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Deutschland schafft sich ab: Wie wir unser Land aufs Spiel setzen (German Edition) by [Thilo Sarrazin]

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Thilo Sarrazin

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Thilo Sarrazin beschreibt mit seiner profunden Erfahrung aus Politik und Verwaltung die Folgen, die sich für Deutschlands Zukunft aus der Kombination von Geburtenrückgang, problematischer Zuwanderung und wachsender Unterschicht ergeben. Er will sich nicht damit abfinden, dass Deutschland nicht nur älter und kleiner, sondern auch dümmer und abhängiger von staatlichen Zahlungen wird. Sarrazin sieht genau hin, seine Analyse schont niemanden. Er zeigt ganz konkret, wie wir die Grundlagen unseres Wohlstands untergraben und so den sozialen Frieden und eine stabile Gesellschaft aufs Spiel setzen. Deutschland läuft Gefahr, in einen Alptraum zu schlittern. Dass das so ist, weshalb das so ist und was man dagegen tun kann, davon handelt dieses Buch.

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ASIN ‏ : ‎ B004P1J6X2
Publisher ‏ : ‎ Deutsche Verlags-Anstalt; 23rd edition (September 6, 2010)
Publication date ‏ : ‎ September 6, 2010
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H. Schneider

Society rifts

Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on November 27, 2012

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Germany is now not remotely as divided as the US any more. While American rifts go much too deep for comfort and far exceed healthy levels of conflict in debate, German disagreements between political camps have often been of the not so exciting kind. You could also call that more civilized.

The book that I `review' here caused a heated controversy in Germany. Published in 2010, it achieved bestseller status and divided the population across party lines. Many of its supporters are right-wingers and populists, many of its critics are from the 'pro multi-culti' camp. But the front lines are not so easily demarcated. The book criticizes the current government as well as previous governments. The author was threatened with expulsion from the Social Democratic Party for his opinions. He seems to have a fairly broad backing in the population, though none of the important parties wants to support it.
Angela Merkel put her foot into it when she stated publicly that the book was not helpful, though she admitted that she had not read it.

The author was a top state banker and a state politician (on the `Land' level, as finance senator in Berlin). He is not a diplomatic talent, but a rather dry and meticulous personality, with a certain tendency to unnerve people. The reception of his book has seen a surprising amount of misrepresentation and unfair attacks. It is partly his own fault, as he seems to go fishing for opportunities to provoke. I was prepared to be negative, but found the book better than expected. More rational, more logical, more convincing. Quite improvable though.

What is it about? German population trends and long term international competitiveness. As the title says, the author thinks that the country is 'doing away with itself' by not paying attention to the shrinking of its educated population and the growth of a parasitic underclass, consisting of immigrants as well as the indigenous 'precariat', ie the people who are not willing to play by the normal rules of society, but subsist on welfare and reject education. Immigrants from some parts of the world (mainly Turkey and Near East) are seen as abusing the German welfare state, which is facilitated by failed immigration and welfare policies.
The author rejects negligent tolerance towards political Islam and takes a position of secular enlightenment. He accepts the label `liberal fundamentalist', but is accused by many of being a racist. I can't find fault with his basic position.

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Hoogz

Just confirms what many already know

Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on December 21, 2012

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Solid scientific foundation for his claims.

I love how he opens up with how reporters and politicians reacted to his book with hyperbole after hyperbole on how terrible and wrong it is, when it is evident that most of them never read the book since it wasn't even available yet.

It just shows the sad state of journalism where plagiarism is rampant, actual research rare. It also shows that politicians who in Europe are supposed to know better than regular citizens also known as commoners don't even bother to form their own opinion, but rather just parrot whatever the party and mainstream media is screaming.

It is a dry read.. And if German isn't your native language it can be a bit of a challenge. Why isn't there an English version of this book anyway?

