Fazit: Ab diesem Album sind Genesis nur noch für Pop/Rock Fans interessant, für Fans von komplexer, herausfordernder Rock Musik aber nicht mehr. Abgesehen davon, das ich mit dieser Art von Musik nicht wirklich viel anfangen kann, so räume ich doch gerne ein, dass Collins & Co, für Fans von eingängiger, hochmelodischer
Musik eine gute Wahl sind.
MF
2.0 out of 5 stars
qualità del suono deludente
Reviewed in Italy on September 19, 2022
Non sono i Genesis con Gabriel, ma questo disco mi piace sempre tanto. La qualità della rimasterizzazione 2007, rispetto alla versione precedente, non apporta alcun miglioramento al suono. Se avete la versione precedente ancora "magnetizzata", tenetevela e risparmiate la spesa. Se amate i Genesis, non perdete le versioni 2008 degli album con Gabriel. Anche con un impianto non eccezionale, si riesce ad apprezzare pienamente la struttura musicale delle opere di questi fenomeni.
Bernd Floyd
5.0 out of 5 stars
... und dann wurde der Musikstil anders...!!!
Reviewed in Germany on May 14, 2013
1978 war es als ich mir die LP "...And Then There Were Three..." von Genesis gekauft habe. Die Sorge war damals, ob der Rest der Band ohne Peter Gabriel und Steve Hackett überhaupt etwas Passables zustande bekommen würde. Als sich die LP auf dem Plattenteller drehte, wurden meine Bedenken zunichte gemacht. Die Musik war richtig gut. Allerdings war das Album wesentlich poppiger und radiotauglicher als die Vorgängeralben. Hier wurde wieder einmal eine Wende in der Stilrichtung vogenommen. Ohne Peter Gabriel, der bereits 1975 seinen Ausstand gab, und nunmehr ohne Steve Hackett, verabschiedete sich Genesis meinem Erachten nach endgültig vom Progressive-Rock. Enttäuscht war ich nicht, denn wenn man die nötige Toleranz mitbringt und offen für Veränderungen ist, dann ist ein vorurteilsfreierer Zugang möglich. Phil Collins, Tany Banks und Mike Rutherford hatten den Verlust ihrer kreativen Mitstreiter gut weggesteckt. Das Album habe ich damals rauf und runter gehört. Zu den einzelnen Titeln möchte ich nicht näher eingehen, da jeder Genesis Freund die Songs ohnehin alle kennt. Dennoch möchte ich es nicht unterlassen auf ein paar herausragende Songs des Albums hinzuweisen. Meine Highlights sind: Platz 1: Burning Rope; Platz 2: Snowbound und Platz 3: Undertow. Follow You Follow Me ist halt schon der obengenannte radiotaugliche Hit (Ohrwurm) gewesen. Der Song ist ja auch wirklich gut, nur habe ich ihn schon viel zu oft gehört. Als "...And Then There Were Three..." erstmals als CD zu erhalten war, habe ich sofort zugeschlagen und mir das Teil gekauft. Von Zeit zu Zeit hole ich das Album wieder hervor und kann bei der, im positiven Sinne, seichten Musik wunderbar entspannen. "...And Then There Were Three..." ist ein Album, dass ich nicht missen möchte und das mir sehr gefällt. Deshalb gebe ich den Dreien von Genesis auch gerne 5 Sterne hierfür.
Alessandro D.
5.0 out of 5 stars
I grandi Genesis
Reviewed in Italy on March 16, 2018
I Genesis sono stati il mio primo gruppo musicale preferito. Ai tempi possedevo tutti gli LP o le musicassette. Sono passati diversi anni e purtroppo di questo album possedevo solo la musicassetta originale che col tempo si è rovinata. Consultando Amazon ritrovo And Then There Were Three in versione CD, tra l'altro l'album che ascoltavo di più quando ero poco più che adolescente! Che fare quindi se non comprarlo subito? Consigliatissimo agli amanti e ai nostalgici di questo grande gruppo che ha fatto la storia della musica. Un modo anche per ricordare e rivivere i vecchi tempi passati!
J.J. Tarantino
4.0 out of 5 stars
Da un certo punto di vista, il migliore
Reviewed in Italy on November 14, 2017
Premetto di scrivere da una “Progressive free zone” e questo album dei Genesis, il terzo con Phil Collins alla voce, rappresenta per me il loro “sound” ideale. Le composizioni barocche dei dischi precedenti sono alle spalle e i tre membri superstiti (è il primo album senza lo storico chitarrista Steve Hackett) si buttano in melodie orecchiabili che, in alcuni casi, si stampano subito in testa (come con i due primi pezzi, che sono eccezionali).
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