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Dethroning Jesus: Exposing Popular Culture's Quest to Unseat the Biblical Christ Hardcover – November 6, 2007

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New York Times best-selling author Darrell Bock teams with Daniel Wallace to help lay readers separate fact from fiction and help from hype in the recent best-selling Jesus books and television specials.

There is a quest going on. It's the quest to reduce Jesus to a mythic legend or to nothing more than a mere man. Scholars such as Elaine Pagels and James Tabor are using such recent discoveries as the Gospel of Judas and the Gospel of Thomas to argue that the Christ of Christianity is a contrived figure and that a different Christ-one human and not divine-is the "true" Christ.

In his trademark easy-to-understand style Darrell Bock takes on these attempts to redefine Jesus in a convincing, winsome way that will help readers understand that the orthodox understanding of Christ and his divinity is as trustworthy and sure as it ever was. Joining Bock for the first time is fellow scholar Daniel Wallace.

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Ph.D.s and writers Bock (Jesus According to Scripture) and Wallace (author of one of the most widely used textbooks on New Testament Greek grammar) team up to address what they refer to as Jesusanity—the trend to dethrone Jesus and view him as a wise and revered leader rather than as the Christ of Christianity. They examine the ideas of numerous scholars and theorists, including Bart Ehrman, Elaine Pagels, Marcus Borg and James Tabor. With precision and care drawn from their years of research, they study six key claims—including the idea that the original New Testament manuscripts were corrupted beyond recovery, that Jesus' message was primarily political, that new gospels like Thomas and Judas throw traditional views of Jesus into doubt and that Jesus' tomb has been discovered. What emerges is an appreciation for the rigors of biblical study and a wealth of support for traditional views of Jesus. The writing is at times unclear and difficult, and could not compete on its own with the books Bock and Wallace critique. However, this overview provides a concise and well-researched evangelical Christian response to numerous popular theories, and conservative readers will be especially likely to welcome it. (Nov. 6)
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Daniel B. Wallace (1952-) is professor of New Testament Studies at Dallas Seminary and the Executive Director of the Center for the Study of New Testament Manuscripts (www.csntm.org). He has taught New Testament Greek for over thirty years. His interests are New Testament Greek grammar, New Testament textual criticism, exegesis, biblical theology, and early church history. CSNTM posts hundreds of thousands of images of handwritten Greek New Testament manuscripts on its site, most of which have been digitized by CSNTM with state-of-the-art digital equipment.
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Dethrones Bart Ehrman

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I found these authors from learning about Bart Ehrman and his debates. Certainly a formidable scholar and author.
However in my opinion I think these authors provide a more illuminating understanding of the early New Testament origins and it’s meaning and it’s controversies
In my opinion they make clear that the former author (B.E) has significant biases that he isn’t entirely honest about in his writings
As somebody who has read quite a bit about gnostic theology in the past and been very fascinated by it, This is the first time I truly understood why that theology doesn’t fit into a Christianity but rather probably use more of a Greek Plato type theology
It makes sense to me that Jesus would not have agreed with that type of theology.

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A Tale of Two Jesus Stories

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In the last few decades, and especially in the last few years, books about Jesus aimed at popular audiences have become quite common. The arguments presented vary, but there is a general picture that emerges. Whereas classical Christianity tells of a Jesus who as a divine Redeemer heals a broken relationship between God and man, who as Prophet, Priest, and King is properly an object of worship, what the authors call "Jesusanity" is the modern portrait that has a high regard for Jesus as a teacher who points the way to God, or more properly speaking, a way to God. He would belong in a religious hall of fame but he is not unique when compared to other religious leaders.

The authors engage six specific claims which appear in the various books on Jesusanity. Any of these claims, if true, would radically alter our understanding of not only Jesus, but also of God and mankind, of Creator and creation, of sin and forgiveness. I am going to focus on the first of the six claims, because if it turns out to be true, it is open season on traditional Christianity and there is no effective way to counter any of the other assertions brought forward in the spirit of Jesusanity.

The first claim is not really a new one, that the text of the New Testament as we have it now has so many mistakes and deliberate changes in it that we have no way of recovering what the original text said. What is new is that it is coming from the pen of a bona fide textual scholar, Bart Ehrman, who has written a huge bestseller, "Misquoting Jesus" in which this is his main thesis. And yet the point is made less by direct argument than by inference and misleading statements. Indeed, according to the authors, apart from these statements much of the book is an "extremely helpful introduction to the field of New Testament textual criticism."

He tells us that there are actually about 400,000 textual variants in the New Testament, and since there are around 138,000 words, this makes for three variants for every single word in the New Testament. But he is being very misleading in his use of numbers. To start with, 99% of all variants do not impact the meaning of the text: variations in spelling and word order make up the vast bulk of the variations. So actually we're talking about 4,000 meaningful variants, which translates to one every three pages.

Although this looks a lot better, the meaningfulness of the numbers still need to be clarified. It is important to realize that the more manuscripts we have, the more textual variants there are. So if we had only one manuscript, there would be zero textual variants, but we would also have no confidence that it would reflect what was originally written. There are 5700+ catalogued Greek manuscripts of the New Testament, the average of which is 200 pages long. That means there are approximately 1.2 million pages of handwritten text. 4,000 meaningful variants in 1.2 million pages of text - now you start to get the meaning of the real sense of the numbers. This actually reflects an amazingly accurate history of transmission.