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Alex

Prophetischer Charakter

Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on April 7, 2017

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Abgesehen von Sarrazins wissenschaftlich nicht haltbaren Aussagen bez. der in vielem überholten und problematischen Evolutionstheorie von Darwin, hat sich dieses Buch leider in fast allem als prophetisch bewahrheitet. Vielen Dank für den Mut, die Wahrheit zu sagen, auch wenn Sie dafür sozial hingerichtet wurden.

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James Bridge

So ein gutes Buch!

Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on May 10, 2014

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Thilo Sarrazin pulls no punches....if you are interested in politics and economics, and your German is up to snuff, get this book.

I've seen it in translation, but the title is mis-translated. Should be, "Germany is Destroying Itself--How we are putting ourselves at risk."

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Donald Jacobson

Will Germany exist or fade away blending into the new multiethnic Europe

Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on October 20, 2018

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An important book in view of Germany’s current politics. Excellent writing.

Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on December 26, 2011

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I've been wanting to read this book for a long time. Now I have it on my Kindle, in German, my native language, and enjoy it to no end!

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Informed Consumer

Five Stars

Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on May 27, 2016

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Unfortunately no one listened to the author. Maybe now they will?

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Graham H. Seibert

It needed to be said. Sarrazin was a willing martyr to political correctness.

Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on March 27, 2011

This is a book of statistics put together by a central banker. It is reminiscent of "The Bell Curve," another statistically heavy work which was notable only in that it addressed topics that were conventionally beyond discussion, such as the correlations among race, poverty, and intelligence. As with "The Bell Curve," only a minor part of Sarrazin's book deals with the unmentionable, politically incorrect topics.

Sarrazin devotes most of his effort to talking about ethnic Germans themselves. Each succeeding generation of ethnic Germans is approximately 1/3 smaller than the preceding. They have that many fewer children. Stated another way, the replacement rate for ethnic Germans is something around 1.4, whereas it takes 2.1 (children per woman) to maintain a steady population rate. Extrapolating, and using round numbers, the number of grandchildren is roughly half the number of grandparents. He makes the commonsense observation that this is no way to sustain a country.

This book frequently makes reference to the set of tables in his appendix, showing projections for the number of people within each age cohort for the next half-century, plotting an inexorable decline. He shows that the ratio of retired people to workers will shrink to about 1:1 in that time, and almost untenable proportion. He also computes that Germany's Gross National Product will perforce decline as the number of workers declines, marginal improvements in productivity notwithstanding.

What appears to be his main theme, though certainly not the chief thread in discussion of his work, is educated women's absence from the ranks of motherhood. The more educated a woman, the fewer children she has. And since, of course, education is quite highly correlated with intelligence - a statistic that Sarrazin doesn't cite, but is rather well known - this means that Germany, like the rest of the Western world, is suffering from a dysgenetic secular decline in intelligence. Each generation is not only smaller than the preceding, but it is less intellectually capable as well, simply because the most intellectually capable layers of society are not having kids.

Nobody challenges this thesis. The feminists may not like to hear it, but they do not want to acknowledge any obligation to have children simply for the sake of society. Speaking of society, Sarrazin reminds one of the eugenics advocates, discredited since Hitler's time, who would encourage the best of the Aryan race to reproduce abundantly. No doubt that would be the best thing for the future of the German state, but it is antithetical to the sovereignty of the individual, which is now taken to be the highest good in society. Women, and men, now have an unchallenged right to put their own interests above those of the society that spawned them.

Sarrazin notes that Hitler's Endschluss had terrible consequences for the upper reaches of intelligence within German society. Jews either left or were exterminated. His discussion of Jews is entirely consistent with what one routinely reads in American publications such as Murray's "Human Excellence," and most recently Harpending and Cochran's "The 10,000 Year Explosion." The intelligence of Ashkenazi Jews is about 15 points higher, on average, than the average American or German. This claim is controversial only in Germany, which is so touchy about its historical treatment of the Jews. Gentiles in America accept the statistic rather easily; thanks to the Nazis and the Eastern European pogroms, enough Jews arrived in our country that we can anecdotally validate the claim. The only thing that is novel in Sarrazin's book is that he published it in German, and that in Germany any note on Jewish intelligence might be construed as anti-Semetic.

Sarrazin takes on the wishful thinking that ethnic Germans' unwillingness to reproduce themselves can be offset by immigration, and the fertility of immigrants. This is where he gets into another kind of trouble with political correctness. His discussion of Muslim and African intelligence is consistent with the findings (yes, frequently vilified but never refuted) of American, Canadian and British social scientists such as Arthur Jensen, Philippe Rushton, Richard Lynn and Hans Eysenk. It surprises me that Sarrazin does not credit them in his bibliography. He backs up claims with regard to their criminality and welfare dependency with statistics from the German state. It is interesting to note that the Germans, just like the French and Americans, obfuscate these statistics by using groupings that make it difficult to tease out the relevant conclusions. All three countries' statistical offices do not want to support politically incorrect uses of their data, such as observing inconvenient truths about Muslims or Mexicans.

Sarrazin concludes that the immigrants which Germany is receiving, primarily from black Africa and the Muslim countries, are a net drag on German society. They take more in social benefits than they contribute in wealth. They certainly will never be in a position to compensate for the absence of births among ethnic Germans. He claims that it is high time that Germany abandon its wishful thinking about immigrants and perform a statistical analysis of their actual performance to date. They have a 50 year history with Turks - enough time to draw some reasonable conclusions about the limits on their potential contribution to German society. It is time to do so, he would say.

In summary, the most earth shaking fact about this book is that it was written by a high-ranking German politician, in the face of stifling German political correctness. The observations are well drawn and statistically supported, but nothing is new except their application within the context of Germany. His most original proposal is that university educated women have more children. He is certainly not the first to recognize the need - Carle Zimmerman made the observation for the US in the 1930s - but he is one of the few to make the statement so boldly in the modern age. Bottom line, its greatest claim to being a great book is that it stirs an important discussion.

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UnfinishedSymphony

Kann die Aufregung nicht verstehen

Reviewed in Germany 🇩🇪 on October 25, 2018

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Nach ca. der Hälfte des Buches gelesen kann ich die damalige Aufregung und das Getöse gegen den Autor nicht verstehen. Offenbar haben die lautesten Kritiker das Buch gar nicht gelesen. Der Autor trägt sehr sachlich vor, zumeist auf prüfbarer Faktenbasis. Probleme in der Integration lösen sich nicht, indem man sie schönschweigt. Und was daran falsch ist, Menschen (egal ob mit oder ohne ausländischen Hintergrund!) Anleitung und Anreiz zu geben, mehr Verantwortung für sich selber zu übernehmen, weiß ich auch nicht. Ich finde das Buch empfehlenswert!

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Aenea Jones

Deutschland den Deutschen?

Reviewed in Germany 🇩🇪 on December 11, 2018

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Ich möchte Herrn Sarrazins Thesen nicht widersprechen. Es ist in vielerlei Hinsicht ja auch so, wie er sagt.
Doch frage ich mich, welchen Sinn die Weitergabe einer Kultur hat, wenn man den Wert der Gesellschaft nur durch ihren kapitalistischen Wirtschaftserfolg definiert?
Ja, die bildungsferne Schicht zeugt immer mehr Kinder, doch das muss keine Einbahnstraße sein. Evolutionstechnisch hat sich der Intellekt der Menschheit schon immer vergrößert, Erfindungen und Innovation, zwischen denen früher Jahrhunderte lagen, gibt es heute im Abstand von Jahrzehnten. Es können auch gebildete, erfolgreiche Menschen aus bescheidenen Familienverhältnissen entstehen. Sarrazin geht davon aus, dass sich niemand mehr aus der Unterschicht hocharbeiten kann, doch dies geschieht immer wieder, schon sehr lange. Genauso ist eine bildungsnahe Familie kein Garant für Lebenserfolg, wie man an Herrn Sarrazins Sohn sehen kann, der selbst Hartz IV bezieht.
Anderen Menschen ihre Lebensgestaltung vorzuschreiben, obwohl man als mittlerweile Millionär nicht einmal das eigene Kind aus den Transferleistungen rausholen kann, wirkt doch einigermaßen heuchlerisch und anmaßend.