Ehrman says "we don't even have copies of the copies of the originals, or copies of the copies of the copies of the originals." This makes it sound like the text was transmitted in a manner similar to the "telephone game", a party game in which a message is whispered from person to person in a line, in order to see how garbled it gets at the end. But that is not how the New Testament was transmitted. Not only are written documents much less liable to corruption than things whispered in the ear, but more than a single line of transmission was involved. New Testament books were transmitted in multiple streams because they were sent to multiple locations. Mistakes in one stream can often be detected and corrected by comparison to other streams.

Ehrman appears to be more forthcoming in some places and less in others about the true state of textual variants. The authors observe that "one almost gets the sense that it is the honest scholar in Ehrman who admits that the meaningful textual problems are neither as meaningful nor as plentiful as he would want us to think, and the theological liberal in Ehrman who keeps such admissions to a minimum" (p. 60). The bottom line is that less than one percent of the variants are really significant, but even then never to the degree that a doctrine hangs in the balance. Whatever caused Ehrman to lose his faith, then, it was not the discipline of New Testament textual criticism. An interesting observation is that the man he considers his mentor, indeed, the man to whom he dedicated the book Misquoting Jesus, Bruce Metzger, has come to the opposite conclusion, seeing his faith strengthened by a lifetime of study in this area.

Bart Ehrman was twice a guest on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart. I'm pretty sure that Darrell Bock and Daniel Wallace, the two authors of this book, never will be. Modern portrayals of Jesus are much more attractive to the non-Christian world than what has traditionally been the message for two thousand years. For it allows mankind to reshape God and Jesus into whatever image is pleasing to him. Gone is any accountability of creature to Creator, and also any ability of the Creator to communicate to his creatures what he expects of them. Man becomes autonomous and sin, judgement, and the need for repentance and the Cross are done away with. Jesusanity is popular because it is easier, but if it is allowed to go unchallenged, it is absolutely fatal to biblical Christianity. Bock and Wallace have done a thorough job of meeting these claims head on and showing that they do not stand up under scrutiny.

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Christianity versus Jesusanity

Reviewed in the United States on August 1, 2010

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Darrell Bock PhD, is a Research Professor; Daniel B. Wallace PhD, is a Professor of New Testament Studies. Their collaboration, "Dethroning Jesus", sets out a vigorous defense of Christianity against a popular trend that they dub "Jesusanity". "Christianity involves the claim that Jesus was anointed by God to represent both God and Humanity in the restoration of a broken relationship existing between the Creator and his creation. In this version of the story, Jesus serves as a unique bridge between God and humanity, between heaven and earth." By contrast they coin the term "Jesusanity", to mean "the alternative story about Jesus. Here the center of the story is still Jesus, but Jesus as either a prophet or a teacher of religious wisdom. In Jesusanity, Jesus remains very much Jesus of Nazareth."

The authors quickly associate the reader with recent portraits of the alternative Jesus: E.P.Sanders's "eschatological" Jesus; Elisabeth Schusser's "egalitarian, antipatriarchial" Jesus; Richard Horsely's "Elijah-like" Jesus; Jesus Seminar authors Marcus Borg and John Dominic Crossan's respective "spiritual" and "anti-establishment" Jesuses. They examine in four groups (historical skepticism, new information, cultural factors, and innate desires to understand the spiritual) a total of twelve factors that they consider have contributed to the phenomenon of Jesusanity. The twelfth of these, "brittle fundamentalism" resonated with me: "many who write most skeptically about Christianity today started out in a conservative, Bible-believing environment ... they saw an often huge inconsistency between what the Bible taught, especially in areas tied to social justice and materialism, and what their conservative churches taught."

The "meat" of the book is the presentation and refutation of six claims that represent a large part of skepticism about Jesus today: (1) that the NT text has been too badly corrupted; (2) that "secret" gospels show an "early" alternative Jesus; (3) the differences revealed in the "Gospel of Thomas"; (4) that Jesus' message was fundamentally political and social; (5) that Paul's Jesus was an alternative to the gospel version; and (6) that Jesus' tomb had been found. Although each discussion is relatively short, I found that it properly represented the respective claim and gave a very satisfactory explanation as to why the claim should be rejected. There are other books that I have read on this subject by authors such as Ben Witherington, Craig Evans, Philip Jenkins, Ed Komoszewski, and N.T. Wright. All of these authors are convincing in their support for the Christ of Christianity. Bock and Wallace's book is very readable and of all of these, might give a skeptic the most room for reflection.

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Reviewed in the United States on February 14, 2009

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This book is right on the money. The authors do a fantastic job in explaining the difference between Christianity & Jesusanity... genuine belief in the deity of Christ - the Son of God who came incarnate to fulfill the Law & Prophets and redeem humanity via his sinless life, the Cross, and Resurrection... and the heterodoxy view of Jesus that he was merely a man who taught well and left us with a moral example. If you haven't read 'Mere Christianity' by C.S. Lewis - you should get a copy of that along with this. Lewis' arguments against what Bock calls Jesusanity are clearer than anything I've ever read elsewhere. ***** GREAT BOOK *****

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