Dass Hochgebildete/Akademiker/Wissenschaftler wenige bis keine Kinder haben, ist für mich verständlich. Kinder stellen eine große Last und viele Einschränkungen dar, wenn man bereits einen beanspruchenden Beruf hat, wägt man natürlich ab, ob man seine Nerven noch mehr reizen, oder lieber den hohen Lebensstandard einigermaßen stressfrei genießen möchte.
Mit dem Lebensstandard steigen auch die Perspektiven, und selbst ich als "nur" Mittelständler, möchte schon keine Kinder.

Und ehrlich gesagt frage ich mich, was macht die Deutsche Kultur überhaupt aus? Bier, Bratwurst und Fußball? Die typisch ländliche Gehässigkeit? Schaffe schaffe Häusle baue und dann Burn-Out?
Eine Kultur hat bestimmte Grundzüge, aber ist auch wandelbar. Und diesen Wandel muss man ihr zugestehen.
Nein, der Islam gehört nicht zu Deutschland. So weit würde ich nicht gehen. Der Islam gehört in den Islam, aber die krasse Integration, die von Sarrazin gefordert wird, gleicht einer Selbstaufgabe, und ich muss ehrlich sagen, wäre ich ein Migrant, ich wäre dazu nicht bereit.
Und wenn ich mir die Deutschen so ansehe, die sich ja selbst im Urlaub, wo man sich für zwei oder drei Wochen mal anpassen könnte, wie Sau benehmen, glaube ich, die meisten anderen Deutschen wären dazu auch nicht bereit.

Die Länder, die von Massenmigration betroffen sind, wie z.B. Grossbritannien, Frankreich oder Deutschland haben die betreffenden Länder über Jahrhunderte durch den Kolonialismus und in jüngerer Zeit durch die Globalisation ausgebeutet. Die Ressourcen sind gern gesehen, die Menschen von dort nicht. Vielleicht sind die Probleme, die man jetzt hat, einfach der Boomerang, der allmählich zurückkommt.
Ein Deutschland, in dem mehrheitlich Menschen mit einer Gesinnung wie die von Herrn Sarrazin leben, finde ich jedenfalls nicht sehr rettenswert.

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Cato

Lesenswert, sollte Pflichtlektüre für Politiker sein.

Reviewed in Germany 🇩🇪 on September 9, 2018

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Sehr lesenswert. Er ist einfach ein kühler Analytiker, was er schreibt hat Hand und Fuß und was er speziell zur Migration aus muslimischen Ländern schreibt, deckt sich mit meinen Beobachtungen.

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Sven

Deutschland schafft sich ab

Reviewed in Germany 🇩🇪 on January 22, 2019

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Volle 5 Sterne , weil er der einzige ist der kein Blatt vor den Mund nimmt und endlich das ausspricht was viele denken.
Thilo Sarrazin beschreibt mit seiner profunden Erfahrung aus Politik und Verwaltung die Folgen, die sich für Deutschlands Zukunft aus der Kombination von Geburtenrückgang, problematischer Zuwanderung und wachsender Unterschicht ergeben. Er will sich nicht damit abfinden, dass Deutschland nicht nur älter und kleiner, sondern auch dümmer und abhängiger von staatlichen Zahlungen wird. Sarrazin sieht genau hin, seine Analyse schont niemanden. Er zeigt ganz konkret, wie wir die Grundlagen unseres Wohlstands untergraben und so den sozialen Frieden und eine stabile Gesellschaft aufs Spiel setzen. Deutschland läuft Gefahr, in einen Alptraum zu schlittern. Dass das so ist, weshalb das so ist und was man dagegen tun kann, davon handelt dieses Buch.

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Krepel aus Schlesien

Sehr gutes Buch

Reviewed in Germany 🇩🇪 on September 17, 2018

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Sollte im Bundestag zur Pflichtlektüre werden

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